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Omaha Steve

(99,746 posts)
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 08:50 PM Dec 2012

Police: Hero instructor fought son in arrow attack

Source: AP-Excite

By MEAD GRUVER

CASPER, Wyo. (AP) - A Wyoming community college instructor killed in a grisly classroom murder-suicide was hailed as a hero Saturday, with police saying he gave his students time to flee by distracting and fighting off his son after the younger man barged into his computer science class and shot him in the head with a high-powered bow and arrow.

The arrow severely wounded James Krumm, 56, but he managed to wrestle with son Christopher Krumm, 25, of Vernon, Conn., while students escaped the Casper College classroom Friday.

Christopher Krumm had just stabbed to death his father's live-in girlfriend at the couple's home two miles away.

When police arrived at the classroom after the bow-and-arrow attack, they found Christopher Krumm bleeding from self-inflicted knife wounds and taking his last breaths.

FULL story at link.


Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20121202/DA2TA6801.html





Casper Police Chief Chris Walsh answers questions Saturday, Dec. 1, 2012 in Casper, Wyo. during a press conference detailing Friday's killings at Casper College and Hawthorne Avenue. Walsh identified the victims as Jim Krumm, 56, and his girlfriend Heidi Arnold, 42, both of whom were professors at Casper College. The assailant was identified as Chris Krumm, 25, who was the son of Jim Krumm. Police say Chris Krumm stabbed Arnold to death outside her home on Hawthorne Avenue, then killed his father and himself inside a college classroom where students were present. (Alan Rogers, Star-Tribune) MANDATORY CREDIT; TRIB.COM

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Police: Hero instructor fought son in arrow attack (Original Post) Omaha Steve Dec 2012 OP
Guns don't kill people. NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #1
What on earth does Fox News have to do with this tragedy? Was virgogal Dec 2012 #2
Ahem.... Do you realize you are defending a cold-blooded killer? ReRe Dec 2012 #3
Huh? virgogal Dec 2012 #4
Nobody was defending the killer. Chef Eric Dec 2012 #12
It's closer to jamtoday Dec 2012 #7
Insert blame tied to favorite blame-worthy phenomena here: NBachers Dec 2012 #5
Fucking Belgians....(nt) Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #6
and their stupid waffles. octothorpe Dec 2012 #14
They think they're so-o-o-o much better. Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #16
From the article: Le Taz Hot Dec 2012 #8
What if she had still been alive? Speed8098 Dec 2012 #11
I'm sure that police were already there and there was no chance to save her life fishwax Dec 2012 #19
I cannot imagine seeing a neighbor--or anyone--lying in the TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #13
me either, but maybe the police bluemarkers Dec 2012 #15
Yes, I suppose that the body was still there due to the investigation. TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #17
I'd like to think bluemarkers Dec 2012 #21
Probably the body was still in the street but investigators were already there fishwax Dec 2012 #18
WTF? obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #20
911 had been called and the police were almost certainly already there fishwax Dec 2012 #22
why didn't the police prevent this crime from happening? trouble.smith Dec 2012 #9
How? Hekate Dec 2012 #10
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. Guns don't kill people.
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 08:59 PM
Dec 2012

Crazy-ass people on an over-crowded planet being fed a diet of FoxNews and Pharmaceuticals kill people.

Count on it.

 

virgogal

(10,178 posts)
2. What on earth does Fox News have to do with this tragedy? Was
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 09:56 PM
Dec 2012

the young man on drugs?

I missed that piece of information.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
3. Ahem.... Do you realize you are defending a cold-blooded killer?
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:35 PM
Dec 2012

Are you a defense lawyer? Have you noticed the fractured society we live in these days? Yes, fractured by such things as Fox News. Fox News listeners who are going absolutely nutso-violent-crazy over PO winning reelection? Can't anyone have an opinion on here anymore? I imagine it's just an educated guess, for Pete's sake. Relax, will 'ya? And think.

jamtoday

(110 posts)
7. It's closer to
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 04:17 AM
Dec 2012

'We Need To Talk About Kevin' Lionel Shriver's novel of a school massacre carried out with a bow and arrow, only luckily this man was stopped.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
8. From the article:
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 04:46 AM
Dec 2012

Heather Meier, who lives across the street, said she came home from work Friday afternoon after picking up her 7-year-old daughter from school, and the two saw Arnold's body still lying in the street.

"As soon as we got home, we just shut the curtains," she said. "You know, tried to just watch some TV, have some snacks, mind our own business."

I mean, What if she had still been alive?

Speed8098

(1,655 posts)
11. What if she had still been alive?
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 09:17 AM
Dec 2012

You and I couldn't agree more?

I seriously don't understand how someone could be so callous. She sees someone lying in the street by her house, she decides not to check to see if she can be of any assistance or POSSIBLY SAVE SOMEONE'S LIFE.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME????

What a great example she set for her 7 year old daughter. Move along now, nothing to see here.

I see Dick Cheney isn't the only "DICK" to live in Casper, Wyoming.




fishwax

(29,149 posts)
19. I'm sure that police were already there and there was no chance to save her life
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 05:57 PM
Dec 2012

The story said she came home in the afternoon, and this all took place in the morning.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
13. I cannot imagine seeing a neighbor--or anyone--lying in the
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 11:46 AM
Dec 2012

street and saying "Oh well, let's just go in and watch some TV." WTF?? What the hell kind of place is Casper, WY?

bluemarkers

(536 posts)
15. me either, but maybe the police
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:38 PM
Dec 2012

Reporting at it's finest (not) - leaving out a few things. It's a vague timeline, but elementary school lets out here around 3 - 4 (it varies). College classes are generally done my then. My first thought was that police had not yet draped off the area if they were still investigating.

otoh, if I saw a bloody body in a gutter and had my 7 year old, what would I do? If there were no police I'd be afraid the killer was still out there. Yep, I'd probably be staying the car and speed off. Once safe then call the police. (me=chicken)

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
18. Probably the body was still in the street but investigators were already there
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 05:56 PM
Dec 2012

I don't think it's the case that they came home, saw a strange body in the street, and went inside to watch TV. It said that they came home in the afternoon, and this story broke in the morning of the day in question. (I know some people associated with the college, and I saw facebook posts and news stories about it timestamped by 10 am Friday morning.)

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
22. 911 had been called and the police were almost certainly already there
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 11:37 PM
Dec 2012

It sounds odd in the article, but I'm betting that when she came home to see the body still lying there, it was lying there as part of the crime scene, not simply lying there with nobody knowing what had happened or if she was still alive. The article says she came home in the afternoon, by which time the attack at the college was already news.

Hekate

(90,838 posts)
10. How?
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 05:38 AM
Dec 2012

Seriously -- there seems to have been nothing for the police to have intervened on before this attack.

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