Trump classified documents case dismissed by Judge Aileen Cannon over special counsel appointment
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Source: CNBC
Published Mon, Jul 15 2024 10:01 AM EDT Updated 1 Min Ago
A federal judge in Florida on Monday dismissed the criminal classified documents case against former President Donald Trump and two co-defendants, ruling that the appointment of special counsel Jack Smith as prosecutor for the case violated the appointments clause of the U.S. Constitution.
Trump was accused in the case of illegally retaining hundreds of classified government documents at his Mar-a-Lago club in Florida after leaving the White House in January 2021, and trying to withhold them from government officials who sought their return.
The bombshell ruling by Judge Aileen Cannon in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida who was appointed to that position by Trump comes two days after a would-be assassin narrowly missed killing Trump during a campaign rally in western Pennsylvania.
Cannons ruling, which also tossed criminal charges faced by Trumps valet Walt Nauta and Mar-a-Lago worker Carlos De Oliveira, was issued hours before the start of the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee. That convention will formally confirm Trump as the GOP presidential nominee for Novembers election. The Clerk is directed to CLOSE this case, Cannon wrote in her decision.
Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/15/trump-classified-documents-case-dismissed-by-judge-over-special-counsel-appointment.html
Link to dismissal ORDER (PDF) - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653.672.0.pdf
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Published Mon, Jul 15 2024 10:01 AM EDT Updated 3 Min Ago
A federal judge in Florida on Monday dismissed the criminal classified documents case against former President Donald Trump and two co-defendants, ruling that the appointment of special counsel Jack Smith as prosecutor for the case violated the appointments clause of the U.S. Constitution.
Trump was accused in the case of illegally retaining hundreds of classified government documents after leaving the White House in January 2021, and trying to withhold them from government officials who sought their return.
The bombshell ruling by Judge Aileen Cannon in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida -- who was appointed to that position by Trump -- ruling comes two days after a would-be assassin narrowly missed killing Trump during a campaign rally in western Pennsylvania.
Cannon's ruling, which also tossed criminal charges faced by Trump's valet Walt Nauta and Mar-a-Lago worker Carlos De Oliveira, was issued hours before the start of the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee. That convention will formally confirm Trump as the GOP presidential nominee for November's election.
A federal judge in Florida on Monday dismissed the criminal classified documents case against former President Donald Trump, saying the appointment of special counsel Jack Smith as prosecutor for the case violated the appointments clause of the U.S. Constitution. Trump was accused in the case of illegally retaining classified government documents after leaving the White House in January 2021, and trying to withhold them from government officials who sought their return.
The bombshell ruling by Judge Aileen Cannon -- who was appointed to the federal bench by Trump -- ruling comes two days after a would-be assassin narrowly missed killing Trump during a campaign rally in western Pennsylvania. Smith's office can appeal Cannon's ruling, and is almost certain to do so.
The issue of the legality of his appointment is likely to end up before the U.S. Supreme Court. Cannon in her ruling granting a dismissal motion by Trump's found that Smith's appointment as special counsel by Attorney General Merrick Garland violated the Constitution's appointments clause, which says "Officers of the United States" must be appointed by the president and confirmed by the U.S. Senate. She also ruled that Smith's use of "permanent indefinite appropriation" -- funding for his prosecution office -- violated that constitutional clause.
Trump still faces three other pending criminal prosecutions. In one of those, in federal court in Washington, D.C., the Republican is accused of crimes related to his efforts to undo his 2020 election loss to President Joe Biden. Smith's office is prosecuting that case against Trump in Washington.
A federal judge in Florida on Monday dismissed the criminal classified documents case against former President Donald Trump, saying the appointment of special counsel Jack Smith as prosecutor for the case violated the appointments clause of the U.S. Constitution.
Trump was accused in the case of illegally retaining classified government documents after leaving the White House in January 2021, and trying to withhold them from government officials who sought their return. The bombshell ruling by Judge Aileen Cannon -- who was appointed to the federal bench by Trump -- ruling comes two days after a would-be assassin narrowly missed killing Trump during a campaign rally in western Pennsylvania.
Trump still faces three other pending criminal prosecutions. In one of those, in federal court in Washington, D.C., the Republican is accused of crimes related to his efforts to undo his 2020 election loss to President Joe Biden. Trump is charged in a state case in Georgia with racketeering related to his attempts to reverse his 2020 electoral loss.
And he is awaiting criminal sentencing in New York state court after begin convicted this year of crimes connected to a 2016 hush money payment by his then-lawyer to porn star Stormy Daniels.
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A federal judge in Florida on Monday dismissed the criminal classified documents case against former President Donald Trump, saying the appointment of special counsel Jack Smith as prosecutor for the case violated the appointments clause of the U.S. Constitution.
Trump was accused in the case of illegally retaining classified government documents after leaving the White House in January 2021, and trying to withhold them from government officials who sought their return.
The bombshell ruling by Judge Aileen Cannon -- who was appointed to the federal bench by Trump -- ruling comes two days after a would-be assassin narrowly missed killing Trump during a campaign rally in western Pennsylvania.
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A federal judge in Florida on Monday dismissed the criminal classified documents case against former President Donald Trump, saying the appointment of special counsel Jack Smith as prosecutor for the case violated the U.S. Constitution.
Trump was accused in the case of illegally retaining classified government documents after leaving the White House in January 2021, and trying to withhold them from government officials who sought their return.
The ruling comes two days after a would-be assassin narrowly missed killing Trump during a campaign rally in western Pennsylvania.
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brer cat
(27,048 posts)Abigail_Adams
(333 posts)But still utterly outrageous. She should be impeached for this glaring conflict of interest.
jimfields33
(19,382 posts)Of course she went through every word in the constitution to find something.
Polybius
(20,607 posts)I honestly can't remember.
24601
(4,095 posts)onlyadream
(2,240 posts)I'm sure there's a crew of lawyers going over every word to find loop hole. I just wonder why now? Is it bc Trump has some sympathy?
KS Toronado
(21,061 posts)
IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,198 posts)... they have been working on this for decades. Comes from the same root that gave us, "corporations are people, too". One thing leads to another, huh?
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Bengus81
(9,088 posts)One of the better reasons he never needs to be within a 1000 miles of the WH.
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Bayard
(26,176 posts)GiqueCee
(2,607 posts)... of Project 2025. Maybe it won't be a dumpster, maybe it'll be an incinerator, or a waste basket, but the declaration of their intention to rescind the Constitution is clearly in there. Not to mention Trump's repeated statements to that effect.
Mr. Evil
(3,367 posts)No more 2nd amendment for all the gullible, gun-humping MAGAt rubes. Obviously, none of them have ever heard the old saying, 'be careful what you wish for.'
Claustrum
(5,052 posts)Just look at any positions they hold. They are all over the place depending on their preference.
GiqueCee
(2,607 posts)... but their standard "I know you are, but what am I?" style of playground politics doesn't get them very far. With their limited vocabulary of dis, dat, dese, does, and fuck, you can tie them up in rhetorical knots pretty easily, but the exercise is akin to shooting fish in a barrel. Not very rewarding.
GiqueCee
(2,607 posts)I'll toss that out as a pithy aside when next I encounter one of those nitwits. I've been so enraged by the very existence of this 900+ page monstrosity that I'd overlooked that very cogent point. Thanks for the tip!
Historic NY
(39,166 posts)the law leaves the appointment to the AG
GiqueCee
(2,607 posts)... "Loose" Cannon is full of shit? Republicans will spew false accusations knowing full well they're all bullshit, but they know that reversing her on this is going to be a time-consuming nightmare, which is the whole point.
Republicans consider honesty a weakness to be exploited. Democrats play by the rules; Republicans wipe their asses with the rules.
brakester
(392 posts)a corrupt idjit.
We are truly and thoroughly f@ckd. I was listening to "Jack" the podcast last night. They concluded that there is NO WAY OUT OF THIS, except to keep electing Dems until magically this Extreme Court changes its make up.
This Court is thoroughly corrupt and has overstepped its authority.
There is another way. Since Biden now has total immunity, he has to add enough justices to flip the balance. Then, there's a long list of actions to shift us back to a democracy again. Primary among these changes is to reestablish the separation of powers between the three branches of government and put some strict limits on the Court.
Of course, our upstanding (to a fault) President has to do something against his very moral nature.
dpibel
(3,627 posts)You might be interested in knowing that, for instance, a couple or three special counsels were appointed during the Trump regime and, amazingly, they were appointed without any contact with the Senate.
So it's odd you think it would have been such a heck of an easy thing to get a Senate vote.
Polybius
(20,607 posts)If she thinks it's illegal, why didn't she dismiss the case in January?
TwilightZone
(28,835 posts)Delay, delay, delay, plus it's right before the RNC and the VP announcement.
Polybius
(20,607 posts)Plus if she dismissed the case in January, it may have been appealed and decided by now.
PatSeg
(50,672 posts)Did someone "persuade" her or was this the plan all along, to stall and drag the trial out for months and then toss the whole thing before the republican convention? These people are alarmingly obvious.
niyad
(125,596 posts)has everyone's attention?
Igel
(37,026 posts)They look at the arguments that are presented and, if found wanting (in the judge's opinion), then the court forms a separate argument.
Red Mountain
(2,147 posts)for the first day of the RNC
jmbar2
(7,108 posts)Mme. Defarge
(8,731 posts)without making any sound.
Turbineguy
(39,168 posts)This is why you need to have a Judge in your pocket.
underpants
(191,735 posts)Joinfortmill
(18,674 posts)MontanaMama
(24,512 posts)Christ.
SKKY
(12,611 posts)JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)Lovie777
(19,471 posts)JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)Polybius
(20,607 posts)It will be next June, probably on the very last day.
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)sop
(15,331 posts)(CNN) Special counsel Jack Smith told the judge in the classified documents case in Florida that Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas criticism of his appointment should have no bearing on the criminal case against former President Donald Trump.
In a brief filing Friday, Smith said that Thomas writing in the presidential immunity case in a concurrence that no other justice joined isnt binding on US District Judge Aileen Cannon.
Nor does it provide a sound basis to deviate from the uniform conclusion of all courts to have considered the issue that the Attorney General is statutorily authorized to appoint a Special Counsel, Smith said.
In a filing last week, Trumps lawyers brought to Cannons attention both the Supreme Courts immunity ruling and the concurrence that Thomas wrote in that dispute. That ruling directly arose out of the election subversion case against Trump in Washington, DC, but may have an impact on all four criminal cases against him.
Trumps legal team told Cannon that Thomas concurrence bolstered the former presidents arguments for dismissing the charges in Florida on the basis that Smith was illegally appointed and that the funding of his office violates the Constitution.
Trump has claimed hes entitled to presidential immunity and argued the case should be dismissed, despite the fact that almost all of the alleged conduct took place after he left office.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/12/politics/jack-smith-clarence-thomas-filing/index.html
crickets
(26,158 posts)Link to tweet
@KatiePhang
Reminder: Justice Clarence Thomas, in his concurrence in the immunity decision, invited Judge Aileen Cannon to grant Trump's Motion to Dismiss on the Appointments Clause issue.
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10:52 AM · Jul 15, 2024
Link to tweet
@kylegriffin1
Big flag: There is NOTHING in Judge Cannon's ruling that speaks to the merits of the Trump classified documents case. Cannon ruled on a procedural issue.
Jeux olympiques de Paris du 5 au 13 août 🐢
@HarlemJ11
Thats because the evidence here is damning and overwhelming as to Trumps absolute contempt for federal law
Mishandling documents moving them when it was clear investigators were coming right down to I declassified everything psychically
If it gets to a jury it is a WRAP for him
They have to derail it some other way
11:00 AM · Jul 15, 2024
Katinfl
(440 posts)Maeve
(43,296 posts)

Hong Kong Cavalier
(4,603 posts)Expect them all to have speeches about this crap during Fascist Fest '24.
I hate that judge with the heat of a nova.
Raven123
(6,883 posts)Is she trying to highlight it or bury it
Trueblue Texan
(3,531 posts)Go figure.
Bernardo de La Paz
(57,321 posts)FBaggins
(28,281 posts)I can't see any way that she could pen a 93-page ruling on a Sunday
Raven123
(6,883 posts)You can bet TFG will highlight this. As far as the shooting goes, I never thought of it.
Codifer
(1,019 posts)Before the shooting, even trumpers might consider this decision a bridge too far.
But now the god emperor hero near martyr has been saved by jaysus from bad lefty assassins.
So it is OK if he sells the blood of the democracy.
Claustrum
(5,052 posts)They considere any TFG prosecutions political. And they live in a fantasy land that he never lost a case and never settled any (he said that he never settled any cases before the TFG university thing only to settle it a few weeks after).
machoneman
(4,128 posts)have drafted such a long summary? Who helped her, the RNC lawyers? TFG's lawyers? SC judges? We want to know who else was gunning for Jack Smith.
I do think Thomas' statement was requested on the sly in order to give Cannon an easy way out. This case as many scholars and experts said long ago was the most straightforward case of all of them. Yet, Cannon twisted every motion by TFG's lawyers not only to delay but allow time for Thomas and his staff to put this poison pill on Smith.
Gotta be the most egregious failure of Justice of all time!
Historic NY
(39,166 posts)Raven123
(6,883 posts)crickets
(26,158 posts)vapor2
(2,757 posts)suegeo
(3,027 posts)Fascists are slippery little shits aren't they.
Botany
(74,873 posts)We executed the Rosenbergs for what Trump did and FBI agent Robert Hansen died doing
15 life terms for stealing the type of documents Trump stole and most likely sold.
Kid Berwyn
(21,532 posts)Including six on SCrOTUS.
Botany
(74,873 posts)Just like the Supreme Court giving Trump immunity because he was President and he
only got to be President by being part of a criminal conspiracy with Russia, Fox News,
and the GOP.
CoopersDad
(3,204 posts)hadEnuf
(3,324 posts)The other side certainly realizes this. Maybe we should too and act like it.
OldBaldy1701E
(8,480 posts)Novara
(6,115 posts)He was not president when he stole classified material. He was not president when he stored the documents illegally. He was not president when he refused to give them back and played cat and mouse to keep the government from getting them back. He was not president when he enlisted others within the conspiracy to hide them.
Time to get her ass off the case and try again.
Tadpole Raisin
(1,889 posts)which by definition will not be reviewable and no evidence with any presidential communications will be permitted either.
These people are evil.
Bengus81
(9,088 posts)Try calling that an official act of the POTUS.
Justice matters.
(8,678 posts)Their evil project 2025 as top priority.
They want the rule of their mad king who's in cahoots with putin and kim jung oooon...
mtngirl47
(1,174 posts)"The appointments clause of the Constitution."
2naSalit
(97,407 posts)Is going to go full bore on this one because he wrote that SC rule.
Bet you a dollar MSNBC changes their mind about their 24hrs of wounded ear.
24601
(4,095 posts)immunity.
Since her ruling applies only to this case, the DOJ appealing the ruling risks it being applied to other cases. Not appealing Cannon's ruling makes it likely irrelevant to a case in DC.
Lonestarblue
(12,841 posts)I think some documents had been shipped to MAL before his last day in office while others were shipped probably on the plane that took him to MAL. In effect, the theft took place in DC, the coverup and refusal to return his loot took place in Florida and possibly New Jersey.
That said, taking classified documents might have been excused had he returned them all when requested. He refused and tried to hide them, thus the second crime.
FakeNoose
(38,034 posts)It only makes sense because once Biden was inaugurated, Chump and his stuff were gone and no chance to come back for more.
There was about a 2-week period after January 6th (before the inauguration) when the nation was stunned, and Chump kept very quiet while he planned his getaway. That's when all the pardons were given out, remember? Also Chump and his wife decided what they were going to pack up and take with him to Mar-A-Lago.
If only we had had federal agents escort him out of the White House on January 7th. "That's OK sir, we'll make sure you get your property delivered. Now get out of here." That would have been the smart thing to do.
Bengus81
(9,088 posts)Bottom line as everyone has said for years--IF that POS would have just given them all back,even months and months after they were asked to be returned there would have never been charges, a case filed, nothing.
He broke the law,so did Nada and that occurred well after he azzzz was out of the WH.
kelly1mm
(5,756 posts)(allegedly) being improperly appointed.
Thus the timeframe argument you are making is irrelevant to this dismissal. The dismissal very well may be bogus, but not for the reasons you state.
littlemissmartypants
(28,637 posts)Thank you, Jack Smith for all you're doing for us. You're a true patriot!
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(126,568 posts)
walkingman
(9,623 posts)LiberalArkie
(18,658 posts)the presidents have immunity for actions done as president. Per the supremes. And since he was wounded in the head and survived Per the Revelations of John. 13:3.
One of the heads of the beast appeared to be mortally wounded. But the mortal wound was healed, and the whole world marveled and followed the beast. 4They worshiped the dragon who had given authority to the beast, and they worshiped the beast, saying, Who is like the beast, and who can wage war against it?
live love laugh
(15,691 posts)Dyedinthewoolliberal
(16,141 posts)since it never went to trial can he be charged all over again? That's what I would do...........
angrychair
(10,921 posts)But I know a little. He was not found innocent of the charges but the case was dropped on a technicality. So yes, the DOJ can bring it back up.
Polybius
(20,607 posts)Not sure if that can be subject to a filibuster.
slightlv
(6,198 posts)was voted on by the Senate? I thought that was why they were called "special" counsels? They were appointed by those who WERE voted on by Senate reps. So, in short, she's just basically negated the entire judicial system. Great... throw her out. She's just put herself out of job. IANAL, and it shows!
Polybius
(20,607 posts)But the only other option besides voting on a Special Council is appealing, where it will eventually head to the Supreme Court. Even if they rule against Judge Aileen Cannon, it could take until next June to release their decision.
thatdemguy
(606 posts)He was nominated by trump to be an AG in Delaware. Biden did not replace him, so he carried over under President Biden.
He was then made special council by Garland, but at that point he was an appointed and approved AG. AG's job is to prosecute criminals and appointed and approved by congress to do so. Vs jack smith who was not.
If you ask me Garland screwed up ( again ) and did not pick an existing AG to be special council. We can add this to the list of things Garland has dropped the ball on, including releasing robert hur's report.
I do find it kind of funny that Garland also appointed hur as special council to look at Biden's classified document case, as Hur was no longer an appointed AG as he had resigned. So even if hur had found enough reason to go after Pres Biden for it, under this ruling by cannon it would have been tossed out as well.
crickets
(26,158 posts)slightlv
(6,198 posts)But I have to say, snarkily, yeah... right... they would have tossed out the case against Hunter. THAT one they would have found a way around the issue, I have no doubt!
thatdemguy
(606 posts)to get his conviction tossed.
Scalded Nun
(1,453 posts)2 days after shooting, right at start of RNC convention.
Almost like it was planned.
Maybe the only mistake was asswipe actually getting nicked by a bullet.
Tadpole Raisin
(1,889 posts)her off (? And refers her for disciplinary action if they are allowed), and writes a bullet proof opinion for the SC, weve already seen that well written bullet proof opinions are tossed aside by the conservative majority like so much rubbish.
Thomas really gave her permission with his additional concurring statement which I thought had no standing in the decision itself.
When did that ever stop them. I hate these people!!
Fiendish Thingy
(20,208 posts)Emptywheel has a quick take on this (shes still plowing through the 93 age opinion), and suggests the charges could simply be refiled by a US Attorney.
https://www.emptywheel.net/2024/07/15/aileen-cannon-dismisses-stolen-documents-case-based-on-special-counsel-appointment/
Scrivener7
(56,541 posts)
Fiendish Thingy
(20,208 posts)Substituting presumed doom and gloom for facts is no way to go through life.
Scrivener7
(56,541 posts)has begun to seem empty even to you.
Fiendish Thingy
(20,208 posts)Unlike others, who presume if it were anybody else
, I dont have a rigid expectation of how things are supposed to move along.
There are obstacles and delays, some expected, some not, some bypassed, some not.
Scrivener7
(56,541 posts)
FBaggins
(28,281 posts)Too close to the election and there isn't an easy mechanism to transfer the case
And if he wins in November - an all new batch of attorneys
An appeal to the 11th is possible - but I can't see it happening in time for some other judge to get this to trial in time - and the 11th still leans red
Fiendish Thingy
(20,208 posts)Cannon saw to that long ago.
The outcome always depended on the outcome of the election.
Now we know she wont be the judge at any future trial.
ihaveaquestion
(3,879 posts)My second thought was that this also has implications for special counsels appointed to investigate democrats, ie Robert Hur. Will even the SC want to negate these investigations?
Pluvious
(5,047 posts)"My instant impression was this was bad for Trump. Now DOJ can revamp their case in a separate jurisdiction, or refile with DOJ staff or appeal and have the case shifted. It really feels to me like Judge Cannon decided it was time to bail and took the opportunity."
I'm still in shock...
Fiendish Thingy
(20,208 posts)Now we know any future trial wont involve Cannon.
Cheezoholic
(3,149 posts)That being the right of the DOJ to appoint neutral special council's to add another layer of keeping political bias out of law enforcement. This has already been ruled on by a previous SCOTUS to the affirmative. This SCOTUS baited her into tossing the case so they could rule special council's are unconstitutional when it gets to them full stop.
This is once again a wide open example of the technique this SCOTUS is using to overstep their Constitutional check that prevents them from legislating and creating law. When we win they must be knocked back into their place and a check placed to prevent a rogue SCOTUS from ever happening again. (Congressional approval anytime SCOTUS reverses a previous SCOTUS decision? Just an idea)
Fiendish Thingy
(20,208 posts)Cheezoholic
(3,149 posts)Prairie Gates
(5,737 posts)It would be hard to refile, no? She leaves open the question of remedy for what she sees as a violation of the Appropriations clause, but certainly argues that dismissal is the precedent remedy (in the CFPB case). In other words, if the DOJ refiles outside the Special Counsel structure with the same evidence, then the Appropriations clause issue comes into play and the dismissal happens that way.
Fiendish Thingy
(20,208 posts)So that seems to eliminate dismissal via the appropriations clause.
ificandream
(11,268 posts)I didn't see how it was possible the case could be dismissed over the apppointment of Jack Smith. He's not been the first special prosecutor and likely not the last.
My God, the corruption is deep with this one.
jimfields33
(19,382 posts)Doesnt matter if they are still on that court. Just that they got the ok by congress at one time.
bucolic_frolic
(51,626 posts)This is not only orchestrated, it's choreographed, to time with other events, which were also orchestrated, and have been planned for many months.
Scrivener7
(56,541 posts)The timing is just like a dance, no?
PortTack
(35,679 posts)Joinfortmill
(18,674 posts)Freethinker65
(11,194 posts)Alrighty then.
If Trump wins, this country and its laws cease to exist. With this ruling, we are pretty damn close to that already.
Abigail_Adams
(333 posts)and, once he's officially the nominee ha can start receiving intelligence briefings. Just after meeting with Orban.
brakester
(392 posts)I just read that the DOJ already decided to not give him briefings.
crickets
(26,158 posts)We all know tfg will ll raise a big stink about it (in spite of having done the same to Biden just to be petty) and claim it's all so unfair. Nobody with any brains, including non-MAGA Repubs, will give a hoot. He can suck eggs.
thinkingagain
(1,304 posts)If he stole them in DC, even though they were found in Florida, why wasnt this tried in DC where the crime was first committed?
And also, can American people sue the judge because it seem she so obviously Trump bought and paid for
( the S C also for that matter - with their gift's etc )
FBaggins
(28,281 posts)If they were moved to FL while he was president - they weren't "stolen". The argument was that after he left office he was asked for them back and refused. That presumably occurred in FL.
thinkingagain
(1,304 posts)I think I remember reading that now
slightlv
(6,198 posts)it seems like we -ought- to be able to bring some sort of class action lawsuit against trump, especially since Cannon has done nothing but delay, disrupt, and dismiss everything about this case. To any normal individual, it was an open-and-shut case, especially based on past experience and law. And they sure weren't pussyfooting around about a SC when they tried to impeach and indict Clinton. Yes... there's a whole basket of worms to set loose if Smith wants to take this upwards. And right now, I don't care. I just went through a court date with my grandson for charges that were dropped prior to the court date. I'm sick and tired of the two tiered justice system. I'd like to see Aileen Cannon brought up on charges of fraud for attempting to pass as a judge.
This just feeds my feeling that everything has been part of the slow-moving coup Trump and R's have been pulling since before the 2020 election. Everything from screaming that the election is rigged a year before the election in 2020 to his "near miss" night before last. It's all connected and stagecrafted. You'll never be able to convince me otherwise. This ruling is just one more piece of the puzzle. We'd better be a hell of a lot faster at putting these pieces together than we have been in the past. If we don't do something drastic, they ARE going to GIVE him the presidency, elections be damned. I'm so p'o'd right now, I can't see straight. I honestly didn't see how she could legally dismiss this case, but damn... she and old Clarence found a way. There is no justice; there is no law. That's only for the "little people." Damn them!
former9thward
(33,424 posts)He was charged with not returning them. That occurred in Florida. That is why the charges were filed there.
Codifer
(1,019 posts)Last edited Mon Jul 15, 2024, 11:51 AM - Edit history (1)
feeling that, despite all all recent assaults on democracy, we have yet to see the worst. The evil will stop at nothing.
I hate this feeling.
"The best lack all conviction while the worst are full of passionate intensity."
W.B. Yeats
Edit to replace Eliot with Yeats
I'm old
pfitz59
(11,701 posts)and 'We the People' will get the worst of it!
regnaD kciN
(27,201 posts)byronius
(7,790 posts)Traitors all.
SpankMe
(3,539 posts)openly hand over all our military and economic secrets to our worst enemy, order our army to stand down while our enemy attacks, stand in the oval office and literally hand over the reins of the US to a foreign power on TV, and the only recourse is impeachment and removal from office by the Senate.
Got it.
If this is true, then what's the point of being a country? What's the point of defining us as Americans? What's the point of the constitution? Doesn't this ruling make it all meaningless?
I just don't get any of this. I'm so disillusioned that I'm almost dizzy and numb.
you nailed it.
Sadly
quaint
(3,981 posts)djacq
(1,729 posts)
aggiesal
(10,203 posts)Jack Smith will appeal it immediately.
She's done.
bluestarone
(19,999 posts)Thomas owns the SC as well.
kelly1mm
(5,756 posts)go to the USSC. I don't think him appealing this immediately or otherwise will change the eventual outcome given the tilt of the USSC, do you?
aggiesal
(10,203 posts)liberalla
(10,618 posts)Hopefully a higher power (judicial) will smack her down!
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,992 posts)Stunning, blatant corruption!
Mr. Sparkle
(3,458 posts)but the fact this came from Aileen Cannon means it could be 100% bullshit.
orangecrush
(25,887 posts)Scrivener7
(56,541 posts)Jarqui
(10,700 posts)riversedge
(76,813 posts)Just in time for the RNC convention!!
Judge dismisses Donald Trump's classified documents case
Boxes of classified documents were found at Trump's Mar-a-Lago home.
By Katherine Faulders
July 15, 2024, 9:00 AM
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/judge-dismisses-donald-trumps-classified-documents-case/story?id=111951588
..........Cannon noted that her ruling does not apply to other jurisdictions, meaning the order may not apply to the special counsel's Jan. 6 election interference case against Trump.
A spokesperson for the special counsel did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
The order can be appealed, and other district judges and the D.C. Circuit have upheld the constitutionality of special counsels in previous legal challenges.
If overturned on appeal, the order could also give rise to Smith moving for Cannon to be taken off the case, citing her pattern of unusually favorable rulings that have benefited Trump and raised the eyebrows of legal experts across the political spectrum.
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MrWowWow
(651 posts)or is he just tossed into the dustbin of history, as was the rule of law in this country?
brakester
(392 posts)becoming so complex that ordinary citizens like us have no idea or power to change this. All we can do is make sure Biden wins in November. Let's work our behinds off.
We need to be saved by some bold action by some experienced patriot with more knowledge than us.
TomCADem
(17,831 posts)Amazing. After several decades of special counsel, Judge Cannon thinks she knows better. Of course, does this mean that Hunter Biden is now off the hook?
kelly1mm
(5,756 posts)Jack Smith has never been confirmed by the Senate to any position.
Smackdown2019
(1,301 posts)Midnight Writer
(24,402 posts)it took a very special Judge to finally notice that the whole system is unconstitutional and illegal.
kelly1mm
(5,756 posts)has not. That is the 'hook' they are using .....
Midnight Writer
(24,402 posts)trusty elf
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Comfortably_Numb
(4,188 posts)Could this be the ridiculous decision that finally gets ILean over to kiss trumps ass removed once and for all??
sboatcar
(630 posts)On the first day of the RNC, case dismissed.....I mean COME ON
Scrivener7
(56,541 posts)That would have been great.
mn9driver
(4,758 posts)Apparently not.
sarchasm
(1,268 posts)jmbar2
(7,108 posts)CaptainTruth
(7,800 posts)It's been reported that senior judges advised her to not take the case because of her lack of experience, so I'll be interested to see how this plays out. And why this special counsel, out of all the ones appointed since Ulysses Grant in 1875, is "unconstitutional."
It may go all the way to SCOTUS, probably.
bdamomma
(68,902 posts)who is the 11th Circuit Judge? and if appealed this case won't be heard what until next year. I have been reading all these posts so the golden TSF is given another pass for his criminal activity? And does he still have in his possession these not so classified documents?? What is the next step?
It never stops, but it will have to be ones to stop this. Really I am not doing this
Native
(7,200 posts)iemanja
(56,361 posts)He only appointed the Counsel to avoid political fallout. Now we see the result.
ffr
(23,209 posts)

underpants
(191,735 posts)He and they will make a big stink of it but this isnt going to sell with parents especially in the burbs - and they are the focus of this election. Everyone knows he stole them. Now Mom and Dad see a world where he gets away with stealing. Theyve told their kids that stealing is wrong and now they see this.
Vinca
(52,460 posts)jalan48
(14,908 posts)Democrats are quickly approaching a collective WTF happened?
StarryNite
(11,676 posts)
enigmania
(352 posts)"New World Order" BS was pure projection by the right.
claudette
(5,455 posts)Now it can be appealed - or case filed in DC - either way - there will be a NEW judge! Cannon will be gone.
Blue Owl
(56,806 posts)
Dave Bowman
(5,542 posts)brakester
(392 posts)a gun to the head.
ancianita
(41,183 posts)AKwannabe
(6,811 posts)RobertDevereaux
(2,007 posts)I expect swift action by Jack Smith and the 11 Circuit Court of Appeals. I also expect that Cannon will be impeached, disbarred, arrested, indicted, convicted, and jailed for her treasonous acts against our nation.
Looking forward to Glenn Kirchner's take.
FBaggins
(28,281 posts)She might indeed be overturned... likely too far down the road for anyone here to consider it "swift action".
But there's no chance of impeached/disbarred/arrested/indicted/convicted/jailed.
ancianita
(41,183 posts)maga six injustices who will then overturn the 11th AND support Cannon's dismissal of the case.
Clarence Thomas gave her the reasoning that the maga six will accept:
https://archive.ph/bkdPM#selection-6013.0-6025.5
TBF
(35,174 posts)but in reality, there is a Supreme Court that would all be appealed to, and then we lose. Every time.
That's the thing people aren't getting - Trump and his fascists accomplished a ton with his Court picks. We are back at Hillary was right about everything. She saw it all going down before a lot of us put it together.
Our only remaining chance is the swing states. And the deep-pocket donors who are throwing their tantrums need to pull it together and start funding. Money won't help them against Trump if he's reelected.
RobertDevereaux
(2,007 posts)X twitter by Laurence Tribe:
Judge Cannon just did the unthinkable: She dismissed the Trump classified documents case on the repeatedly rejected basis that DOJ violated the Constitutions Appointments Clause by appointing Special Counsel Smith at all! DOJ must appeal right away. On SCOTUS, only Justice Thomas took that view in Trump v. United States. This finally gives Jack Smith an opportunity to seek her removal from the case. I think the case for doing so is very strong.
ancianita
(41,183 posts)Justice Thomas reasons that if Congress has not reached a consensus that a particular office should exist, the Executivein the person of the attorney generallacks the power to create and fill an office of his own accord, and urges that the lower courts should . . . answer these essential questions concerning the Special Counsels appointment before proceeding. U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon of Florida, where the prosecution of Trump for unlawful handling of classified documents is pending, has already heard arguments relating to both the creation of the special counsels office and Mr. Smiths appointment..
If Congress had wished to allow the attorney general to create an office of special prosecutor, it would have done so with a statute as simple and direct as those that give the power to create offices to other cabinet secretariesincluding the secretaries of transportation, agriculture, health and human services and education. It wouldnt have relied on gossamer emanations from four statutes.
Proponents of the special counsels powers cite court cases to support their position. Among the most frequently cited is the Supreme Courts opinion in U.S. v. Nixon (1974), which described special counsel Leon Jaworskiwho, like Mr. Smith, was appointed by an attorney generalas having acted pursuant to a statute relied on by Jack Smith here. However, the issue of whether Jaworski was authorized to act wasnt before the court in the Nixon case, .
https://archive.ph/bkdPM#selection-6005.41-6009.624
Speculation, I know...
This bought right wing court now presumes to constitutionalize all official acts (once held as crimes) -- And so it could/might/will(?) confront President Biden to use that decision to RESTORE the Special Counsel through an official act.
brakester
(392 posts)We are at a very dangerous tipping point. Instead of moaning about this, we need to fight this in every way we are capable.
ancianita
(41,183 posts)AllyCat
(18,094 posts)Who, then, would be correctly appointed for this job? Anyone know?
I give up.
Abstractartist
(288 posts)This case was a total fuck up from the beginning. Garland should have known better. Can they refile later?
I am still confident that President Biden will win a second term. Too little Trump base to vote him in, too many pissed off women to vote him in, too many smart independents that can read the writing on the wall to vote him in
.. 270 is the goal, and we will get it done. Next term, Garland needs to go.
3catwoman3
(27,253 posts)assigned to this case.
BigDemVoter
(4,642 posts)This is fucking disgusting on every single level. I am going to have to take a break from the news, as it raises my blood pressure too much.
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Miami Blue
(324 posts)Please sign this petition ASAP
berksdem
(829 posts)every be held accountable for any of his crimes? So frustrating yet not shocked by anything these days.
Claustrum
(5,052 posts)This case was never going to court before the election and after the SC decision, the dismissal was going to happen. Everything is sadly going TFG's way. They were never going to let TFG be legally responsible so he would seem "acceptable" for swing voters.
I am sorry. This is what not voting for Hilary back in 2016 did. It was always about the supreme court. I was a first time voter that I considered myself center but slightly leaning right. I saw TFG and became a democrats (most likely for life now). It's so sad so many in the country didn't realize and see through what TFG was/is. It's especially sad for some who are supposedly lean left that couldn't vote for Hilary. We will be living through the consequence of that bad decision for years to come. I really wish TFG was defeated back then and wouldn't have taken over the republican party.
I am not saying it's the end. I am saying we have to work extra hard to turn out the vote to prevent TFG taking the office again. We have to unite no matter what you think on certain matters, such as the divide on Isreal and Gaza, Joe's age, Joe's not left enough, Joe's debate preformance.
cactusfractal
(578 posts)And is left aphasic and quadriplegic, but lives a very very long time soaking in silence and her own waste.
Claustrum
(5,052 posts)There is clearly someone way more problematic than her.
bromeando
(128 posts)If I stole classified documents from my employer, I would be in jail now. Trump is being treated with kid gloves.
JoseBalow
(8,026 posts)
bromeando
(128 posts)That's my kitty's name
JoseBalow
(8,026 posts)Whenever you reply in a thread, you usually make that the title. Like in this thread, for instance. What does that have to do with Trump classified documents?
LilElf70
(1,000 posts)I'm sorry I didn't read every post here, but I have a few questions.
A lawyer is a lawyer. How did Jack Smith, a prosecutor for the case, violate the appointments clause of the U.S. Constitution?
And TFG stealing documents can be in no way interpreted as a presidential act, thus immunity should not even be considered in this case.
And if they're going to drop this case, why not reopen it with a different lawyer that is acceptable. Why is Jack Smith considered to be the type of lawyer that violates the US constitution?
The corrupt right is after our constitution. None of them believe in the constitution, and will always seek judges that will back up the corrupt awipe. There's hundreds of thousands of lawyers in this country. Find one that supports the constitution and the rule of law.
That is all.
Blue Full Moon
(2,516 posts)No theory, fact. Conspiracy fact, the republicans have been working on this for a long time. They obviously believe they have everything in place. They think the democrats are weak and timid. Do they have control of enough states for a second Constitutional Convention? In 1975 Congressman Jerry Pettis introduced 94th H.Con.Res.28
2011 legislators in AL, LA,ND approved resolutions applying for an Article V Convention. Convention of States.
Texas asked federal court to order a constitutional convention to be held in Kansas by Jan. 31, 2023.
34 states is what they need. They have 28 states they just need 6 more for a Article V convention. 2021 ALEC aligned with Trump to alter the nations bedrock legal text since 1788.
iluvtennis
(21,318 posts)upended on a technicality.
Bring the appeal NOW Jack Smith as Cannon's ruling is specious.
moniss
(7,758 posts)so now it's on to appeal. Yes this was all likely cooked and orchestrated for her behind the scenes and the "cover" for her was the telegraphed message by Cash and Carry Clarence. I also doubt she has the intellect or legal acumen to whip out this lengthy of a decision in the short time since the motion to dismiss and the response by Smith. She never had a single moment in this pre-trial phase either publicly or in any decision prior to this that would lend credence to her having more than enough brain cells firing than it takes to be barely above the level of a zombie.
PatrickforB
(15,254 posts)Just raw greed on the part of the billionaires and Wall Street, really.
Evil in the form of greed and envy is starkly banal, borning, really, but there it is. And Aileen Cannon is going right along with the flow toward that great Wall Street whirlpool sucking what's left of our republic down the drain.
Bayard
(26,176 posts)And does this mean, any Special Counsel that's ever been appointed would be illegal in her book, or only the Democrat ones?
Orrex
(65,660 posts)AngryOldDem
(14,180 posts)Good to know, too, that its apparently okay for a former president to take classified documents and store them in the crapper.
Christ, what a country weve become.
OverBurn
(1,259 posts)Emile
(36,175 posts)LeftInTX
(32,858 posts)Efilroft Sul
(4,099 posts)And the Nuremberg rally begins tonight.
Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)SunSeeker
(56,248 posts)She is another Clarence Thomas. Incompetent and completely corrupt.
jmowreader
(52,560 posts)If this ruling holds, it means only 93 people - the United States Attorneys, who are confirmed by the Senate after Presidential appointment - are allowed to bring criminal cases before a federal court, and the thousands of people who were tried by Assistant United States Attorneys are now entitled to appeal based on the fact all AUSAs are simply hired by the US Attorneys rather than being confirmed by the Senate.
Lemon Lyman
(1,502 posts)llmart
(16,664 posts)he's still a CONVICTED FELON. Let's keep that label on him from here to eternity (or at least until President Biden wins).
Beck23
(397 posts)I think we are seeing a slow moving coup kicked off by the Supreme Court.
SARose
(1,687 posts)My husband just said that. He said she should have waited until closer to the election.
Think about the ads running from now until November.
This is what Project 2025 and a Trump presidency looks like.
You never know what influences voters. This could make some Republicans pause - not hard core MAGA.
Our MAGAs are just now hearing about Project 2025. They dont like what they are hearing.
Javaman
(64,312 posts)Celebrity Winner should have her case over turned then.
But we know the odds of that
LetMyPeopleVote
(166,966 posts)Hotler
(13,364 posts)Really wants control bad.
SupportSanity
(1,489 posts)With all cameras on the RNC convention, it's another chance to tell the world that they are "right" and strong.
and it gets Canon off the hook.
See, it works out for everybody. If you're republican.
How awful.
Martin Eden
(14,671 posts)Her objective is to delay the trial to help TFG win the election.
That's her path to career advancement, despite egregiously unsound decisions.
DemocraticPatriot
(5,410 posts)so she chooses this time to dismiss the case, which she has wanted to do from the beginning---
no doubt thinking that sympathy for Trump over the assassination attempt
will lesson the push-back against this action
more than at any other possible time....
She should be "removed" from her judicial seat....
I don't know how that could happen, and I don't much care how.