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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:22 AM Dec 2012

Kerry Is Pick for Secretary of State, Official Says

Source: New York Times



WASHINGTON — President Obama plans to nominate Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts as secretary of state, a senior administration official said, succeeding Hillary Rodham Clinton and putting in place the first member of his second-term national security team.

The appointment of Mr. Kerry, a Massachusetts Democrat and his party’s former presidential nominee in 2004, has been widely expected since last week, when Susan E. Rice, the ambassador to the United Nations, asked Mr. Obama to withdraw her candidacy for the post.

Ms. Rice had come under weeks of attack from Republicans in Congress over her role in the aftermath of the deadly attack on the United States mission in Benghazi, Libya. Mr. Kerry, as chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, oversaw a hearing on Benghazi on Thursday, at which the State Department came under renewed criticism for its failure to respond to requests for additional security in Libya.

The decision by Mr. Obama, expected to be announced early Friday afternoon, comes at a time when Mrs. Clinton has been recovering from a concussion suffered earlier this month. Mrs. Clinton, who has long said she would leave the post after Mr. Obama’s first term, is not expected to attend the announcement.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/22/us/politics/kerry-is-pick-for-secretary-of-state-official-says.html

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Kerry Is Pick for Secretary of State, Official Says (Original Post) onehandle Dec 2012 OP
Exactly what John McCain wanted when he bashed Susan Rice. Eric J in MN Dec 2012 #1
Don't worry...we'll work hard (again) to make sure that doesn't happen FailureToCommunicate Dec 2012 #6
The Rapeuglicans Will Spend Millions to Take This Seat AndyTiedye Dec 2012 #19
They will spend millions in vain. We will win. Don't you worry. Fearless Dec 2012 #44
Not sure how many did - as Kerry had a strong staff himself karynnj Dec 2012 #46
It was between 1/3 and 2/3rds Fearless Dec 2012 #47
Thanks, I was just surprised that Kerry would have that many open slots karynnj Dec 2012 #76
It's not that he did necessarily Fearless Dec 2012 #77
He has to run again in 2014, if he wins karynnj Dec 2012 #45
I've heard Joe Kennedy come to surface .. what do you guys think? YOHABLO Dec 2012 #64
Not Joe. GoCubsGo Dec 2012 #65
The key word is "rape"... leftlibdem420 Dec 2012 #78
That graphic is perfect.. thanks FailureToCommunicate n/m Cha Dec 2012 #82
Thanks. Obama's tribute to Senator Inouye was sure powerful FailureToCommunicate Dec 2012 #87
It was magnificent! Cha Dec 2012 #94
I knew this news was about to drop when I read on HuffPo Ben Affleck was thinking about running for davidwparker Dec 2012 #37
Obama should not appoint anybody until their replacement is ready to go. _Liann_ Dec 2012 #103
Dammit... truebrit71 Dec 2012 #2
Do you really have to ask? pscot Dec 2012 #28
I have such a mixed response duhneece Dec 2012 #3
Obama had not necessarily made his choice - that is what he said when he was defending Rice karynnj Dec 2012 #48
Baloney - Rice was never Obama's first choice. Kerry was his choice in 2008 and still today. blm Dec 2012 #54
OH, you are spot on! n/t wisteria Dec 2012 #67
Exactly. I understood why President Obama chose Hillary Clinton over John Kerry, BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #81
EXACTLY - the handwringing at this point is amateur-hour, imo. blm Dec 2012 #101
I agree 100%. And yet there's a lot of it going on BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #107
Why? Stuckinthebush Dec 2012 #4
This is probably his "retirement" preparation job JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2012 #15
Did you ever consider that John Kerry want to serve his county in a new way? wisteria Dec 2012 #68
I considered that Stuckinthebush Dec 2012 #74
Why? Because Kerry wanted the job so bad that he could taste it. Beacool Dec 2012 #32
Again...why? Stuckinthebush Dec 2012 #73
Ambition? Power? Beacool Dec 2012 #75
There goes that Senate seat. blueclown Dec 2012 #5
What are the odds someone as awful as Coakley will get nominated again? ButterflyBlood Dec 2012 #11
And that the Democratic Party stays asleep at the bar. Mass Dec 2012 #13
I have wondered the same thing. razorman Dec 2012 #20
Kerry might have been looking to retire someday soon. alfredo Dec 2012 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author politicasista Dec 2012 #41
We could have found another good candidate for the SOS job and appointed him or her. ladjf Dec 2012 #104
So much handwringing..... blkirish03 Dec 2012 #7
Was he playing checkers when Jan Brewer became governor? blueclown Dec 2012 #10
Can you name someone better qualified for the SOS job? demwing Dec 2012 #53
I'm sure he is one of the better persons for the job. blueclown Dec 2012 #56
If the Senate majority hung on Kerry's seat I'd agree demwing Dec 2012 #59
Moves Wiltal Dec 2012 #52
I understand the concern, but this is bigger than a single Senate seat Democat Dec 2012 #8
There are also men and women who have worked at the State Dept for decades Eric J in MN Dec 2012 #29
I'm surprised so many Dems are still so unaware of all the heavy lifting Kerry did for State Dept blm Dec 2012 #57
Obviously, their concerns are focused closer to home and are shortsighted. n/t wisteria Dec 2012 #69
John Kerry got to be a US Senator and a presidential candidate Eric J in MN Dec 2012 #96
Why on earth would 'reward' be the requirement for the JOB of SoS, Eric? blm Dec 2012 #100
None of those things were "given" to him karynnj Dec 2012 #102
He will be easily (perhaps unanimously) confirmed Freddie Stubbs Dec 2012 #9
Good choice. As a MA resident, I would hope everybody stop the handwringing now. we dont need it. Mass Dec 2012 #12
I agree! MBS Dec 2012 #18
Yes. We NEED his expertise... YvonneCa Dec 2012 #22
... politicasista Dec 2012 #27
+1 n/t wisteria Dec 2012 #70
+1. MA should be very proud of Sen Kerry. I know, I am. Kahuna Dec 2012 #85
Oh great Glaisne Dec 2012 #14
If the Democrats nominate a disaster like Coakley again ButterflyBlood Dec 2012 #21
We won't. Fearless Dec 2012 #51
Probably true, if we say we lost before we even started. Mass Dec 2012 #24
Brown led Warren by 17 points in March 2012. NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #43
Well, he DID win the seat before.......... socialist_n_TN Dec 2012 #60
True, but then he lost after people had a chance to see him NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #61
Susan Rice for U.S. Senator from Massachusetts! nt valerief Dec 2012 #16
She lives in DC, so that's not happening ButterflyBlood Dec 2012 #23
A little thing like residence never stopped Mittfalca! valerief Dec 2012 #26
Beyond horrible in so many ways........nft plethoro Dec 2012 #17
well thanks for clearly stating your reasons demwing Dec 2012 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author politicasista Dec 2012 #25
Wow.... I'm dumbfounded by the negative responses here. harmonicon Dec 2012 #30
" " " " n/t MBS Dec 2012 #33
Absolutely true. n/t wisteria Dec 2012 #71
Bold choice......... Beacool Dec 2012 #31
Perfect pick. allrevvedup Dec 2012 #34
Hope they aren't too mad politicasista Dec 2012 #35
"To whom much is given, much is expected." allrevvedup Dec 2012 #49
True politicasista Dec 2012 #50
Yes, he has served Mass and our country well. wisteria Dec 2012 #72
War Hero Reporting For Duty JSwaggert Dec 2012 #36
The Army guys are so excited. sammy27932003 Dec 2012 #108
Kerry will make an EXCELLENT SoS. Yes there is the Senate seat and not that it should be ignored, NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #38
Now to see which Rep will try to filibuster. alfredo Dec 2012 #39
Well, they didn't filibuster Hillary and they hate her more than anyone (except maybe Obama now) NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #42
I don't trust them one bit. alfredo Dec 2012 #58
Neither do I. NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #62
I'm hoping 2014 will show them that redrawn congressional lines aren't alfredo Dec 2012 #63
Yeah!!!!!!! And, lets get this straight right now, Kerry was always the first choice. wisteria Dec 2012 #66
Yeah wisteria! You... YvonneCa Dec 2012 #79
Thanks n/t wisteria Dec 2012 #80
I believe that too. If not for Hillary, Kerry would have been appointed in 2008. Kahuna Dec 2012 #84
+1 n/t wisteria Dec 2012 #89
Good! I have no doubt that he is PBO's first choice because Cha Dec 2012 #83
totally agree! MBS Dec 2012 #86
Absoulutely on both comments! n/t wisteria Dec 2012 #91
+1 n/t wisteria Dec 2012 #90
Not worth a Senate seat Joey Liberal Dec 2012 #88
Then you do not understand foreign policy. n/t wisteria Dec 2012 #92
Or, you might not understand domestic policy. nt ladjf Dec 2012 #105
Let us not forget: Susan Rice herself put the kibosh on her nom... pink-o Dec 2012 #93
the administration was moving toward Kerry even before Rice pulled out. wisteria Dec 2012 #95
Boo! ciking724 Dec 2012 #97
Whatever. wisteria Dec 2012 #98
Humble question DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #99
You had me agreeing with you until you mentioned Huffington. wisteria Dec 2012 #106

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
1. Exactly what John McCain wanted when he bashed Susan Rice.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:41 AM
Dec 2012

Now Scott Brown (R-MA) can run for Senate in a special election. Which is how he got into the Senate last time.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,014 posts)
6. Don't worry...we'll work hard (again) to make sure that doesn't happen
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:56 AM
Dec 2012

Scott Brown is damaged goods. Many more in Mass. know his true colors. For example Brown only came out in favor of (some) gun control after Sandy Hook. And his whole "moderate" persona, vapid.

There are some interesting Dems who might run...

Plus, I'm guessing the Koch Bros won't be quite as eager to waste their $$ on that loser next time around

AndyTiedye

(23,500 posts)
19. The Rapeuglicans Will Spend Millions to Take This Seat
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:12 PM
Dec 2012

This could cost us the Senate in 2014.

Yes we have some Democrats who might be able to beat him, maybe, if everything goes our way.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
44. They will spend millions in vain. We will win. Don't you worry.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:55 PM
Dec 2012

The Warren organization is still warm... we have a head start. And we will build on that. Don't forget that when Kennedy died, a lot of his staff moved to Kerry. We have them too now. This will not be a problem.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
46. Not sure how many did - as Kerry had a strong staff himself
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:59 PM
Dec 2012

Many Kerry and Kennedy staff people went to work for first the Obama campaign then the administration.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
47. It was between 1/3 and 2/3rds
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:07 PM
Dec 2012

I forget the exact statistic. There was a Boston Globe article about it years ago. Can't find the thing now though.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
77. It's not that he did necessarily
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:59 PM
Dec 2012

But the opportunity arose for people to move on and in some cases to retire. Some other MA campaigns also picked a few up, notably Deval Patrick and Barney Frank if I remember correctly.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
45. He has to run again in 2014, if he wins
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:56 PM
Dec 2012

That means that after around another year, he is up again and the SAME ARGUMENT that the control of the Senate is at stake will be used against him, just like it was in 2012.

 

leftlibdem420

(256 posts)
78. The key word is "rape"...
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:27 AM
Dec 2012

Hang Scott Brown or whatever fuckwit the GOPissants run in MA with Akin and Mourdock.

davidwparker

(5,397 posts)
37. I knew this news was about to drop when I read on HuffPo Ben Affleck was thinking about running for
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:05 PM
Dec 2012

the senate. No seat would be available if Kerry wasn't sure he was going to be the nominee.

_Liann_

(377 posts)
103. Obama should not appoint anybody until their replacement is ready to go.
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 05:12 PM
Dec 2012

When Obama picked Janet Napolitano to head Homeland Security, he put Jan Brewer into the governor's seat in Arizona.

There are lots of DEMOCRATS who are not holding important seats who could do the Sec of State job without turning an office over to the opposition.

OBAMA got ONE VOTE, same as you and me. It was DEMOCRATS who elected Obama, and democrat values need to be in the top offices.

Bipartisanship is NOT WHAT WE NEED. We need one party rule because America needs democratic thinking.

duhneece

(4,113 posts)
3. I have such a mixed response
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:44 AM
Dec 2012

Kerry's service to our country earned him this honor; however, the strategy of attacking Susan Rice to 'make room' for a Repub win makes it impossible for me to celebrate. Damn.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
48. Obama had not necessarily made his choice - that is what he said when he was defending Rice
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:09 PM
Dec 2012

Not to mention, there were likely at least 10 people - many of whom I would not know the names of - that could have been nominated. Would you have felt the same if Obama would have chosen Rice and people would have said that it was BECAUSE she was attacked and the media framed it as caving if he did not pick her.

Looking just at their experience, ability to work with the Senate, and diplomatic skills, it is easier to make the case that Kerry is clearly better. It is incontestable for the last two. So, where was Rice said to be better - demographics ( how's that for the reverse racism and sexism) and the fact that she is said to be a friend of the President. On the latter, do you really want to argue for cronyism?

This is not intended to disparage Rice, she is a brilliant,very ambitious woman, who has moved up fast in foreign policy circles - which shows that she is competent and she can get get along with the people she needed to get along with. She is also quite young and has the chance to change her reputation as abrasive and to establish better relations with the Senate. She then could be a clear choice for some future Democratic President.

blm

(113,061 posts)
54. Baloney - Rice was never Obama's first choice. Kerry was his choice in 2008 and still today.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:50 PM
Dec 2012

Obama went with those who were pushing for Clinton to be SoS, but, Obama relied on Kerry to do much of the heavy lifting the last 4 years in the most volatile regions. Clinton did, too.

Those who fell for the GOPs dog and pony show can thank corporate media for making it a bigger show.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
81. Exactly. I understood why President Obama chose Hillary Clinton over John Kerry,
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 03:23 AM
Dec 2012

considering the contentious primary and very hurt feelings, but I am pretty sure John Kerry had always been President Obama's first choice for SoS. John will be an exceptional SoS, and I'm not the least afraid that his senate seat is in any danger of going Republican. Aside from the fact that Senator-Elect Warren still has her team warm and ready to go, fresh off her huge win, and the OFA is still there.

I'm sure President Obama is not going to allow Brownie to slither his way back into the Senate this time.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
107. I agree 100%. And yet there's a lot of it going on
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 11:17 AM
Dec 2012

days after the announcement. It just blows my mind.

Stuckinthebush

(10,845 posts)
4. Why?
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:48 AM
Dec 2012

Why would he want that? WHy would he give up a Senate seat for a 4 year gig?

Why would the administration give McCain exactly what he wanted?

Kerry is great. He will be an amazing SOS. But, really? This is bad politics.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,340 posts)
15. This is probably his "retirement" preparation job
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:40 PM
Dec 2012

Unless he's planning another run at the White House, I'd guess he'll retire in four years, to try to be an "elder statesman" like Big Dog or Jimmy Carter. His wife is rich enough, he doesn't need the job.

It would be nice if he declined the job, to stay in the Senate.

 

wisteria

(19,581 posts)
68. Did you ever consider that John Kerry want to serve his county in a new way?
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:17 PM
Dec 2012

And, in a post where he can make a difference world wide?

Stuckinthebush

(10,845 posts)
74. I considered that
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:36 PM
Dec 2012

and I'm sure that is what he is telling himself but I have to believe that there are others who are as or more qualified and whose selection won't open up a senate seat.

Beacool

(30,249 posts)
32. Why? Because Kerry wanted the job so bad that he could taste it.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:01 PM
Dec 2012

Unlike Hillary who did everything she could to avoid taking the job and had to be convinced to accept it, Kerry has wanted to be SOS ever since he endorsed Obama in 2007.

Also, he's almost 70 years old and may want to retire after his SOS gig.

Stuckinthebush

(10,845 posts)
73. Again...why?
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:35 PM
Dec 2012

Why would he want that job? It is probably one of the hardest civilian jobs (aside from President) in the entire US government. At 70 you'd think he'd sit back and do his job as a Senator and retire after the next term.

SOS...that could kill him.

Beacool

(30,249 posts)
75. Ambition? Power?
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:24 PM
Dec 2012

Politicians are a different breed of people. Most folks who had such a long career, and as much money as he has, would probably want to chill out and enjoy the rest of their lives. Politicians are the exception. Senators usually drop dead, rather than retire.

blueclown

(1,869 posts)
5. There goes that Senate seat.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:55 AM
Dec 2012

Why?

Why?

Do we want another Jan Brewer? Scott Brown?

There are many other good candidates, why choose a sitting Senator?

razorman

(1,644 posts)
20. I have wondered the same thing.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:16 PM
Dec 2012

Why does President Obama keep raiding the senate for his cabinet picks? Sure, I understand that he was a senator, and that these people are familiar to him, but doesn't he consider the possible consequences of freeing up a senate seat held by a Dem? Granted, the odds of a Republican taking Kerry's seat in Mass. are slim, but the same thing was said when Senator Kennedy passed away. Why take the risk?

Response to alfredo (Reply #40)

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
104. We could have found another good candidate for the SOS job and appointed him or her.
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 06:17 PM
Dec 2012

Instead we are faced with a very iffy situation in the Senate. IMO this was a very reckless move by the President. The U.S. desperately needs enough control of the Senate to get some legislation passed.

blkirish03

(7 posts)
7. So much handwringing.....
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:00 PM
Dec 2012

Folks need to remember that Obama is playing Chess while everyone else in Washington is playing Checkers. Might this not open the door for Deval Patrick? He did have a high profile speaking assignment at the DNC which gave him a National Stage. Keep the faith, people.

blueclown

(1,869 posts)
10. Was he playing checkers when Jan Brewer became governor?
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:07 PM
Dec 2012

I'm tired of the chess, checkers meme. This is a short-sighted move that may cost us a Senate seat.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
53. Can you name someone better qualified for the SOS job?
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:48 PM
Dec 2012

I'm secure that Obama is selecting the best person for the job...

blueclown

(1,869 posts)
56. I'm sure he is one of the better persons for the job.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:51 PM
Dec 2012

But somebody like Samantha Power could be a good SOS and we wouldn't be at risk of losing a valuable senate seat.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
59. If the Senate majority hung on Kerry's seat I'd agree
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 06:35 PM
Dec 2012

but it doesn't, and Kerry is the best candidate

Democat

(11,617 posts)
8. I understand the concern, but this is bigger than a single Senate seat
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:04 PM
Dec 2012

Obama needs someone he can count on and John Kerry has earned a chance at this position (he is not getting younger). I also worry about the Senate seat, but there is more to look at than just the seat.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
29. There are also men and women who have worked at the State Dept for decades
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:47 PM
Dec 2012

...who earned a chance at this position.

blm

(113,061 posts)
57. I'm surprised so many Dems are still so unaware of all the heavy lifting Kerry did for State Dept
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:54 PM
Dec 2012

and the WH the last 4 years.

Obama and Clinton relied heavily on Kerry this entire time, and it's amazing to me that so many who believe they are so on top of the news let the last 4 years of Kerry's quiet diplomatic leadership slip right past them.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
96. John Kerry got to be a US Senator and a presidential candidate
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 06:41 PM
Dec 2012

...and the husband of a millionaire.

He doesn't need more as a reward.

blm

(113,061 posts)
100. Why on earth would 'reward' be the requirement for the JOB of SoS, Eric?
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 03:28 PM
Dec 2012

Why would YOU believe he's being rewarded and not being tapped for his proven skills and effectiveness needed to perform a monumental task for the nation and the world?

I would say you have an odd view of the actual JOB.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
102. None of those things were "given" to him
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 04:12 PM
Dec 2012

He was not the media or party candidate when he ran his races for lt Governor or the first Senate run. (The same is true for the Presidential nomination) In all those races, he won by winning over voters one by one - convincing them that he was the best choice.

As to marrying a millionaire, he himself is a millionaire, while Teresa is likely a billionaire. It is great - for both of these two brilliant, purposeful people - that they found each other and married.

However, the SOS job is not a "gift" or a "reward". The reason he was considered is that there is no one - in either party - with the length of experience in foreign policy, vision and diplomatic temperament that he has. I note that you did not speak of "reward" when others spoke of Rice. It is hard to argue that she had the diplomatic temperament or the ability to work the Senate she did.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
12. Good choice. As a MA resident, I would hope everybody stop the handwringing now. we dont need it.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:27 PM
Dec 2012

The only way Brown wins this one is because we let him.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
18. I agree!
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:08 PM
Dec 2012

People need to stop with the fear and the wimpering the whining right now. I mean, good God, people: MA is one of the more reliable Dem. states. This is totally winnable. Brown is vulnerable, and he lost a lot of his "likability" points in the last election. As Mass said, Brown wins only if we let him.
People need to redirect the energy that they're wasting on fear and start WORKING RIGHT NOW to replace Sen. Kerry with a worthy Democratic senator. Luckily , the MA bench is deep. I can think of at least 3 good candidates. Now go out and support the nominee to the hilt.

YvonneCa

(10,117 posts)
22. Yes. We NEED his expertise...
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:19 PM
Dec 2012

...in this job. He will be excellent.

Congratulations, Mr. Secretary!

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
51. We won't.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:44 PM
Dec 2012

There are about a dozen or so names being floated in state right now. Some very famous, some well connected, and some both. She's not one of them.

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
43. Brown led Warren by 17 points in March 2012.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:41 PM
Dec 2012

He lost by 8 points eight months later.

Amazing how many are so terrified of Scott Brown.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
60. Well, he DID win the seat before..........
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 08:04 PM
Dec 2012

Maybe not terrified, but everybody has a right to be cautious.

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
61. True, but then he lost after people had a chance to see him
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 08:20 PM
Dec 2012

in action for two years.

I think we should be as cautious as we are with any open race. Nothing is certain in politics and we'll definitely need a good candidate. But Brown has a record now. He can't pull the moderate schtick like he could in 2010.

Response to onehandle (Original post)

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
30. Wow.... I'm dumbfounded by the negative responses here.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:53 PM
Dec 2012

My first thought reading the headline was "Yahoo!!" Kerry is perfect for the job, and probably should have been the pick in the first term as well.

politicasista

(14,128 posts)
35. Hope they aren't too mad
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:55 PM
Dec 2012

over this.

A respected DUer from MA gave an excellent post of how diva-like that state can be. Hope Uncle Ted is smiling somewhere. Hope they give him the respect they did Kennedy. Senator Kerry seemed better than people gave him credit for.

 

allrevvedup

(408 posts)
49. "To whom much is given, much is expected."
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:21 PM
Dec 2012

Mass has given some world-class pols so now we have high expectations!

 

wisteria

(19,581 posts)
72. Yes, he has served Mass and our country well.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:29 PM
Dec 2012

And, he has put up with a lot of nonsense thrown his way.

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
38. Kerry will make an EXCELLENT SoS. Yes there is the Senate seat and not that it should be ignored,
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:07 PM
Dec 2012

but just considering Kerry and his qualifications for SoS, he is a great choice.

I remember the many naysayers when Hillary was chosen in 2008.

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
42. Well, they didn't filibuster Hillary and they hate her more than anyone (except maybe Obama now)
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:39 PM
Dec 2012

She was confirmed 94-2.

So...I guess we'll see. I wouldn't put anything by those assholes.

alfredo

(60,074 posts)
63. I'm hoping 2014 will show them that redrawn congressional lines aren't
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 08:29 PM
Dec 2012

a replacement for patriotism.

 

wisteria

(19,581 posts)
66. Yeah!!!!!!! And, lets get this straight right now, Kerry was always the first choice.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:05 PM
Dec 2012

John Kerry was the obvious, and expected choice right after President Obama won reelection. It wasn't until McCain and his two or three other amegos interfered with lies and accusations against Susan Rice, that her name was floated BY THE PRESS, as being the front running. The President never nominated her, and his support was what any decent person would offer to someone under attack with accusations of lying, when they were innocent. Democrats had issues with Rice too.

Now stand back and watch Secretary Kerry excel in his new post.

Kahuna

(27,311 posts)
84. I believe that too. If not for Hillary, Kerry would have been appointed in 2008.
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 07:34 AM
Dec 2012

Not to mention, who does PBO owe more than Kerry? Kerry put Obama on the national stage in 2004 and supported him in 2008. Go Big John! I know you will do a kick ass job as SoS.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
83. Good! I have no doubt that he is PBO's first choice because
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 06:31 AM
Dec 2012

Senator Kerry has the best experience to be an excellent SOS.

If he had wanted Susan he wouldn't have let barking mccain undo it. And, I believe her when she stated she's happy where she is.

We can beat Brown.. I'm so happy for Senator Kerry.. he will be brilliant for our country and our Planet!

MBS

(9,688 posts)
86. totally agree!
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 07:38 AM
Dec 2012

Sen. Kerry is going to be a superb SoS.
And MA Dems will keep his Senate seat blue.

Joey Liberal

(5,526 posts)
88. Not worth a Senate seat
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 11:58 AM
Dec 2012

This was a poor decision. I like Kerry, but we need him in the Senate. We don't need Scott Brown back again.

pink-o

(4,056 posts)
93. Let us not forget: Susan Rice herself put the kibosh on her nom...
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:26 PM
Dec 2012

Not because of anything to do with Benghazi but because she has a few million invested in the Keystone Pipeline oil company.

And if McCain and his angry white man ilk are crowing over Kerry's nom, then why do we care about their pathetic gloating? They're losers, and we all know they're losers. ITMT, they're gonna insure Kerry's confirmation goes smoothly, and we'll have an awesome Secy of State to follow up another awesome one.

And I have every confidence MA will send us a good, progressive Dem Senator in Kerry's place. So everybody wins!

 

wisteria

(19,581 posts)
95. the administration was moving toward Kerry even before Rice pulled out.
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:53 PM
Dec 2012

Last edited Sat Dec 22, 2012, 03:44 PM - Edit history (1)

White House's decision-making said support within the administration was moving toward Kerry even before Rice pulled out.


http://www.times-gazette.com/ap%20washington/2012/12/22/kerry-tapped-for-cabinet

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
99. Humble question
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 09:34 PM
Dec 2012

If we are not picking Kerry because we are scared of Scott Brown, isn't that another way of caving? After all, Susna Rice may have been capable, but she was a WAR HAWK, and some people might want to think about the fact that the GOP may have wanted to make sure that Obama picked a War hawk, rather than Kerry?

Yes, Scott Brown is a worry, though a lot more damage is done by people who are letting Brown, aka the guy that Liz Warren just beat, out to be some superman. Yes, we need to win that seat, though to be honest, our main focus needs to be the House, as they are the ones doing a lot of damage, doing the bidding of the tea Party. I am not denying the risks, but frankly, if we cannot pick a cabinet member, even ones that are qualified, based on what the GOP might do, we might as well give them a pass to yank our chain.

All the same, I do think while Kerry is well qualified to be SoS, there are enough people to fill that bill. I would go for a long shot..

Arianna Huffington.

Yes, I get annoyed at her for her centrists attacks in the supposedly liberal HUffpo, but I will admit, she can be a good diplomat.

 

wisteria

(19,581 posts)
106. You had me agreeing with you until you mentioned Huffington.
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 06:40 PM
Dec 2012

It takes a lot more to being SOS than just being diplomatic.

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