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Mr. Sparkle

(2,933 posts)
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 02:32 PM Dec 2012

'New York Post' criticised over subway death front page

Source: DigitalSpy

Rupert Murdoch's New York Post US tabloid has been criticised for posting a shocking picture of a man just about to die after being pushed onto the subway tracks in New York City.

The front page of today's edition of the paper depicts Ki Suk Han, 58, desperately attempting to get back onto the platform as a train approaches.



He had been pushed onto the tracks by a crazed man on the Times Square subway platform after trying to protect fellow passengers from being attacked.

Onlookers screamed, shouted and waved their hands to try and get the downtown Q train to stop, but it was too late.

But the paper's decision to run the shocking image on its front page has led to an outcry on Twitter.

Guardian journalist Ian Prior (‏@ianprior) tweeted: "Sickening rubber-necking front page from the New York Post. Imagine how this man's family feels."

Howard Stern producer Lee Gerowitz added: "The @nypost and the employee who made the call to put the man about to die from a train on its cover are pieces of trash. Despicable."

Sports Illustrated reporter Richard Deitsch (‏@richarddeitsch), was more contemplative, tweeting: "Chilling New York Post front page today. Would you have run it?"




Read more: http://www.digitalspy.ie/media/news/a442920/new-york-post-criticised-over-subway-death-front-page.html

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'New York Post' criticised over subway death front page (Original Post) Mr. Sparkle Dec 2012 OP
When Howard Stern's producer thinks you're despicable trash... TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #1
No kidding BainsBane Dec 2012 #3
They got what they wanted...PUBLICITY. Anything for a buck. Fck wads!! jonesgirl Dec 2012 #2
Except the NYP doesn't need the publicity. WinkyDink Dec 2012 #7
It's the Post NV Whino Dec 2012 #4
Is anyone else believing... skypilot Dec 2012 #5
Have you been in the NYC subway? There is NO WAY the man could've been helped up. WinkyDink Dec 2012 #8
I saw the photo with the man trying to climb up. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2012 #10
Yes, actually I have... skypilot Dec 2012 #11
I'm with you theHandpuppet Dec 2012 #12
I still disagree. In any case, the train was RIGHT THERE. WinkyDink Dec 2012 #13
Right where? skypilot Dec 2012 #14
I helped a guy up once... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #16
I suspect... skypilot Dec 2012 #17
The thing I remember about it was... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #23
I see. skypilot Dec 2012 #24
I know the 'El', I'm from Philly originally... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #28
no - he is a coward Skittles Dec 2012 #26
I think it's fight or flight. People might be afraid they'd get pushed next. mucifer Dec 2012 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Bad_Ronald Dec 2012 #6
Compared to the Falling Man of 9-11? I think THAT was pretty awful to print, too. WinkyDink Dec 2012 #9
It's a Rupert Murdoch owned rag. What do we expect? go west young man Dec 2012 #15
Despicable Libertas1776 Dec 2012 #18
Disgusting but not unexpected. NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #19
You're supposed to lay down on the track between the rails. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #20
PLEASE STOP MURDOCH CONTACT THE FCC dawn frenzy adams Dec 2012 #21
If I recall correctly, they did something similar when Eric Clapton's son fell to his death. smokey nj Dec 2012 #22
Thank-you for editing the image. n/t Agschmid Dec 2012 #25
This is so awful. polly7 Dec 2012 #29

skypilot

(8,854 posts)
5. Is anyone else believing...
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 02:53 PM
Dec 2012

...this story by the freelance photographer? Couldn't he have put the camera away and helped this guy back up onto the platform? I don't know if I buy this story about trying to warn the conductor with his flash. Did the Post pay him for the photo, I wonder?

skypilot

(8,854 posts)
11. Yes, actually I have...
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:25 PM
Dec 2012

...and I don't see why two people, each grabbing one of the guys hands, wouldn't have been able to pull him up. Unless the guy weighed 300 pounds or something. It would have done a lot more good than taking his picture.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
12. I'm with you
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:28 PM
Dec 2012

Just two people pulling the man up would have done a lot more than bystanders taking pictures or screaming. What is wrong with people!

skypilot

(8,854 posts)
14. Right where?
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:43 PM
Dec 2012

I admit it's hard to tell from the article just how far away the train was when the poor guy was first pushed onto the tracks. But it does seem that it was far enough away for this photographer to have to use his flash to signal to the conductor.

 

OneMoreDemocrat

(913 posts)
16. I helped a guy up once...
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 04:04 PM
Dec 2012

...on the 'L', but I had about a minute or so before the train came into the station.

The actual 'help' took about 7 seconds or so, I just grabbed his jacket and pulled him up like both of our lives depended on it.

skypilot

(8,854 posts)
17. I suspect...
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 04:11 PM
Dec 2012

...that part of the problem is that most people haven't had the opportunity to do what you did and therefore just assume that it isn't possible. Thankfully, people don't fall or get pushed on subway or L tracks everyday but when it does happen it seems that people might be thinking it's game over.

 

OneMoreDemocrat

(913 posts)
23. The thing I remember about it was...
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:23 PM
Dec 2012

When it happened I didn't think, I just helped (for once my impetuousness worked in my favor), and it ended well; luck probably played a roll too.

The 'L' by the way is a NYC subway line that runs through Brooklyn mostly.

skypilot

(8,854 posts)
24. I see.
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 11:38 PM
Dec 2012

When you said "L" I thought of our "El" train here in Philly, which is and elevated train whose route runs underground at some points, like a subway.

I'm glad that you were able to help that guy and not get hurt (or worse) in the process.

mucifer

(23,545 posts)
27. I think it's fight or flight. People might be afraid they'd get pushed next.
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 12:26 AM
Dec 2012

I think some people would help without thinking. I'd like to think I could do that.

Response to Mr. Sparkle (Original post)

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
9. Compared to the Falling Man of 9-11? I think THAT was pretty awful to print, too.
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:15 PM
Dec 2012

Or the Challenger astronauts (plus Christa McAuliffe) waving as they boarded? WE know they are about to be obliterated.

 

go west young man

(4,856 posts)
15. It's a Rupert Murdoch owned rag. What do we expect?
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:58 PM
Dec 2012

The man has made a living off the suffering of others and the human morbid fascination with it. He caters to the lowest denominator in all of us. He is a parasitic creature that thrives in horrid glum environments. Essentially he's a virus. One close to the end of his days thankfully. When people like he and Dick Cheney pass I can't day that I for one will be sad. They are the worst of us. They are legitimized Ted Bundy's, unfortunately. They do their morbid deeds on a much larger scale and drag us (humans) into the mire. My condolences to this poor man killed. Thanks to Murdoch's rag he is twice the victim.

Libertas1776

(2,888 posts)
18. Despicable
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 04:31 PM
Dec 2012

and i clicked on the link and read the story further. The guy taking the photograph wasn't strong enough and never would have been able to help the man up. SO??? A human being would drop his fucking camera and at least give it a try. Of course, seeing as how he then could have been pulled over if he did try that, he could have ran like a mad man toward the train on the platform, shouting, waving his hands and flashing his camera all he wanted to at least get the driver's attention. In the end, that probably would have been an effort in futility, but ya know what? At least he would have tried, in some capacity, to help save this poor man's life. Reaching for his fucking camera to shoot the doomed man should have been the last thing on his mind. And if he did get off the shot anyway, and when he realized what he got, he should have slunk away and deleted it, never to let it see the day of light. Fuck the photographer, you can say all you want about him not being able to physically help the man, but he CHOSE to go down to the Post and profit off that photograph.

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
19. Disgusting but not unexpected.
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 04:37 PM
Dec 2012

And I don't buy that excuse. People take photos in the subway ALL the time. There's no way a camera flash would have warned anyone of anything.

Also, trains come into the station incredibly fast. It's usually seconds from when the train enters to when it's halfway down the platform. Imo he'd have been better off running across to the other side onto the uptown tracks where there was no train.

Horrible all around.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
20. You're supposed to lay down on the track between the rails.
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:33 PM
Dec 2012

And the train will go right over you with no problem. That's why the wells are so deep on subway tracks. Of course, most people don't know this and even if you do, you have to keep your head straight and act. I did a lot of work on the electrical systems in subway tunnels and this is what they train you to do. My friends and I did it as kids for a kick but it's not something you'd ever do more than once because it's unbelievably filthy.


With that said, the cover of the newspaper is in really bad taste. Not ok in the least but also not surprising in the least coming from the Post.

dawn frenzy adams

(429 posts)
21. PLEASE STOP MURDOCH CONTACT THE FCC
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:23 PM
Dec 2012

MURDOCH IS TRYING TO BUY THE LOS ANGELES TIMES AND CHICAGO TRIBUNE. SINCE HE CAN'T EXPAND IN GREAT BRITAIN-DUE TO THE CRIMINALITY OF THE HACKING SCANDAL, HE WILL BE TRYING TO EXPAND HERE.

PLEASE SIGN THIS PETITION. THANK YOU!

Tell the FCC: Stop Rupert Murdoch:

http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/stop_murdoch/?r_by=51248-5414735-q3p_Knx&rc=mailto1

smokey nj

(43,853 posts)
22. If I recall correctly, they did something similar when Eric Clapton's son fell to his death.
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:31 PM
Dec 2012

My memory's a little fuzzy but I think they had a picture of the boy after he'd fallen on their cover.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
29. This is so awful.
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 12:47 AM
Dec 2012

I'm a hick who's never ridden the subway and this is probably a stupid question, but I've always wondered why there isn't sort of safety space where someone falling in could roll into?

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