Report: Pollard collapses in prison, hospitalized
Source: YNet
The Committee to Free Jonathan Pollard reported Saturday that he collapsed in prison over the weekend and had to be hospitalized.
Pollard, 58, who is serving a life sentence for espionage, has reportedly been experiencing pain for several weeks, but it is still unknown whether it was the cause for his hospitalization.
Read more: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4314064,00.html
PB
Botany
(70,589 posts)F*** him. And F*** the Israelis who recruited and paid him too.
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Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)This is detailed account of his treachery, including his cowardly Israeli paymasters:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070323120858/http://cryptome.sabotage.org/traitor.htm
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marble falls
(57,275 posts)like all traitors should, pansy paymasters or not.
marble falls
(57,275 posts)USMCMustang
(109 posts)The principle that he turned over info that was supposed to have been turned over by agreement. The US (Weinburger hated Jews like some posters here). Remember the Beirut bombing.
cpwm17
(3,829 posts)He took some of the most important secrets of the US, some of which were only of value to the Soviets. This is a million times more serious than what Bradley Manning took the same Bradley Manning that you strongly condemn.
Israel appears to have traded the documents to the Soviets.
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Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)Sick. More sick from you.
PB
Is right.
naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)The government says he turned over far more.
Nika
(546 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)being thrown out for his bizarre behavior.
You are aware that he has renounced his US citizenship, right?
marble falls
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jberryhill
(62,444 posts)And that has nothing to do with religion. He was paid by a foreign government to provide them with classified information from the inside, and should have been made a harsher example.
Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)...the entire 10-volume RAISIN manual, alone, would generally be cause enough for execution.
Serious question: If you're familiar with the case, etc., do you think that's hyperbole?
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2naSalit
(86,804 posts)Last edited Sun Dec 2, 2012, 03:40 AM - Edit history (1)
that this could be a ruse is to understand who is campaigning for his release.
On edit: Wow, I guess I shouldn't try to type in a poorly lit room!
Who campaigned to keep him locked up? When you have an agreement to provide info, you should provide it. I am not saying the US should kiss Israeli ass, but facts are facts.
The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)can all die in prison. It has nothing to do with their religion, it has to do with them being traitors.
1ProudAtheist
(346 posts)Didn't do 1/10th of the damage to this country that The Village Idiot and his National Dick did. When you start talking about people who should die in prison, those 2 and several of their band of coherts are on the absolute top of that list.
I am not trying to in any way deminish the severity of the treasonous acts of those that you mentioned, but merely to point out that while some have been tried and convicted, others have gotten off scott free. There is no sense of equal justice in matters of National disgraces.
Sorry for the rant, but I get all steamed up when I think of those pukes walking the streets of America as if they did nothing illegal, immoral, or just plain wrong.
MFuentes
(6 posts)They should. But the hatred toward Pollard raises questions. You are the only one who brought up the others.
atreides1
(16,093 posts)In order to hate a person you have to know that person, I don't know any of these men...nor do I care to. I hate what they did
I think the problem is that in some circles Mr. Pollard is considered to be some kind of hero, and those people are willing to look past his treason because of the fact that he's Jewish and they actually believe that he did what he did purely for nobel reasons!
Pollard was paid to provide information to a foreign government, just like Walker, Hansen, and Ames were...and just like those men he will have to remain in prison for the rest of his life...for the crime he committed.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)cpwm17
(3,829 posts)for the country that receives more support than any other in US history: Israel. This is consistent with the US/Israel relationship, so Americans have a right to hold Pollard and Israel in contempt.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Notice that there is no such ongoing campaign for the others.
That's what you're registering.
Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
- Ralph Waldo Emerson
The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)and nobody needs to bring them up to be fair to Pollard. Pollard is getting the same treatment as other traitor spies. I see a lot of defensiveness on behalf of Pollard in this thread. That is disgusting. Pollard is a traitor who should serve his full term. The people who think Pollard is being pilloried or treated badly in this thread should have their own loyalties examined. Pollard gets no slack from me. He is a traitor.
secondvariety
(1,245 posts)he sold his country out for money.
TomClash
(11,344 posts)He SOLD (no principle here) the manual for the entire U.S. electronic surveillance network to Israel. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Why is this particular news?
Is it because we're still supposed to release this traitor at some point for some reason?
Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)byeya
(2,842 posts)allows him to go to Israel, then that president will greatly offend the intelligence agencies.
This was a number of years ago when I was told this twice without even thinking of bringing up the topic(of which I know little) but these two agents, instructors at the time, brought it up on their own.
Apparently the intel agencies were(are?) upset at the near free hand Mossad has been given within our borders.
Who knows? Why would they tell members of a LE refresher class this at break time unless they were exercised about it?
Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)...from The New Yorker, you'll have a pretty good idea why the agents brought it up on their own:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070323120858/http://cryptome.sabotage.org/traitor.htm
It's a length but incredibly informative piece on the matter.
And, for after you've read it: How incredibly fucked is that? It's amazing that just one person could fuck over America that hard.
PB
naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)If you believe in the death penalty (which I don't).
Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)...some reason thought it might've been hyperbole. But, really, thinking on it today I think it's pretty open and shut for just the things which the public knows he did. Of course, as Hersh's sources intone, one of the reasons they may have steered things away from execution is that they believe there was more than one mole in the intelligence infrastructure and possibly hoped by keeping him alive they could get him to eventually reveal other traitors.
PB
Drum
(9,198 posts)Looking fwd to reading this, I admire Hersh's work.
byeya
(2,842 posts)he writes. Had not seen this piece before.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Here is the real deal, Jonathan Pollard did actually endanger US Personnel while in the field and National Security.