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suegeo

(3,026 posts)
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 05:38 PM Jul 2024

REVEALED: Trump campaign secret data on gunman's family

Source: Channel 4 News I think out of Great Britain?

The family of Trump's would-be assassin Thomas Crooks was among millions of voters profiled by Trump's 2016 presidential campaign

The owner of the rifle used to shoot at Donald Trump had been identified by the former president's campaign as a strong republican, likely gun owner and "hunter", as revealed today by Channel 4 News.

In 2016 the Trump campaign built a database profiling millions of voters in key battleground states - including the family of Trump's would-be assassin Thomas Crooks.

Read more: https://www.channel4.com/news/revealed-trump-campaign-secret-data-on-gunmans-family



A troubled loner, 20 years old, brain not fully developed yet. What "friends" took him under their wing, into their group, at the gun club he frequented, or commentors in the YouTube Channel, the one on his t-shirt.
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REVEALED: Trump campaign secret data on gunman's family (Original Post) suegeo Jul 2024 OP
But, but, but he was groomed by a woke bumper sticker he saw... rubbersole Jul 2024 #1
I question this Lulu KC Jul 2024 #2
I believe there is more to come out. MOMFUDSKI Jul 2024 #3
Channel 4 News has approached the Trump campaign for comment. suegeo Jul 2024 #6
They aren't going to comment on scores or even eight year old surveys LeftInTX Jul 2024 #13
Do you honestly think they profiled a 12 year old boy? That would have been his age in 2016 Bev54 Jul 2024 #4
The first line of the article says, "The family of Trump's would-be assassin..." sybylla Jul 2024 #8
The 2016 data went somewhere to some other sick group. It didn't disappear. suegeo Jul 2024 #20
Trump's secret data on all likely gun owners. C_U_L8R Jul 2024 #5
KICK suegeo Jul 2024 #7
Nobody hunts with an AK47 or whatever assault weapons. 2naSalit Jul 2024 #9
I have questioned this, too Lulu KC Jul 2024 #16
That's all they can... 2naSalit Jul 2024 #17
It's so you can penetrate the deer's body armor... blugbox Jul 2024 #21
So how do you know if someone is a gun owner kwolf68 Jul 2024 #10
His dad could well have been an NRA member and FailureToCommunicate Jul 2024 #11
I don't think this is breaking news. LeftInTX Jul 2024 #12
In 2016, the kid was only 12! They should be looking at the parents FakeNoose Jul 2024 #14
See reply 8 SilasSouleII Jul 2024 #15
The BBC Linda ladeewolf Jul 2024 #18
A Link Between NRA and Cambridge Analytica suegeo Jul 2024 #19

Lulu KC

(8,168 posts)
2. I question this
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 05:49 PM
Jul 2024

Partly because I don't trust Trump OR his data, but his dad's a registered Libertarian, his mom's a registered Democrat. Thomas is the only one in the fam registered as a Republican. I'm wondering if Trump's campaign didn't get something mixed up just because Dad does seem to be into guns. But I know Democrats (well.....one) who is an avid hunter and is into guns. That part of the country is big on hunting.

 

MOMFUDSKI

(7,080 posts)
3. I believe there is more to come out.
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 05:51 PM
Jul 2024

We are dealing with a desperate felon who is deathly afraid of prison. Just ask Chris Christie

suegeo

(3,026 posts)
6. Channel 4 News has approached the Trump campaign for comment.
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 06:18 PM
Jul 2024

But apparently the campaign is in total lockdown. Anybody who talks will be fired.
Why the lockdown?

LeftInTX

(32,811 posts)
13. They aren't going to comment on scores or even eight year old surveys
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 08:41 PM
Jul 2024

They will base scores on likely gun ownership etc. Hard data would be belonging to a gun club. They may have replied to surveys. They may have attended events etc.

It's like, "likely speaks Spanish". However, that category is based on last name. So you can have someone who speaks Spanish with an Anglo surname and vice versa.

Scores are calculated via proprietary methods. They aren't evidence and are commonly utilized by advertisers. For instance if someone has a score as a gun owner, except to see ads for Academy etc.

Bev54

(12,669 posts)
4. Do you honestly think they profiled a 12 year old boy? That would have been his age in 2016
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 06:10 PM
Jul 2024

sybylla

(8,655 posts)
8. The first line of the article says, "The family of Trump's would-be assassin..."
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 07:39 PM
Jul 2024

I don't think anyone read that, or the OP's comments, and thought they were talking about a 12yo child.

The point is in serious rebuttal to the GQP claims that the kid was not a conservative. The evidence is piling up that he grew up in a conservatively-led household and there hasn't been one classmate or neighbor to say he wasn't conservative as an adult.

suegeo

(3,026 posts)
20. The 2016 data went somewhere to some other sick group. It didn't disappear.
Wed Jul 17, 2024, 11:58 AM
Jul 2024

What happened to the campaign data after 2016?
How was the data used in subsequent years?

Senator Richard Blumenthal wanted to know that too. I wonder why he penned a letter on Sept. 30, 2022 to the National Shooting Sports Foundation.

I have great curiosity what the Shooting Sports response was.


https://www.blumenthal.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/093022nssfcambridgeanalyticaletter.pdf

NSSF is a trade organization made up of all the gun manufacturers selling in
the US. Each year, they run a large campaign aimed at ‘voter education’. They call
it voter education to avoid the corporate proxy tax by directly endorsing any
candidates and focusing on issues. Pat O’Malley, our contact with access to the
money, has been running this campaign for them since 2002 and it has been almost
entirely direct mail. Pat was leveraging a database of fire arms [sic] manufacturing
warranty cards (collected by the fire arms companies) to determine his targeting in
key states (millions of people, if they bought a gun, and what kind of gun they
bought).


Direct mail. No electronic trail.

Please describe what happened to the database of gun owners CA collected after the
election and the steps that were taken to protect this sensitive information from misuse or
unauthorized disclosure.


CA is Cambridge Analytica

Please provide a comprehensive list of all individuals or entities to whom NSSF has
provided information to regarding gunowners’ firearm purchases or warranty
registrations, including any similar engagements to the NSSF-CA engagement, for voter
education, voter registration, or election work after the 2016 election cycle.

C_U_L8R

(47,694 posts)
5. Trump's secret data on all likely gun owners.
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 06:10 PM
Jul 2024

The magats have their deep state paranoia pointed in the wrong direction. They are the target as well as the harvest.

Lulu KC

(8,168 posts)
16. I have questioned this, too
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 10:48 PM
Jul 2024

About the person I know who hunts and has weird guns. Could they have them to use at target practice or something? (Now I'm thinking that person I knew was really weird and I'm so gun-ignorant I had no idea.)

2naSalit

(97,351 posts)
17. That's all they can...
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 10:51 PM
Jul 2024

Use them for, legally.

The purpose of that style of gun is to kill people, it was intended to be used as a weapon of war.

Has NO purpose in the general population of a civil society.

kwolf68

(8,117 posts)
10. So how do you know if someone is a gun owner
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 08:15 PM
Jul 2024

I have guns, have had them my entire life. Have not shot in 30 years, but they were guns my dad and I collected and did target shooting, WW2 guns. How would anyone know I have them?

FailureToCommunicate

(14,547 posts)
11. His dad could well have been an NRA member and
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 08:26 PM
Jul 2024

certainly that database would have been available to TFGs campaign.

LeftInTX

(32,811 posts)
12. I don't think this is breaking news.
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 08:35 PM
Jul 2024

Parties and campaigns do modeling and scores. This is nothing new. The data is from 2016. You may want to post in general discussion.

FakeNoose

(37,948 posts)
14. In 2016, the kid was only 12! They should be looking at the parents
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 09:48 PM
Jul 2024

I'll bet the parents are the source of most of his craziness, unless he ran away from home as a pre-teen.

Linda ladeewolf

(973 posts)
18. The BBC
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 11:55 PM
Jul 2024

Says that the RNC has a database that contains information on every gun owner. They use it to troll for money and votes.

suegeo

(3,026 posts)
19. A Link Between NRA and Cambridge Analytica
Wed Jul 17, 2024, 10:44 AM
Jul 2024
https://www.everytown.org/press/a-link-between-nra-and-cambridge-analytica/

So, it appears that the NRA has had a working relationship with Cambridge Analytica. Will the NRA come clean and explain the full extent of Cambridge Analytica’s work for the NRA, or work on NRA campaigns?

This also raises the fact that most of the money spent by the NRA to elect Trump was spent by an arm of the organization that is not required to disclose its donors, and according to McClatchy, NRA spending may have exceeded $70 million during the 2016 election.


So, did the collusion between Cambridge Analytica and the NRA morph into some other sinister plot to use gun data in say 2020? to target young, brain-not-fully-developed-yet, loners?
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