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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 10:45 AM Dec 2012

Russia: The US Is Trying To Start Another Cold War

Source: Business Insider

Russia has accused the US of trying to start a new Cold War after Congress passed a law banning Russians linked to serious human rights abuses from entering America.

Moscow furiously claimed that the new law, which also bars blacklisted Russians from owning US land and using the banking system, was evidence of a "vindictive desire" to damage Russia's world standing.

"Apparently, Washington has forgotten what year this is and still thinks the Cold War is going on," the Russian foreign ministry said on its official Twitter account. It added that the move would "adversely affect the prospects of bilateral cooperation" between the two powers.

Sergei Lavrov, the foreign minister, later said Russia would respond by introducing its own visa ban for US human rights abuses.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-the-us-is-trying-to-start-another-cold-war-2012-12#ixzz2ENTAuDhi

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David__77

(23,421 posts)
1. The US never stopped waging cold war against Russia.
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 11:05 AM
Dec 2012

With Yeltsin, they had a compliant puppet to do their dirty work for them. Putin is marginally better, but not much.

fleur-de-lisa

(14,627 posts)
2. Does this mean we don't already ban human rights abusers from entering our country?
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 11:05 AM
Dec 2012

Regardless of their country of origin? I just assumed . . .

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
6. My thoughts exactly.
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 11:27 AM
Dec 2012

And the list (American human rights violators) goes on and on. We have the many politicians who have trampled human rights, mostly for profit. We have thousands of capitalists whose livelihood IS human rights violations. I would love to see these criminals arrested instead of being able to enjoy their narcissistic jet-setting lifestyles.
What an example that would be for other criminals emulating the scum and profiting from misery. Actually, the CEO's of our for-profit health care insurance and other bottom feeders should be deemed criminal also.
Another cold war = massive profits for the MIC and others...profit at any cost.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
9. You forgot,
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:14 PM
Dec 2012

we have some in Congress, that don't want anyone intefering in U.S. affairs. Especially the Republicans when they threatened the U.N. during our recent elections.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
3. Well, the nukes we haven't taken out of Europe may have something to do with that belief.
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 11:10 AM
Dec 2012

Last edited Fri Dec 7, 2012, 12:32 PM - Edit history (1)

HRC needs to accept that we're not fighting Stalin or Brezhnev anymore.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
5. What missiles might those be?
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 11:20 AM
Dec 2012

we no longer have nuclear capable missile in Europe. We do have nuclear weapons but they are free fall bombs - and we are presently negotiating with NATO to remove them.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
7. nukes, not missiles. I'll correct the post.
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 12:31 PM
Dec 2012

Still, is it really necessary to treat Russia as anything but simply another country these days?

(on edit) the post is now corrected.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
10. I don't see how this is starting another Cold War
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:18 PM
Dec 2012

nor do I see how it's any different from barring, say, Liberians or Congolese or Serbians accused of serious human rights abuses. It's a standard immigration question: have you participated in war crimes, genocide, crimes against humanity, or terrorism? Persons answering "yes" are denied entry; persons known to international law enforcement to be in one of those categories are also denied entry (this is why Henry Kissinger had to be very careful about where he travelled, for instance).

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
12. This is actually a GOOD thing, believe it or not:
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:24 PM
Dec 2012

Read this part carefully:

after Congress passed a law banning Russians linked to serious human rights abuses from entering America.


This is a good thing, folks. Why are the Russians so upset? And in fact, I believe they have every right to ban human rights abusers from their country as well, including from our own.

Again, what's the problem here?

LeftInTX

(25,376 posts)
14. The legislation is redundant anyway
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 04:04 PM
Dec 2012

From the article:

President Barack Obama had hoped to prevent yesterday's passage of the new human rights law, in an effort to avoid enraging Moscow. He insisted that he was already empowered to blacklist Russian human rights abusers by executive order.
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