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.... a deranged killer takes out 20 babies and 6 teachers with an assault rifle, and poof, these creeps crawl out of the woodwork to buy all the assault rifles they can get their hands on. Every time there's a mass murder, gun manufacturers make a bundle of money. And of course Lapierre's public appearance yesterday helped it all along. All advertisement.
This is one sick fucking country. 
They need to be on a higher level of understanding. One way we can help is to provide as much proof that we, as liberals, accept the 2nd amendment as a bedrock right of citizenship. I've personally never heard of any rational liberal propose somehow bypassing, ignoring, or eliminating the 2nd amendment.
Liberals, much more than conservatives, from my experience, believe in the rule of law. Whether right or wrong, we need to know what the rules are and that that they will be static throughout the conversation.
The second amendment, in the worst of times, (which may be sooner than we think) is our final protection against tyranny. It is a right that we should never take lightly, nor allow to be taken from us without cause. In the meantime, people should just relax and try to stay pragmatic and detached from these worst case ideas. Things tend to work out better than our fears reflect.
Never fired or owned a firearm. That's me. You are you. We can still be friends.
I dont understand how solving a gun problem is rationalized by calling for more guns..
At this point there are too many guns to even think of banning them all,illegalizing assault rifles and high volume magazines is about all that can be hoped for and even then i doubt it will make much difference in Americas daily carnage.I dont see any viable solution, too many guns too many nut jobs ,America just has to accept the reality that its just too easy for nutters to get guns and lay waste to many innocents to solve their problems.
