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BumRushDaShow

(138,319 posts)
Fri Jun 14, 2024, 04:08 PM Jun 2024

Schumer calls for bill to ban bump stocks after Supreme Court ruling

Source: The Hill

06/14/24 12:33 PM ET


Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) on Friday condemned a 6-3 Supreme Court ruling overturning the Trump-era ban on bump stocks, which allow semi-automatic guns to fire like machine guns, and called on Congress to pass legislation to counter the decision.

“The far-right Supreme Court continues their unprecedented assault on public safety by reversing the commonsense guidance issued in 2018 by the ATF. Bump stocks have played a devastating role in many of the horrific mass shootings in our country, but sadly it’s no surprise to see the Supreme Court roll back this necessary public safety rule as they push their out of touch extreme agenda. They’re even further to the right of Donald Trump,” Schumer said in a statement responding to the ruling.

“As I warned the Trump administration at the time, the only way to permanently close this loophole is through legislation. Senate Democrats are ready to pass legislation to ban bump stocks but we will need votes from Senate Republicans,” he said.

The Trump administration banned bump stocks through executive action after the 2017 mass shooting at the Route 91 Harvest music festival in Las Vegas, where a shooter used the device and killed nearly 60 people, making it the deadliest shooting in U.S. history.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4722526-chuck-schumer-bump-stocks-ban-supreme-court-ruling/mlite/

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Schumer calls for bill to ban bump stocks after Supreme Court ruling (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 OP
Good campaign issue. Frasier Balzov Jun 2024 #1
It's the semi-autos OneCrazyDiamond Jun 2024 #2
No chance of that FBaggins Jun 2024 #5
Yes, the problem is rapid fire, along with projectile kinetic energy. CaptainTruth Jun 2024 #15
There are some semiautomatic revolvers - but most are not FBaggins Jun 2024 #16
Thanks for the kind clarification, I appreciate it. I'm not an expert on these details. CaptainTruth Jun 2024 #24
You're thinking of a double action revolver, still made today. yagotme Jun 2024 #17
Virtually all handguns sold today are semi-auto NickB79 Jun 2024 #28
The Supreme Court is out of fucking control BootinUp Jun 2024 #3
Petty revenge versus "liberals" who criticize their grossly unethical behavior? Trust_Reality Jun 2024 #9
This latest, has stunned me, even for them. Nt BootinUp Jun 2024 #19
Automatic weapons and bump stocks are military weapons and should only be used by "a well regulated militia " Deuxcents Jun 2024 #4
I don't see why this is so hard for ANY court to understand! Bayard Jun 2024 #10
Totally agree Deuxcents Jun 2024 #11
The court did not make a 2A based ruling Zeitghost Jun 2024 #27
Bump stocks are used by NO military in the world. nt yagotme Jun 2024 #18
The Supreme Court did not say that bumpstocks were legal... brooklynite Jun 2024 #26
Agree republianmushroom Jun 2024 #6
"the only way to permanently close this loophole is through legislation" Jansen Jun 2024 #7
Total ban on "assault" style weapons. Payment for turning in, go after those who don't. Enough. No need. Evolve Dammit Jun 2024 #8
Other countries have successfully done it but there is no will with our elected to do it.. Deuxcents Jun 2024 #12
"too little courage" is right. Cowards. Evolve Dammit Jun 2024 #13
Not if Dems control the trifecta onetexan Jun 2024 #20
It's time that our side admits that trying to write laws regarding guns are going to be doomed to failure. cstanleytech Jun 2024 #14
"The time has come instead to hammer the Republicans over every death of a grade schooler" BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 #21
I've a better idea. Icanthinkformyself Jun 2024 #22
Yes! Martin68 Jun 2024 #23
That would be the way to do it Kaleva Jun 2024 #25

FBaggins

(27,385 posts)
5. No chance of that
Fri Jun 14, 2024, 04:38 PM
Jun 2024

Most firearms are semiautomatic these days.

Such a ban would never get past the courts

CaptainTruth

(7,099 posts)
15. Yes, the problem is rapid fire, along with projectile kinetic energy.
Fri Jun 14, 2024, 10:07 PM
Jun 2024

I'm no expert, but the old 6-shot revolvers used 100+ years ago were semiautomatic, because they fired a shot with each pull of the trigger, were they not?

And correct me if I'm wrong but I believe every firearm used by law enforcement today is semiautomatic. Imagine trying to ban all of them. It's simply not realistic & not helpful to finding practical ways to reduce gun violence & deaths.

FBaggins

(27,385 posts)
16. There are some semiautomatic revolvers - but most are not
Fri Jun 14, 2024, 10:19 PM
Jun 2024

The term is often oversimplified to be “fires each time you pull the trigger” - but the “auto” part actually refers to whether the firing of one round automatically chambers the next round and (for fully auto) whether it continues to fire.

With most revolvers, the trigger pull both rotates the cylinder and fires the round.

yagotme

(3,810 posts)
17. You're thinking of a double action revolver, still made today.
Sat Jun 15, 2024, 12:06 AM
Jun 2024

Not considered a semi auto, but the definition of "one pull, one shot" applies.

NickB79

(19,489 posts)
28. Virtually all handguns sold today are semi-auto
Mon Jun 17, 2024, 05:20 PM
Jun 2024

And every poll I've seen that asks specifically about banning handguns (not assault rifles) shows very little support for such a thing, something like 70/30 against such a ban, on average.

Even most liberals approve of owning handguns for self defense, despite the fact that the vast majority of gun violence in this nation is due to handguns.

Trust_Reality

(1,815 posts)
9. Petty revenge versus "liberals" who criticize their grossly unethical behavior?
Fri Jun 14, 2024, 05:27 PM
Jun 2024

Thomas and Alito are so petty it is absolutely unbelievable. And the other four conservatives are apparently agreeable with that kind of behavior.

Their primary tactic is to sabotage common sense.

Deuxcents

(18,656 posts)
4. Automatic weapons and bump stocks are military weapons and should only be used by "a well regulated militia "
Fri Jun 14, 2024, 04:28 PM
Jun 2024

As the Constitution requires. The SC is out of touch with reality, common sense and the will of the people. If they spent more time with the public instead of their soirées with billionaires having brandy and cigars, they could make better decisions.

Bayard

(23,636 posts)
10. I don't see why this is so hard for ANY court to understand!
Fri Jun 14, 2024, 05:31 PM
Jun 2024

The 2nd Amendment has been perverted into an unrecognizable curse upon the land.

Zeitghost

(4,249 posts)
27. The court did not make a 2A based ruling
Mon Jun 17, 2024, 01:29 PM
Jun 2024

They never ruled we have a right to own bump stocks, they ruled Congress had not banned them, which was the correct ruling as Congress did not ban them or include language that would include them in machine gun regulations.

Schumer is taking the proper course of action and introducing new legislatin that would solve that problem.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
26. The Supreme Court did not say that bumpstocks were legal...
Mon Jun 17, 2024, 10:46 AM
Jun 2024

....it was a technical ruling that said they weren't illegal unless Congress passed a law that said so (IOW - the ATF couldn't arbitrarily rule them illegal). Hence Schumer's proposed legislation.

Jansen

(108 posts)
7. "the only way to permanently close this loophole is through legislation"
Fri Jun 14, 2024, 04:50 PM
Jun 2024

“As I warned the Trump administration at the time, the only way to permanently close this loophole is through legislation. Senate Democrats are ready to pass legislation to ban bump stocks but we will need votes from Senate Republicans,”

-Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.)

Deuxcents

(18,656 posts)
12. Other countries have successfully done it but there is no will with our elected to do it..
Fri Jun 14, 2024, 05:36 PM
Jun 2024

The public wants it but too much money at stake and too little courage here.

onetexan

(13,627 posts)
20. Not if Dems control the trifecta
Sat Jun 15, 2024, 04:29 AM
Jun 2024

And why we need to win not just the House but keep control of the Senate so POTUS Biden can pass this legislation, reinstate Roe & the Voting Rights Act, among others.

cstanleytech

(26,828 posts)
14. It's time that our side admits that trying to write laws regarding guns are going to be doomed to failure.
Fri Jun 14, 2024, 09:39 PM
Jun 2024

Even if by some miracle we saw a 6/3 majority liberal court another one in the in the future like we have now can overturn a ruling about a law like they did with abortion.
The time has come instead to hammer the Republicans over every death of a grade schooler and put them on the defensive both at the Federal and State level and make it so they own every death and hopefully regain enough power to get a new Amendment that gives the government some clear ability to regulate guns in a way that the Court can go fuck themselves.

BumRushDaShow

(138,319 posts)
21. "The time has come instead to hammer the Republicans over every death of a grade schooler"
Sat Jun 15, 2024, 06:13 AM
Jun 2024

That has been done to the point that the survivors of the mass shooting in the school that was being torn down yesterday (Marjory Stoneman Douglas HS in Parkland), who are now high school graduates AND the survivors of the earlier Sandy Hook massacre (also now high school graduates), intensively LOBBIED Congress (Republicans) and participated in multiple Congressional hearings, and held dozens and dozens of marches and rallies nationwide, for all those years after these (and other) mass shooting events happened.

Some dribs and drabs of laws were put in place over that time, but you can't EVER say that the "hammering" somehow didn't happen.

The only thing left is to literally show images of the bloody aftermath of a mass shooting of a child, which the families have yet to consent to allowing.

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