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GJGCA

(204 posts)
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 12:42 PM Jun 2025

Iran is reeling from Israel's unprecedented attack - and it is only the start

Source: BBC

Israel's "Operation Rising Lion", as it calls its attack on Iran, is unprecedented. It is vastly more extensive and ambitious than anything that has come before, including the two missile and drone exchanges it had with Iran last year. For Iran, this is the biggest assault on its territory since the Iran-Iraq War of 1980-1988
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Iran is reeling and this may be only the first wave. There will be many more potential targets on Israel's hitlist, although some may be beyond its reach, buried deep underground in reinforced bases beneath solid rock.

Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg72ny4xeyo

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Iran is reeling from Israel's unprecedented attack - and it is only the start (Original Post) GJGCA Jun 2025 OP
This is exactly what happened to the Ukraine. Trump's fingerprints are all over it. live love laugh Jun 2025 #1
Pay attention. It's not The Ukraine NoRethugFriends Jun 2025 #30
And the fascist right couldn't be more pleased - in Israel and the US. J_William_Ryan Jun 2025 #2
What a stupid name Bayard Jun 2025 #3
Iran does not have nukes NoRethugFriends Jun 2025 #31
I'm betting they can afford to buy one Bayard Jun 2025 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Bayard Jun 2025 #4
It satisfied bibi's Frankenstein RW coalition to stave off a threatened no-confidence vote PSPS Jun 2025 #5
Trump is going to pull us into this war..... Butterflylady Jun 2025 #6
This will put many Jews around the world in danger Nigrum Cattus Jun 2025 #7
Unlike now you mean? FBaggins Jun 2025 #26
No, I understand, but it might now spread to Nigrum Cattus Jun 2025 #36
Like Israeli embassy staffers in DC? FBaggins Jun 2025 #37
This is what should have happened the minute the hostages were taken The Mouth Jun 2025 #8
Will you support Iran getting nuked? Eko Jun 2025 #12
What an odd question. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2025 #16
Why is that an odd question? Eko Jun 2025 #17
Maybe that's what was meant, maybe it wasn't, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2025 #18
Me neither, Eko Jun 2025 #19
Hopefully said person will return and clarify, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2025 #20
Prob just a case of someone saying something without really thinking about it. Eko Jun 2025 #21
Or just the baseline assumption... FBaggins Jun 2025 #27
While that is empirically true. we are in the vice of a demented toddler... ananda Jun 2025 #25
And just in time for trump's little parade. C Moon Jun 2025 #9
Netanyahoo seems to think Israel is insulated from damaging counterattacks. WestMichRad Jun 2025 #10
Part of the reason it took so long for Israel to go after Iran is because they wanted to mitigate those counterattacks. Lancero Jun 2025 #34
This one could get real ugly. republianmushroom Jun 2025 #11
How so? tavernier Jun 2025 #15
Iran could start playing with their nuclear toys. republianmushroom Jun 2025 #22
What nuclear toys? DavidDvorkin Jun 2025 #23
The nuclear toys they don't have? NoRethugFriends Jun 2025 #32
Yup, those. republianmushroom Jun 2025 #35
Fuck Iran. nt LexVegas Jun 2025 #13
Iran is retaliating big time! womanofthehills Jun 2025 #24
Sorta the point of the whole exercise FBaggins Jun 2025 #29
What would be the response if someone said "fuck Israel" instead? Orrex Jun 2025 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author PatrickforB Jun 2025 #14
Waiting For Protests Deep State Witch Jun 2025 #38

NoRethugFriends

(3,643 posts)
30. Pay attention. It's not The Ukraine
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 07:57 AM
Jun 2025

And this is in no way comfortable to you Ukraine situation. Ukraine pose no threat, I ran posed big threat.

J_William_Ryan

(3,280 posts)
2. And the fascist right couldn't be more pleased - in Israel and the US.
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 12:49 PM
Jun 2025

This was the intent of Trump withdrawing from the JCPOA in 2018, to facilitate an attack on Iran ‘justified’ by Iran’s ‘nuclear threat.’

Bayard

(28,358 posts)
3. What a stupid name
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 12:50 PM
Jun 2025

Netanyahu is like trump, thinking he can do whatever he wants and no one is going to stop him. Like I said earlier in another thread--nobody knows for sure if Iran may already have nukes or not.

NoRethugFriends

(3,643 posts)
31. Iran does not have nukes
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 07:59 AM
Jun 2025

Israeli intelligence is excellent. That's how they pulled this off.

Response to GJGCA (Original post)

PSPS

(15,195 posts)
5. It satisfied bibi's Frankenstein RW coalition to stave off a threatened no-confidence vote
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 12:54 PM
Jun 2025

Anything to stay in power since it's the only thing keeping him out of prison.

Butterflylady

(4,584 posts)
6. Trump is going to pull us into this war.....
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 01:39 PM
Jun 2025

He's been looking forward to it since day 1.....he wants to see blood no matter who it is.

Fetterman will be the first to volunteer.

Nigrum Cattus

(1,195 posts)
7. This will put many Jews around the world in danger
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 01:45 PM
Jun 2025

Also, it is to reduce their nuclear program. Problem
is, it will only solidify their resolve to have nukes to
prevent this from happening in the future. This a war
between Jews & Muslims and nobody has the balls to
admit it.

Nigrum Cattus

(1,195 posts)
36. No, I understand, but it might now spread to
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 07:31 PM
Jun 2025

countries/places other than the middle east. Iran
has a lot of ability to cause terror. Point is, this will
only make things worse.

FBaggins

(28,613 posts)
37. Like Israeli embassy staffers in DC?
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 07:37 PM
Jun 2025

Or maybe Boulder, Colorado?

Once again, they've been in danger for some time.

The Mouth

(3,406 posts)
8. This is what should have happened the minute the hostages were taken
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 01:57 PM
Jun 2025

Never forget. To hell with Iran. Ill support *ANYTHING* Israel or the US does to them.

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,552 posts)
16. What an odd question.
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 08:39 PM
Jun 2025

Why would Iran get nuked? And from who?
Israel doesn't have to nuke Iran, and neither does the US or any nuke armed country, conventional means alone are more than enough to neutralize Iran.

Eko

(9,808 posts)
17. Why is that an odd question?
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 08:51 PM
Jun 2025

The person I asked it of said exactly "Ill support *ANYTHING* Israel or the US does to them." I fail to see how it is and odd question in any way.

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,552 posts)
18. Maybe that's what was meant, maybe it wasn't,
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 09:03 PM
Jun 2025

but just for the record, I would most definitely not support a nuclear strike on Iran, there's no need for it and Israel knows there's no need for it.

Eko

(9,808 posts)
19. Me neither,
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 09:14 PM
Jun 2025

Between our B1's, B2's and 52's there is no need to. I just thought that was an extreme stance and asked for clarification.

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,552 posts)
20. Hopefully said person will return and clarify,
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 09:20 PM
Jun 2025

nuking Iran would be a colossal disaster and a horrendous war crime for any nation.

Eko

(9,808 posts)
21. Prob just a case of someone saying something without really thinking about it.
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 09:25 PM
Jun 2025

Happens to all of us, but I still had to ask.

FBaggins

(28,613 posts)
27. Or just the baseline assumption...
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 06:04 AM
Jun 2025

… that there’s no chance of the West using nuclear weapons first in a conflict.

ananda

(34,305 posts)
25. While that is empirically true. we are in the vice of a demented toddler...
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 05:20 AM
Jun 2025

who thinks of nukes as a fun play toy
that will make him king of the world.

He tried to use them in his first term, stopped
only by the actions of General Milley.

Now we have no sane, competent military leaders

WestMichRad

(2,886 posts)
10. Netanyahoo seems to think Israel is insulated from damaging counterattacks.
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 07:02 PM
Jun 2025

Perhaps embolden by how successful they’ve been to date in fending off drone and missile attacks.

Their luck won’t last forever. Expect attacks against US interests as well. Iran and its allies will keep striving for ways to inflict retribution.

Lancero

(3,257 posts)
34. Part of the reason it took so long for Israel to go after Iran is because they wanted to mitigate those counterattacks.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 08:41 AM
Jun 2025

Its why Israel held back after Irans ballistic missile and drone barrages in 2024 - They knew they needed to focus their attention on Irans irregular forces, their terrorist proxies.

tavernier

(14,209 posts)
15. How so?
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 08:13 PM
Jun 2025

Just because we have a spoiled five year old with Carte Blanche dying to try out all the bang bang toys he’s been given? Sounds to me like it’ll be a pretty quick ending. No point in even buckling in.

womanofthehills

(10,686 posts)
24. Iran is retaliating big time!
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 02:43 AM
Jun 2025

3 or 4 groups of ballistic missiles attached Israel today with missile defense systems not working at 100%. Interesting - but from what I’ve read on social media today, it’s the rare person supporting Israel. Many Republicans have had it with Trump today - Trump referring to himself as the peace candidate and then being for all the wars.

FBaggins

(28,613 posts)
29. Sorta the point of the whole exercise
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 07:21 AM
Jun 2025

Israel can handle this level of “big time”

A nuclear Iran changes that calculus

Orrex

(66,593 posts)
28. What would be the response if someone said "fuck Israel" instead?
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 06:06 AM
Jun 2025

I suspect that I can guess at the response.

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