DNC boots David Hogg and another vice chair from their roles
Source: Politico
Democratic National Committee members removed David Hogg his vice chair position discharging the 25-year-old activist and another vice chair from national party posts amid his threats to take on ineffective Democratic incumbents in primaries.
The virtual vote, which concluded on Wednesday and the results were obtained by POLITICO, vacated its two vice chair positions, stemming from a procedural complaint unrelated to Hoggs primary activities, and put forth a plan to hold a new election. Hogg and Pennsylvania state Rep. Malcolm Kenyatta must now run again for their positions next week.
The election offers a potential reset for a party thats dealt with a series of Hogg-related controversies in recent weeks.
In April, Hogg announced the group that he co-founded, Leaders We Deserve, planned to drop $20 million on safe-seat Democratic primaries, hoping to oust asleep-at-the-wheel Democrats. The move triggered a wave of anger from elected officials and DNC members alike, who vented that Hoggs role as a party leader conflicted with the decision to take on incumbents.
The internal drama exploded again over the weekend, when POLITICO reported on leaked audio from a DNC meeting in which Chair Ken Martin told Hogg and other DNC leaders that his leadership has suffered due to the clash. The vice chair, Martin said, had essentially destroyed any chance I have to show national leadership.
Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/11/hogg-vote-new-election-dnc-00401673
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cilla4progress
(26,344 posts)own
msongs
(71,431 posts)MichMan
(15,250 posts)Mysterian
(5,689 posts)Good deal for him.
Rebl2
(16,515 posts)He has a PAC where all the money goes to him with no oversight?
Mysterian
(5,689 posts)Jack Valentino
(2,296 posts)Is the leader of a PAC supposed to work without any salary ?
Mysterian
(5,689 posts)With only 28% of the money going to candidates.
He sure earned that hefty salary.
Jack Valentino
(2,296 posts)It would be a very small fraction of that.
Mysterian
(5,689 posts)of operation.
Rebl2
(16,515 posts)Of over $11 million the PAC took in, only around 28% of the PAC money went to democratic candidates. Is that an unusual low amount going to candidates or is that a normal amount.
mcar
(44,732 posts)Where did the rest of the money go?
Fla Dem
(26,784 posts)Actually to me it does not seem unreasonable. You have to pay salaries, taxes, rent, travel expenses, etc, all those expenses that support a very active campaign organization. The salary also does not seem terribly unreasonable.
So as I said while I have no idea what it takes to run a highly visible and active PAC, it would be good to see the expenses for other PAC's before I would make a judgement on the expenses and Hogg's salary.
FarPoint
(14,004 posts)who are throwing David out the door?
I wish to file my complaint.
cab67
(3,393 posts)I get the sense he was out of his depth in this particular position.
MichMan
(15,250 posts)Just agreeing that the election that he won was fraudulent and requiring a new election. He may very well win again.
Docreed2003
(18,274 posts)The DNC is complying with its own rules, they are holding a new election for vice chair, and Hogg is declining to run for that position.
LetMyPeopleVote
(164,684 posts)HoosierDebbie
(429 posts)cadoman
(1,333 posts)They usually know the rules better than they know their bibles and if you don't want to incur their wrath you must do everything perfectly.
I thought Hogg defended his approach well (citing historical precedent) and it's clear that it was a "rules for thee but not for me" sort of mindset among some in the committee. Maybe he'll get elected again but I think it's for the best if he focuses on his PAC.
ChrisW001
(1 post)Why did the DNC wait for so long before deciding they had broken their own rules for elections? That should be the sort of thing you notice right away. Or maybe they do it all the time so that if someone starts causing problems, they can say 'ooops, we ignored our own rules months ago, need to redo your election!'
Aren't the DNC voters the sitting members of congress, living POTUS and Veeps? They should know how voting rules work.
ificandream
(11,159 posts)The story was written terribly.
jaymac
(19 posts)Just bloody appoint another vice chair position. Kenyatta and Hogg are two young up and comers who should be encouraged, not vilified. isn't this what we complain about dems projects.....too many hoops and layers to be effective? too many requirements and studies need to get done before a project even starts? that is why young folks did not see the progress Biden's agenda was o accomplish but got slowed down to snail's pace?
appoint Ms. Free the a new vice chair.........let's get things rolling folks....
mahina
(19,808 posts)Please excuse me while I had to go dig in the sofa to find some money to give to David and Malcolm
et tu
(2,236 posts)wonder why young people chose to vote for
the other party????
My 2 20 something and friends are not happy with th DNC.
fucks the matter with the old geezer?
H2O Man
(76,928 posts)Or to register as independents, who outnumber Democrats today. The party needs to connect much better with the public. I'm not sure that the DNC puts as much effort into that, than trying to get republican support.
Buddyzbuddy
(1,011 posts)Like Biden, Franken and now Hogg.
ificandream
(11,159 posts)Seems like the writer was looking for an angle he didn't have.
LuvLoogie
(8,064 posts)But
flashman13
(1,282 posts)don't own their seats. If they can't defend their positions and actions they need to face primary challenges. Let the voters decide who represents their wants and desires. That is how democracy works.
gay texan
(3,011 posts)anyone call out the actions of a "Strongly worded letter"
This is a fucking street fight, all rules are off. Fucking cowards step aside
"Well this isn't the proper optics of political debate and this could ultimately harm the party on a whole" says the cherry picked (by committee) DNC spokesperson
STAND THE LITERAL FUCK UP FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN YOU FUCKING COWARDS
flashman13
(1,282 posts)creeksneakers2
(7,688 posts)Democrats are pretty much doing all they can. Hogg falsely claims they are sitting on their hands. He's going to hurt turn out and help the Fascists. I hate Hogg.
flashman13
(1,282 posts)BTW What happened to don't dis fellow Democrats?
creeksneakers2
(7,688 posts)Most of the votes against Trump are unanimous. They communicate what a problem Trump is. There are hundreds of court cases against him. Town halls have been held. The Supreme Court and Fascists fixed it so Trump can get away with murder. His followers mentally block out the truth. The best hope is taking back on or both houses of Congress in 2026. Hogg is working AGAINST that.
https://www.projectveritas.com/news/part-two-dnc-leader-david-hogg-slams-pelosis-too-well-timed-stock-trades
creeksneakers2
(7,688 posts)Hogg and his supporters are the ones dissing.
What do you think Democrats should do that they aren't doing? Hogg's website and all the rest never say that.
I agree with you that things don't look good for America.
HoosierDebbie
(429 posts)Democrats need something other than the same-old, same-old. If new voices and new tactics don't rise to the occasion, it is all over. Politicians who aren't making waves and fighting the traditional avenues will not help any of us. Of 212 Democrats in the House of Representatives and how many have made their mark? How many do we recognize for their advocacy? I pay quite a bit of attention to House business and I don't think I could name more than 25 who fight for their constituents. This is why I think the younger generations should take over for a lot of do-nothing, seemingly-tenured incumbents.
In the house, 56 democrats are over 70 years old. 30 republicans. In the current congress, only 16% of House and Senate members are younger than 45. (New York Times from June 4 of this year "The Age Issue".
creeksneakers2
(7,688 posts)What do you expect them to do? Thanks to Hogg and others the lies that they aren't fighting are spreading and will hurt turnout. These falsehoods help Republicans. I bet half the money Hogg got came from Republicans.
angrychair
(10,712 posts)This sentence encapsulates why some people balk about the DNC at times, including our young Mr. Hogg.
Now I perfectly understand that the mission of the DNC is Democratic majorities but that is a very different mission than rubber-stamping incumbents which that line would clearly imply to the average listener. We can't say we need a different approach then punish people for taking a new approach. My only rub with what he did is that as a DNC vice-chair he should not be publicly directing or orchestrating a non-DNC PAC to do anything.
What we should be doing is fielding the best candidates for the job.
Sitting back and running on autopilot while recycling the old guard is not going to cut it anymore.
I can hear the pushback already. I'm not saying all old members of Congress or incumbents are bad. I am saying that being an incumbent should never be an automatic golden ticket to DNC endorsement/support.
MuirHero
(31 posts)red dog 1
(31,195 posts)
Mawspam2
(964 posts)We need new blood who can speak beyond Facebook or old media like Newsweek.
creeksneakers2
(7,688 posts)Happy Hoosier
(8,954 posts)Just wondering. If the peopl in the DNC now aren;t responsible for it, who is?
In any case, no friggin' money for the DNC until they get their shit together. I'll fund individual candidates.
creeksneakers2
(7,688 posts)The responsibility is theirs.
DonCoquixote
(13,887 posts)it is also theirs..
We at the least need to act like Mitch when he tried his best to make oabma a one term president. Instead..some dems who know better vote with the gop
creeksneakers2
(7,688 posts)If our own people weren't turning our voters against us.
kimbutgar
(25,318 posts)creeksneakers2
(7,688 posts)We had lower turnout among younger voters in 2024. Pollsters found they stayed home because they believe Democrats weren't doing enough to stop Trump. Hogg was recruited for a spot at the DNC because he told them he could win back those voters. But all Hogg has done is spread the message that Democrats aren't doing anything so stop Trump, the same thing that kept them from voting last time. He's doing the exact opposite of what he promised.
The longer Hogg is around the fewer votes we'll get.
betsuni
(27,995 posts)and stopping progress and progressives, not stopping Trump/everything bad and on and on. Then claim gee whiz innocence for the result. Same thing as Republicans do, turn Democrats into such fictional monsters nobody would even consider voting for them. At the most you might get a lesser of two evils.
If anyone objects to this demonization, the insulting name-calling begins, they pretend you hate progressive policy. People like Hogg and (can't say the names) have the wonderful opportunity to inspire young people and get progressive things done and instead they inspire cynicism and hate of the populist Us vs Them. Such a waste.
Sucha NastyWoman
(3,011 posts)gay texan
(3,011 posts)"I have no idea why we can't connect with younger people, the polls say they hate us!!!" says completely f-ing clueless DNC head...
JFC this is NOT what we fucking need at this moment.
BARTCOP had it right. We are the masters of backstabbing. AOC needs to be organizing this fucking shitshow....at least she knows how to fucking street fight
Dyedinthewoolliberal
(16,118 posts)I wish he was here now..........
gay texan
(3,011 posts)NJCher
(40,338 posts)snip
What To Know
A Quinnipiac University Poll of 1,265 registered voters nationwide, conducted between June 5 and June 9, found that disapproval of Democrats in Congress has increased since a February poll.
Seventy percent of participants said they disapprove of how Democrats are handling their jobs in Congress, while 21 percent approve. Among Democrats, 53 percent disapprove, and 41 percent approve. Just 9 percent of Republicans approve of Democrats' performance, while 84 percent disapprove.
A similar Quinnipiac University poll of 1,039 registered voters in February found that 68 percent of participants disapproved of congressional Democrats and 52 percent disapproved of congressional Republicans.
snip
https://www.newsweek.com/disapproval-rating-democrats-congress-poll-2084270
BidenRocks
(1,632 posts)They shoot it and stick it in body orifices.
Are they on our side? I don't think they speak for me.
Out with the old and ineffective.
Pass the torch and fuck your divisive rules!
I support new ideas.
Dumping David Hogg was really ignorant!
Don't ask me for money either DNC!
LT Barclay
(2,968 posts)I have this from someone who was close to the political organizer who helped secure the African-American vote in Arkansas for Bill Clinton in his run for governor and for president back in 1992. Someone here probably knows his name.
He was told that it is all about the donors.
creeksneakers2
(7,688 posts)He's there to help Republicans.
DonCoquixote
(13,887 posts)and trashes aoc, Bernie, and any progressives, they are doing a fine job of dividing us.
creeksneakers2
(7,688 posts)For a short time he didn't get a fair shake on the debate schedule but that got fixed. When the E-mails got hacked the media reported that they found the DNC has screwed Bernie but all there was was a few of them saying negative things about him amongst themselves. That was understandable because Bernie kept making false accusations about the DNC. I went through every E-mail. Nothing. They didn't hurt Bernie. Bernie lost because he's too extreme.
I never heard of them doing anything to AOC.
Its the "progressives" that always screw the party, not the other way around. Many of them wouldn't vote for Hillary and some even hated her so much they voted for Trump. They cost us Al Gore and I've never seen a single one say that was a mistake. I've seen David Hogg is spreading those same lies and they'll peel off all they can in 2026 and try to keep us from getting a good shot at Trump.
That is why the right loves David Hogg. The Daily Signal is a publication of the Heritage Foundation, the same bozos who brought us project 2025. Look at how much the kiss Hogg's ass and play his game: i bet half that money Hogg has collected came from Republicans.
https://mail.dailysignal.com/p/david-hogg-s-sacrifice-at-the-altar-of-dei-shows-why-democrats-are-losing-young-men-5ae69cff3a2e2122
DonCoquixote
(13,887 posts)i bet half that money Hogg has collected came from Republicans.
creeksneakers2
(7,688 posts)went to after they were told they couldn't promote Bernie here after he lost the primary. Many there said they were voting for Trump. Some around here would remember if they read this.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/sanders-voters-helped-trump-win-white-house-could-they-do-n1145306
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/03/29/bernie-sanders-supporters-vote-trump-over-biden-poll/2936124001/
I can't prove where Hogg's money comes from. That's why I said "I bet." Republicans circulated Nader's nominating petition in PA. Here is a kiss ass piece from an outfit called the Daily Signal. Its run by the Heritage Foundation. You know, the folks who brough us Project 2025. They just love David Hogg.
https://mail.dailysignal.com/p/david-hogg-s-sacrifice-at-the-altar-of-dei-shows-why-democrats-are-losing-young-men-5ae69cff3a2e2122
MuirHero
(31 posts)I will continue to contribute directly to the campaigns of progressive candidates.
ILikePie92
(138 posts)Here is the DNC again pulling a future defeat from the jaws of victory.
Jack Valentino
(2,296 posts)RIGHT......
Jack Valentino
(2,296 posts)perhaps even taking on one of those "ineffective" Democratic incumbents.
creeksneakers2
(7,688 posts)like defunding the police he won't get elected anywhere. He'll succeed at convincing Democrats not to vote for whoever he challenges though, maybe costing us a seat.
Sneederbunk
(16,255 posts)ancianita
(40,637 posts)Kenyatta, who has been sharply critical of Hogg and the attention focused on him, said in a statement that he was grateful to his supporters and eager to move forward.
Democrats must be bold and meet this moment, he said. This is the urgent work in front of us: to stand up to authoritarianism, to protect care and dignity, and to make life better for the people who count on us.
Cha
(311,840 posts)Hogg's place... And I hope Kalyn Free wins the other Chair. She's the one who sued the DNC to get another election.. and happy she did.
Found on Bing under Who is Kalyn Free..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalyn_Free
Mahalo, ancianita..


Nixie
(17,700 posts)a reason Hogg didnt want to face such a challenge to his facade. Were in very good hands with Kenyatta.
Picaro
(2,030 posts)Old guard circles the wagons. The circular firing squad will be vaulting over the horizon to save the day at any moment. Maybe theyll primary AOC. Thatll fix it.
betsuni
(27,995 posts)the national convention becomes a wild conspiracy theory resulting in people screaming about, like, totally breaking up with Democrats.
Knock yourselves out, Republicans love it!
Jirel
(2,284 posts)The party had a real shot to cull some DINOs. Now it threw that away, and instead of smart new blood at the helm we have a middle aged whiner who failed upwards.
BeyondGeography
(40,468 posts)I will continue to follow Hogg with interest and to donate to him, his DNC opponents not so much.
Oopsie Daisy
(5,879 posts)This BS about primarying Democrats in "safe districts" was nothing more than "Justice Democrats" and "Our Revolution" and others who adhere to and promote their anti-Democrat philosophies, trying to hamstring and sabotage the party. FTS! 🖕🤬💩
betsuni
(27,995 posts)It's projection when they say Democrats don't take Republicans seriously. They think Republican voters will quickly join the revolution of the 99% against the 1% when the mean old Democrats who caused or didn't stop their "economic anxiety" are purged.
Nixie
(17,700 posts)on white men and the war on oligarchs got us an old, white oligarch as president. Its always about something else than what is right in front of us. Looks like the experienced Democrats know things they dont.
DonCoquixote
(13,887 posts)we just give the old white oligarchs whatever they want and be thankful for our gruel?
Snoopy 7
(663 posts)This is why the dnc is against David, https://www.commondreams.org/news/dnc-2024, this article tells about the Progressive Movement and how they are trying to push the democratic party to help the working class. All the dnc is doing is trying to get the rich donars, who are not pro working class, to give them the millions of dollars that they currently possess...
ancianita
(40,637 posts)that one can hardly blame the leadership for chasing rich donors. It's Citizens United that's driving that, passed by a MAGA SCOTUS that has wanted their rich benefactor, Koch, to capture the republican votes under any false pretext.
If and when we ever win a presidential trifecta again Citizens United is here to stay, unfortunately.
IrishBubbaLiberal
(1,980 posts)The DNC is way too conservative
betsuni
(27,995 posts)Happy Hoosier
(8,954 posts)This was a VERY bad move, IMO.
Passages
(2,897 posts)travelingthrulife
(2,613 posts)Docreed2003
(18,274 posts)"DNC boots Hogg...and another vice chair".
First of all, they didn't "boot" anyone. This was a procedural move to allow a new vote to rectify a discrepancy in the previous election where the DNC failed to follow its own rules. Hogg isn't "booted", he would just be required to run again for his post...which he's said he's not going to consider.
Second, David Hogg this David Hogg that...Ask yourself why this dude is the only person being mentioned in the headlines. That "other vice chair" actually has a name and, fun fact, will be running for his seat in the redo election. Malcolm Kenyatta has a name...he actually has been working his ass off for the party since his election, unlike some folks who seem to prefer making an ass out of themselves on podcasts and the interview circuit.
These headlines are meant to sow distrust in the party and are playing to the same type of disunity some tried and successfully used in 2016, and in 2024 frankly. Don't stop at headlines folks. We have to be educated and understand what's actually going on and not fall for misinformation and spin.