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riversedge

(76,548 posts)
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:34 AM Jul 5

Texas Officials Blame Agency Gutted by Trump for Results of Deadly Storm

Source: meidas news




Experts warned for months about cuts to NWS and NOAA

Ron Filipkowski Jul 05, 2025

As the best and the brightest were being fired at the National Weather Service and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration by senseless and draconian ‘DOGE’ cuts earlier this year under Trump, with no reason given except for the need to cut a paltry amount of the government’s budget, experts warned repeatedly that the cuts would have deadly consequences during the storm season. And they have.

......................

And the chickens have come home to roost. Hundreds of people have already been killed across the US in a variety of storms including deadly tornadoes - many of which were inaccurately forecasted. And we are just entering peak hurricane season. Meteorologist Chris Vagasky posted earlier this spring on social media: “The world’s example for weather services is being destroyed.”

Now, after severe flooding in non-evacuated areas in Texas has left at least 24 dead with dozens more missing, including several young girls at a summer camp, Texas officials are blaming their failure to act on a faulty forecast by Donald Trump’s new National Weather Service gutted by cuts to their operating budget and most experienced personnel.

At a press conference last night, one official said: “The original forecast we received on Wednesday from the National Weather Service predicted 3-6” of rain in the Concho Valley and 4-8” of rain in the hill country. The amount of rain that fell in these locations was never in any of their forecasts. Everybody got the forecast from the National Weather Service. They did not predict the amount of rain that we saw.” .................................................

Read more: https://www.meidasplus.com/p/texas-officials-blame-agency-gutted?r=9qw74&utm_medium=ios&triedRedirect=true



This is significant--and official blaming the horrible tragedy on the Trump cuts in funding!!
Sadly, the kids are DEAD!!



When experts warned for months that the NWS “is being destroyed” by Trump’s personnel cuts, Howard Lutnick assured Congress that forecasting won’t be affected. Now TX officials are blaming a faulty forecast by NWS for the deadly impact of a storm. open.substack.com/pub/meidasto...

Ron Filipkowski (@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social) 2025-07-05T11:20:48.712Z
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Texas Officials Blame Agency Gutted by Trump for Results of Deadly Storm (Original Post) riversedge Jul 5 OP
The water was very wet. DJT. twodogsbarking Jul 5 #1
Sadly add these preventable deaths to the convicted idiot's record: Justice matters. Jul 5 #43
Trump's response to the Covid pandemic set the pattern for this. sop Jul 5 #54
Cruelty is the point. /nt brakester Jul 5 #83
THIS is what you all voted for. MLWR Jul 5 #2
Shall I pass your cheerful message on to my daughter's friends? Paladin Jul 5 #16
Let's just blame Trump and his basket of thugs. twodogsbarking Jul 5 #30
Obviously the problem is that it was not sold off to Accuweather like Reagan wanted. LiberalArkie Jul 5 #40
I live about two miles from Accuweather. There are many stories. Peace. Happy 5th of July. twodogsbarking Jul 5 #99
I am so sorry. murielm99 Jul 5 #31
I probably ought to be able to handle it better. God knows I see this sort of thing on DU, way too often. Paladin Jul 5 #38
My heart goes out to you and your friends. I hope her daughter is okay. chowder66 Jul 5 #36
I'm so sorry. littlemissmartypants Jul 5 #55
I am a Dem Texas voter. Many of my now grown daughters 's friends went to that camp and their daughters probably efhmc Jul 5 #66
One of my middle child's classmates used to go to Camp Mystic every summer LetMyPeopleVote Jul 5 #84
Disagree Mary Adeline Jul 5 #113
I am well-aware of how Texas voted. Paladin Jul 5 #114
Please do!! DFW Jul 6 #121
Agree. I mean Texas officials complaining turns irony on its head completely. ananda Jul 5 #52
Abbott DENVERPOPS Jul 5 #76
Never underestimate the conservative "pro-life" contempt Dr. T Jul 5 #98
Because it's never been about "pro-life"... regnaD kciN Jul 5 #101
Feels good, doesn't it? Using dead kids to dunk on people who you think deserve dead kids. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 5 #62
I post this map all the time but I'm guilty too, of red state/blue state thinking & speech. CrispyQ Jul 5 #78
The US Senate is essentially elected by Land. thought crime Jul 6 #123
This should be top news story of the weekend. Diamond_Dog Jul 5 #3
Let's see how many reporters are brave enough to report this on the news. Baitball Blogger Jul 5 #14
Dancing on the balcony underpants Jul 5 #4
Fox News really is a cancer on America Botany Jul 5 #6
That's Fox to a T. Ailes knew what he was doing. Sadly. underpants Jul 5 #87
Fox News' female talent are just like Murdoch's page 3 girls from "The Sun." Botany Jul 5 #90
Yep. If you've never seen "Bombshell" I'd highly recommend it underpants Jul 5 #95
Fox was built on lying by Ailes and Murdoch. "Feel the warmth of their marriage." Botany Jul 5 #96
I think I'm going to barf... llmart Jul 5 #7
P.S. to my post... llmart Jul 5 #9
It's the double giraffe jerkoff Aviation Pro Jul 5 #11
The two handed handy J as his feet are stuck in concrete dance Botany Jul 5 #17
He thinks he's cool and hip. llmart Jul 5 #33
It's worse than embarrassing. Much worse. sop Jul 5 #56
Krasnov's mental illness doesn't let him see himself as the complete buffoon that he is. Botany Jul 5 #86
Spot-on assessment Batshit_Bruin_CA Jul 5 #106
Elaine Benes of "Seinfeld" has a similar style. oasis Jul 6 #122
The convicted idiot said he has a good life... Justice matters. Jul 5 #46
Did he really say that? llmart Jul 5 #79
He said that (and worse) after a question about how long detainees Justice matters. Jul 5 #116
That's why I skip a hell of a lot of MTN videos. Jesus,that guy is obsessed with playing FOX vids Bengus81 Jul 5 #28
Yes, I quit watching NJCher Jul 5 #29
I skip them all SCantiGOP Jul 5 #45
Same electricmonk Jul 5 #71
If ever there was a project for AI, transcribing video would be a good one! CrispyQ Jul 5 #80
Faux crew is disgusting. Nt Trueblue Texan Jul 5 #15
Hitler used to do a little dance, too. murielm99 Jul 5 #32
I thought you were kidding Farmer-Rick Jul 5 #39
The "I murdered six million Jews" dance... sop Jul 5 #60
Me too. llmart Jul 5 #81
The pattern continues Farmer-Rick Jul 5 #37
trump went golfing also LetMyPeopleVote Jul 5 #85
So much empathy. BidenRocks Jul 5 #93
T💩p is jerking off two ghosts again I see. OMGWTF Jul 5 #103
Yes yes and yes. 👍 underpants Jul 5 #109
There are going to be millions more of senseless, unnecessary deaths gab13by13 Jul 5 #5
It doesn't matter if they kill people, ruin lives, and crash the economy because the vote is so rigged. Botany Jul 5 #8
No... GiqueCee Jul 5 #10
This................... Lovie777 Jul 5 #18
Hell no. Don't forget, he's one of the club. Those billionaire tax cuts also directly benefit him. the nelm Jul 5 #20
minus casualties??? llmart Jul 5 #34
Also can't let people hear there might be something to human cause climate change DBoon Jul 5 #48
Sady, they'll just blame this on "big government" Diraven Jul 5 #12
So now a State government has tested the Theory of FAFO. Good Luck! n/t aggiesal Jul 5 #13
So how's the Texas emergency management agency doing with helping survivors? sinkingfeeling Jul 5 #19
It will be blamed on 'the government' and we all know who builds big government... travelingthrulife Jul 5 #21
President Biden's fault............. Lovie777 Jul 5 #24
Horrible democrank Jul 5 #22
It was always going to be: Not IF, but WHEN aeromanKC Jul 5 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author krkaufman Jul 5 #42
Paper towels for everyone. BradBo Jul 5 #25
a flood watch was issued teh day before moonshinegnomie Jul 5 #26
Also, isn't 6" - 8" inches of rain quite a serious amount? Mike 03 Jul 5 #47
its a serious amount moonshinegnomie Jul 5 #58
Ditto!! CrispyQ Jul 5 #92
Yes it is Strelnikov_ Jul 5 #110
Reminscent of Nixon's DST debacle bucolic_frolic Jul 5 #27
The bad weather is Biden's weather; the good weather is Trump's.... Ol Janx Spirit Jul 5 #35
Ya think TX officials' blaming or complaining matters to the felon? The only real talk the felon might care about is ancianita Jul 5 #41
Yet Trump's carnage continues Grim Chieftain Jul 5 #44
Yes. If there were an answer for your question we'd know it by now. ancianita Jul 5 #61
I agree Grim Chieftain Jul 5 #64
Well, then... ancianita Jul 5 #65
Well that little tirade was unnecessary Grim Chieftain Jul 5 #69
It wasn't mean to be that, just an explanation. ancianita Jul 5 #72
All is good Grim Chieftain Jul 5 #75
And a hurricane season is starting. LisaL Jul 5 #49
"I voted for leopards to eat other people's kids...then the leopards ate MY kids!" COL Mustard Jul 5 #50
There are good number of new members of the Leopards Eating People's Face Party LetMyPeopleVote Jul 5 #89
Also, the areas in Texas that were affected are deep red. ananda Jul 5 #51
Texas is MAGA ground-zero for bullshit and lies. Martin68 Jul 5 #53
I hate tRump, and agree the NWS and NOAA cuts are already proving disastrous. However, plenty txwhitedove Jul 5 #57
And yet TX leadership are full MAGAts mcar Jul 5 #59
We literally TOLD all magats that they'd be voting for Proj 2025 every single night at the 2024 DNC. ancianita Jul 5 #63
I'm in Florida mcar Jul 5 #67
Me, too, and yes we did. ancianita Jul 5 #70
🤞🤞🤞🤞 mcar Jul 5 #104
Four major effects of climate change... (his event is heartbreakng) NowsTheTime Jul 5 #68
Texas, are you living and learning yet ? republianmushroom Jul 5 #73
Will the GOPiggies in Congress do anything about it? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 5 #74
Texas Officials are blaming trump for the loss of life due to these floods LetMyPeopleVote Jul 5 #77
Again, it doesn't matter and TX officials know it. They just want to lie that they're doing their job for the public, ancianita Jul 5 #88
Maybe Trump shouldn't have defunded the NWS. LetMyPeopleVote Jul 5 #82
Go figure orangecrush Jul 5 #91
the actual timeline of NWS warnings moonshinegnomie Jul 5 #94
Has Texas done anything, Old Crank Jul 5 #97
That's what you get when you vote for a person who cares only about himself mdbl Jul 5 #100
I hope we claw back every cent from the all the GOP limited tax cuts for the wealthy IbogaProject Jul 5 #102
Abbot is on TV blathering about how Trump loves Texas Picaro Jul 5 #105
Of course... This was Inevitable! Cha Jul 5 #107
The ideological dismantling of NOAA and NWS begins on page 674 of Project 2025 and is well underway. LetMyPeopleVote Jul 5 #108
Two dozen kids are still missing stollen Jul 5 #111
Heads to roll Fiddlelady11 Jul 5 #112
Local news reported Abbott signed a Deminpenn Jul 5 #115
F6ck that POS hot wheels!!!! wolfie001 Jul 5 #117
Texas is getting what they voted for, aren't they? MissouriDem47 Jul 5 #118
Trump is a mass murder damifino10 Jul 5 #119
DOGE is already costing lives bmichaelh Jul 5 #120
NYT-As Floods Hit, Key Roles Were Vacant at Weather Service Offices in Texas (gift links) LetMyPeopleVote Jul 6 #124

twodogsbarking

(14,364 posts)
1. The water was very wet. DJT.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:37 AM
Jul 5

The wettest water ever. Even water experts have never seen such wet water.

Justice matters.

(8,621 posts)
43. Sadly add these preventable deaths to the convicted idiot's record:
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:00 AM
Jul 5

As in "Everything T**** Touches Dies"

MLWR

(400 posts)
2. THIS is what you all voted for.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:42 AM
Jul 5

Don't blame me; I voted for the Black lady who was never going to do anything close to this.

Paladin

(31,013 posts)
16. Shall I pass your cheerful message on to my daughter's friends?
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:18 AM
Jul 5

The couple whose daughter was at that Hill Country summer camp, the daughter who is still missing and more-than-likely dead?

By the way, I'm one of 4.8 million Texans who voted for Kamala Harris for president. How fucking dare you use this unspeakable tragedy to trash the entire population of my state, as if we're all just a bunch of trump ball-lickers? Shame on you.

twodogsbarking

(14,364 posts)
99. I live about two miles from Accuweather. There are many stories. Peace. Happy 5th of July.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 03:05 PM
Jul 5

For many working people it is the day off in between two days off. Working for decades I salute you all. Too much time in America is spent working to just exist. Seems unfair given the wealth that could benefit so many. Reagan was so far worse than the world will ever acknowledge.

murielm99

(32,124 posts)
31. I am so sorry.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 10:25 AM
Jul 5

I understand, too. I live in Illinois, but we farm. We get painted with the same red brush as our MAGAT neighbors.

Paladin

(31,013 posts)
38. I probably ought to be able to handle it better. God knows I see this sort of thing on DU, way too often.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 10:48 AM
Jul 5

But when that sort of ugly prejudice is coupled with dozens of missing-or-dead children, it's pretty hard to ignore. Sorry for your problems in Illinois; hang in there.

littlemissmartypants

(28,434 posts)
55. I'm so sorry.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:29 AM
Jul 5

I understand. I'm a farmer in North Carolina and though many farmers voted for evil, I voted against it and all farmers are frequently blamed for our horrible predicament regardless.

Condolences to all of those affected by this tragedy.





❤️


"Darkness cannot drive out darkness, only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that."

~Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Strength to Love, 1963.

efhmc

(15,661 posts)
66. I am a Dem Texas voter. Many of my now grown daughters 's friends went to that camp and their daughters probably
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:55 AM
Jul 5

were there during this storm. I pray not.

LetMyPeopleVote

(166,210 posts)
84. One of my middle child's classmates used to go to Camp Mystic every summer
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 01:25 PM
Jul 5

There are a number of families in Houston who are worried. Luckily my middle child's classmate's children are too young to go to camp Mystic.

I also voted for Kamala Harris and was a Clinton delegate to the 2016 National Convention

Mary Adeline

(2 posts)
113. Disagree
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:55 PM
Jul 5

There was no intent to "trash the entire population of Texas," just to point out how the cuts to the NWS are probably responsible for the lack of better response. Trump said he would do this, and the majority of Texas voters voted for him.

Paladin

(31,013 posts)
114. I am well-aware of how Texas voted.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 06:07 PM
Jul 5

I am also aware that a sizeable number of us voted against trump's sorry ass. That was the point I was trying to make, and I stand by my efforts to do so. It is a point worth making, time and again, because there is a longstanding effort here at DU to "trash the entire population of Texas," and I will continue to object to it.

DFW

(58,482 posts)
121. Please do!!
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 01:35 AM
Jul 6

I’m as tired of seeing “Tex-ass” as someone from Marblehead would be of seeing “M-ass-achusetts.”

Several years ago, my wife and I were in a train from Washington to New York. During an extended stop in Philadelphia, two really offensive racists with heavy Boston accents got on our car and started hurling racial epithets at the car’s black steward. These guys seemed slightly drunk and possibly violence-prone, with a “whatcha gonna doaboutit” swagger. The steward left the car and returned with two white cops who looked like they were passed over for the role of “The Incredible Hulk” for being over-qualified. The cops told the racist assholes to grab their stuff and accompany them off the train. Their feeble arguments got them nowhere. When they were gone, the steward casually announced, “they ain’t ridin’ today.” The rest of us in the car gave him a sustained round of applause.

Texas by no means has a monopoly on this kind of boor.

ananda

(32,566 posts)
52. Agree. I mean Texas officials complaining turns irony on its head completely.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:23 AM
Jul 5

And the areas affected were all deep red also.

DENVERPOPS

(12,987 posts)
76. Abbott
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 12:58 PM
Jul 5

can call Sarah-Huck-a-Pig, Governor of Arkansas? and they can cry on each other's shoulders...........Trump denied FEMA help to Arkansas after a bunch of terrible tornadoes, after Sarah had defended trump daily for years on TV..........Now it's Texas' turn despite what Texas/Abbott have done for Trump these past years........

It is a shame, that INNOCENT CHILDREN..... are subjected to the wrath of Trump/Republican's despicable actions/in-actions.......

regnaD kciN

(27,178 posts)
101. Because it's never been about "pro-life"...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 03:16 PM
Jul 5

…but about scaring young women into “saving themselves for marriage.”

WhiskeyGrinder

(25,288 posts)
62. Feels good, doesn't it? Using dead kids to dunk on people who you think deserve dead kids.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:38 AM
Jul 5

CrispyQ

(39,960 posts)
78. I post this map all the time but I'm guilty too, of red state/blue state thinking & speech.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 01:07 PM
Jul 5
Land Doesn't Vote


Traditional maps


I love the Land Doesn't Vote map but the media prefers the bottom map & so does the GOP. It gives the appearance the country is mostly red when it's not.

BTW, these are from 2020. It pisses me off to no end that the Democratic Party doesn't update & distribute this map set after every election. They didn't put this map out either, morons. We're supposed to be the smart party but the repubs have beat our pants off in messaging & narrative.

Anyway, welcome to DU! Now you know why you got flamed a bit.

Diamond_Dog

(37,599 posts)
3. This should be top news story of the weekend.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:46 AM
Jul 5

What say you, Texas republicans? Is this acceptable to you?

underpants

(191,408 posts)
4. Dancing on the balcony
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:47 AM
Jul 5

However, Trump was seen dancing on the balcony of the White House last night celebrating the latest round of cuts in his budget bill that just became law so billionaires and corporations can have huge tax cuts. People are dying and more will die because of their recklessness, just like we saw during covid. And now millions won’t even have health insurance to deal with the consequences.


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Botany

(74,704 posts)
6. Fox News really is a cancer on America
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:58 AM
Jul 5

Lying their asses off as “the female talent” shows off their legs.

underpants

(191,408 posts)
95. Yep. If you've never seen "Bombshell" I'd highly recommend it
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 02:12 PM
Jul 5

Behind the scenes of Fox News at the beginning. It’s mostly about the sexual harassment but it shows some of the techniques Ailes (Nogn Lithgow) put in place. They were young communications majors who didn’t know how Fox would work out and they wanted careers. They’d be given copy based on and repeating lies innuendo spin etc and told to “just say ‘Some people are saying’ and you’ll be in the clear”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombshell_(2019_film)

llmart

(16,620 posts)
7. I think I'm going to barf...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:00 AM
Jul 5

Let me preface my remarks with the fact that I've never watched an entire FAUX "news" program. Every once in awhile I inadvertently catch a clip like this one. So I watched it and am still sitting here with my jaw dropped after the "you can just see the warmth in their marriage". OMG!

No wonder they call his followers cult members. You'd have to be pretty damned indoctrinated by FAUX to believe that these two people have any warmth to them let alone with the rest of their family.

Botany

(74,704 posts)
86. Krasnov's mental illness doesn't let him see himself as the complete buffoon that he is.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 01:29 PM
Jul 5

Any man who dresses like he does, wears orange paint, and has a hairstyle like he does and
looks into the mirror and thinks, “now there’s a good look” is bat shit crazy.

Justice matters.

(8,621 posts)
46. The convicted idiot said he has a good life...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:08 AM
Jul 5

while kids die in Texas due to his abject cuts.

llmart

(16,620 posts)
79. Did he really say that?
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 01:09 PM
Jul 5

I'm not surprised since all he thinks about is himself. Hell, even if his own kids died he wouldn't feel anything.

Justice matters.

(8,621 posts)
116. He said that (and worse) after a question about how long detainees
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 06:41 PM
Jul 5

would stay in cages at the concentration camp in FL...

The convicted idiot did not answer the question at all...

He just wanted to say he has a very good life, sort of.

It's always and forever only about himself and nobody else.

Bengus81

(9,002 posts)
28. That's why I skip a hell of a lot of MTN videos. Jesus,that guy is obsessed with playing FOX vids
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 10:09 AM
Jul 5

We know their nut job Trump humpers Ben. We know they LIE at every turn and have since you were ten years old. Dems don't want to watch that shit...and I don't.

SCantiGOP

(14,533 posts)
45. I skip them all
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:08 AM
Jul 5

Rarely watch videos, especially if they have capital letters, exclamation points, and BS like “Trump totally destroyed by ……”

electricmonk

(2,011 posts)
71. Same
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 12:36 PM
Jul 5

I made a post about that crap months ago on Bluesky. I also hate that they all will start talking about the subject of the video than say, "but before we get to that I want to show you..." then there's 5-10 minutes of other crap. I know the YouTube algorithm rewards video of certain lengths more than others and the creators get more money if people are watching for longer but if I watch at all anymore I skip around to just the relevant part.

Back last fall Meidas Touch said they weren't going to show Trump anymore. I was like hell yeah finally a channel I'll be able to stomach. That unfortunately didn't last long. I pretty much just stick to the Damage Report now. John is usually pretty good about keeping his clips on topic. Wish he'd cut ties with TYT though and go independent.
Looking for the post to add here and realized it annoyed me enough to post about it twice either that or my memory is slipping and I had no idea I had already said something about it. Anyway here's one of them.

It's a couple weeks late but any chance we could get a New Year's resolution by progressive/leftist YouTube channels to honestly title their videos? Every one has words like COLLAPSE, SHOCKED, STUNNED, CATOSTROPHIC, BRUTAL, etc. in them and the video never lives up to the promise.

4amKent (@4amkent.bsky.social) 2025-01-20T06:06:50.007Z

CrispyQ

(39,960 posts)
80. If ever there was a project for AI, transcribing video would be a good one!
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 01:11 PM
Jul 5

What I don't get is the vids have CC, so why is it so hard to get a transcript? ?????

sop

(15,159 posts)
60. The "I murdered six million Jews" dance...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:37 AM
Jul 5

I hope I live long enough to dance during Trump's funeral.

llmart

(16,620 posts)
81. Me too.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 01:13 PM
Jul 5

I'll dance, drink champagne, whoop it up, have a parade, and sing "Happy Days are Here Again".

Farmer-Rick

(11,865 posts)
37. The pattern continues
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 10:43 AM
Jul 5

Remember when pedo Trump removed funding from pandemic preparations and then we had a pandemic?

So look carefully at all the disaster funding he's removing. It's coming to a place near you.

BidenRocks

(1,836 posts)
93. So much empathy.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 02:03 PM
Jul 5

I can't handle any more.
Victims families deserve an Obama or Biden.
Instead we get blame and self-agrandizement.

I had a 2 day business trip to Houston some years back.
It flooded the 2nd day.
Everyone knows you don't build in a flood plain but Texas will do whatever. See also the power grid decisions.

It really is a whole other country. (Said their ads)

OMGWTF

(4,839 posts)
103. T💩p is jerking off two ghosts again I see.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 03:26 PM
Jul 5

Do you realize that fascism has been codified into law? I guess every 250 years we have to rid ourselves of a fking king.

gab13by13

(28,827 posts)
5. There are going to be millions more of senseless, unnecessary deaths
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:49 AM
Jul 5

caused because billionaires need more money.

Would Krasnov let the billionaires' tax cuts expire if he knew ahead of time those young girls could be saved?

Botany

(74,704 posts)
8. It doesn't matter if they kill people, ruin lives, and crash the economy because the vote is so rigged.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:02 AM
Jul 5

We are way down the rabbit hole of Christo fascism.

GiqueCee

(2,532 posts)
10. No...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:07 AM
Jul 5

... not a chance. NOTHING that doesn't directly and immediately benefit Trump matters to him in the slightest. If he's true to form, he won't even take the time to acknowledge their deaths.
In the words psychologists use to describe him, "Malignant Narcissist", malignant is a clinical term. A pejorative to be sure, but with clinical detachment. It's tunnel-vision selfishness on steroids and PCP, fueled by depraved indifference to the effects his actions have on others. In short, he couldn't care less.

Lovie777

(19,320 posts)
18. This...................
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:26 AM
Jul 5

warning: more accurate weather forecast diminished because of shithole and the republican party greed for more tax cuts for the rich, FEMA now funding more concentration camps and not helping with the USA disasters, more illegal deportations, not limited to criminals but to innocent people/citizens, now they are after naturalized citizens with the same lie re: criminals (we know how that worked), the slow destruction of SS, Medicaid, Snap, etc. (reimbursed for tax cuts to the rich), bullshit tariffs, and now a police state (ICE) funded with more tax payer money which WE THE PEOPLE pays in taxes.

There are more defunding to education, child care, healthcare, et al.,

People losing their jobs.

A president who is suppose to be for all the USA, but hates majority of us.

the nelm

(116 posts)
20. Hell no. Don't forget, he's one of the club. Those billionaire tax cuts also directly benefit him.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:29 AM
Jul 5

(Would it be a little karmic justice this hurricane season if Merde a Lago got flattened? [minus any casualties])

DBoon

(23,940 posts)
48. Also can't let people hear there might be something to human cause climate change
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:10 AM
Jul 5

A well funded weather service might convince people that fossil fuel use is leading to disasters.

Diraven

(1,446 posts)
12. Sady, they'll just blame this on "big government"
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:12 AM
Jul 5

And conclude that the weather agencies should be shut down completely. Knowing Texas.

travelingthrulife

(2,862 posts)
21. It will be blamed on 'the government' and we all know who builds big government...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:29 AM
Jul 5

that's right! Democrats! It's their fault.

Lovie777

(19,320 posts)
24. President Biden's fault.............
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:46 AM
Jul 5

but the magas have a new target for now, Mamdani, and therefore in their effed up world, it's his fault as well.

aeromanKC

(3,672 posts)
23. It was always going to be: Not IF, but WHEN
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:35 AM
Jul 5

The carnage of blood on Trump's hand has only just began.

Response to aeromanKC (Reply #23)

moonshinegnomie

(3,511 posts)
26. a flood watch was issued teh day before
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 10:06 AM
Jul 5

then the NWS service issued a flood warning at 1:15 am
city officials didnt bother to send a warning for 4 hours

https://www.kxan.com/investigations/conflicting-officials-social-posts-leave-evacuation-delays-questions-in-kerr-county-flooding/

ill just not that kerr county is ultra maga territory

Mike 03

(18,542 posts)
47. Also, isn't 6" - 8" inches of rain quite a serious amount?
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:08 AM
Jul 5

The quote makes it sound like the official doesn't think that was much, and that much more fell. How much rain actually fell?

All I know is that if we saw a forecast telling us six to eight inches of rain were going to fall where I live, I'd be shitting bricks and packing up the car.

moonshinegnomie

(3,511 posts)
58. its a serious amount
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:32 AM
Jul 5

especially on saturated ground. it sbeen raining on and off for several days. Im about 2 hours away from there. weve gotte about 5 inches so far this month and they just issued a flood warning for us for another 1-3 inches in the next few hours.

its not like this is unprecedented around here. weve been in austin for 15 years. weve had 3 storms i can remember that dropped over 10" in a few days. when we first moved here our realtor even joked that the weather here is drought interrupted by periods of flooding.



CrispyQ

(39,960 posts)
92. Ditto!!
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 01:48 PM
Jul 5

We got 6" of rain during the month of September one year & it took two years to fix the trails that got flooded out & one trail got closed permanently. I can't imagine that much rain in a day or two.

Strelnikov_

(8,006 posts)
110. Yes it is
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:18 PM
Jul 5

And 6 to 8 on already saturated ground is . . .

If NWS issued a forecast as such, this is on the locals, if anyone. Emergency management is a local function.

As you note, I would be making preparations if in a flood prone area. I know of State Park campgrounds that would be evacuating with a forecast like that.

Smelling locals trying to pass the buck, just like at Uvalde. Guess those cowboy hats are a shield from taking responsibility.

Ol Janx Spirit

(326 posts)
35. The bad weather is Biden's weather; the good weather is Trump's....
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 10:41 AM
Jul 5


And the fact that most victims were attending a Christian girls' camp means...it was all part of some grand plan...I guess.

Same theme: everything bad is Satan; everything good is God. It's hard to argue with anyone entrenched in that logic.

It's polytheism, but don't try to tell them that....

For me it is just another extremely sad and possibly avoidable tragedy. I grieve for everyone involved.

ancianita

(41,013 posts)
41. Ya think TX officials' blaming or complaining matters to the felon? The only real talk the felon might care about is
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 10:56 AM
Jul 5

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when the TX AG files a lawsuit.

A vast swath of this country have suffered disaster in the felon's second term. We know he doesn't give two shits about Americans when weather catastrophes like tornadoes, wild fires, or floods hit.

The felon's message: No one's coming. Y'all are on your own.

The only help will be from fellow Americans in these agencies who send timely warnings to affected states. Their preventive efforts might lessen some deaths and search and rescue money and manpower.

To mitigate some of what NOAA's warning systems have mitigated, we'll have to depend on each other among federal and state help agencies to establish durable communications in the next three years. Or more. Heaven only knows for how long, really.

Grim Chieftain

(377 posts)
44. Yet Trump's carnage continues
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:05 AM
Jul 5

and he is still in the Oval Office. What the hell does it take to remove a clear and present danger from the presidency?

ancianita

(41,013 posts)
61. Yes. If there were an answer for your question we'd know it by now.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:37 AM
Jul 5

To your question about what it will take to remove him, you know that institutions of government (and even elections) are not working to remove him, so what entity is left? And if that entity removes him -- either an assassination or the US military --- who/what will then remove the rest of the dangerous henchmen system he's had in place. Moreover, who will remove the oligarchs who've paid for all this?

ancianita

(41,013 posts)
65. Well, then...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:49 AM
Jul 5

you should know it's no good or help to call it terrifying. We can't let fears block our ability to think our way through this, and then out of it. We have to keep thinking ahead to what's coming and prepare to act with continuing
-- protests,
-- donating,
-- high midterm turnout,
-- investigations of midterm election fraud, and
-- helping our neighbors.

Feeling terrified or afraid stops all action. We have to stop scaring ourselves about the present and future, put feelings aside, grow up and join with others.
We have to act in solidarity.

Grim Chieftain

(377 posts)
69. Well that little tirade was unnecessary
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 12:28 PM
Jul 5

I am a baby boomer who has been protesting, phone banking, holding and attending rallies, calling and writing representatives since the seventies. I've been a member of the ACLU for decades. My husband was a legislative recruiter for the Democratic party and also a Democrat mayor in a very red state. We organized our county's "get out the vote" for several of our candidates and have knocked on countless doors. As a professor I have incorporated the principles of freedom, democracy, inclusion, ethics and activism in all my teachings.

My comments above were those of frustration, nothing more.

ancianita

(41,013 posts)
72. It wasn't mean to be that, just an explanation.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 12:44 PM
Jul 5

Sorry to offend, though I didn't mean to. As a fellow boomer I understand our frustration, and just wanted to point out that in the day-today, we can't let understandable negative emotions control us, is all.

COL Mustard

(7,493 posts)
50. "I voted for leopards to eat other people's kids...then the leopards ate MY kids!"
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:16 AM
Jul 5

I'm saddened by the loss of innocent life and have empathy for the families. I have zero sympathy for the Trump voters who elected him and his reign of chaos. This is one consequence of what they voted for.

ETA: Give it time. They'll try to find a way to spin this back on Biden...if they haven't already started.

ananda

(32,566 posts)
51. Also, the areas in Texas that were affected are deep red.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:20 AM
Jul 5

And of course, our entire state government is deep red.

So... I predict that nothing will change.

Oh.. and I just got a flash flood warning on my phone.

I guess it's coming to Austin now.

We'll see how that goes too.

txwhitedove

(4,148 posts)
57. I hate tRump, and agree the NWS and NOAA cuts are already proving disastrous. However, plenty
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:31 AM
Jul 5

of thoughts to mull around for all. Texas Hill Country prone to flooding: "Flood Facts: From 1998 to 2000, floods in Texas have taken over 100 lives, displaced more than 50,000 people and cost over 7.5 billion dollars. Nationally, deaths from all natural disasters are declining – except for flash flooding.
Texas holds six of the top 12 world records for rainfall of short duration and has floodplain acreage the size of North Carolina. “Flash Flood Alley” is a one-hour film that follows the lives of five Texans who rebuild after the great Central Texas flood of 1998. Read about this important film, see very helpful documents, media releases and film clips: http://floodsafety.com/media/ffa/contents_index.htm"

Easy to online search. Historic flooding for over 100 years. I lived in rural Texas on south end of hill country, and got caught in one of those big rain run offs.

ancianita

(41,013 posts)
63. We literally TOLD all magats that they'd be voting for Proj 2025 every single night at the 2024 DNC.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:43 AM
Jul 5

They didn't listen, and now they suffer for their ignorance. At least we Democrats know the cause of all this.
Blue states have been readying to mitigate weather catastrophes. So far, most of the damage has hit mostly maga states.

ancianita

(41,013 posts)
70. Me, too, and yes we did.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 12:29 PM
Jul 5

We'll see if they vote accordingly in the midterms. Some hardcore states like FL and TX might not change, but others might.

NowsTheTime

(1,155 posts)
68. Four major effects of climate change... (his event is heartbreakng)
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 12:25 PM
Jul 5
https://scied.ucar.edu/learning-zone/climate-change-impacts/water-cycle-climate-change

Changing climate means changing weather.

1) Climate warming is causing changes to weather in different regions of the world. In particular, it is causing more extreme weather events than we have seen in the past. These extreme weather events can have impacts on human health, limiting access to clean drinking water, food, and shelter and taxing people’s ability to cope with heat, drought or flood.

2) More rain and flooding: With more evaporation, there is more water in the air so storms can produce more intense rainfall events in some areas. This can cause flooding – a risk to the environment and human health.

3) More extreme drought: Warmer temperatures cause more evaporation, turning water into vapor in the air, and causing drought in some areas of the world. Places prone to drought are expected to become even drier over the next century. This is bad news for farmers who can expect fewer crops in these conditions.

4) Stronger hurricanes: Warmer ocean surface waters can intensify hurricanes and tropical storms, leading to more hazardous conditions as these storms make landfall. Scientists continue to research how climate change affects the number of these storms, but we know that the storms will be powerful and destructive in the future.

Heat waves: It is likely that heat waves have become more common in more areas of the world.

ancianita

(41,013 posts)
88. Again, it doesn't matter and TX officials know it. They just want to lie that they're doing their job for the public,
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 01:35 PM
Jul 5

though they damn well know they're as responsible for these deaths as the felon that they & TX rethugs voted for.

throwin' this in from upthread ...
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=3491232

LetMyPeopleVote

(166,210 posts)
82. Maybe Trump shouldn't have defunded the NWS.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 01:21 PM
Jul 5


Nim Kidd, chief of the Texas Division of Emergency Management, told a news conference on Friday night that the National Weather Service (NWS) forecast “did not predict the amount of rain that we saw.”

Maybe Trump shouldn't have defunded the NWS.

moonshinegnomie

(3,511 posts)
94. the actual timeline of NWS warnings
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 02:11 PM
Jul 5

Early Week: NWS offices (San Antonio & Austin) flagged heavy rain potential by Sunday, extending alerts through Wednesday.

By Tuesday–Wednesday: Messaging mentioned Thursday flood risk.Thursday: Flood watches were issued. By late afternoon, a “Slight Risk” of excessive rain (WPC 2/4) was highlighted—which in hindsight may have underplayed the potential.

How Did the Weather Models Perform?HRRR: Wednesday night runs showed 7–9″ bullseyes; by Thursday morning, projected 10–13″, and later up to 20″ in key flash-flood zones.

HREF: Also signaled >10″ potential early Thursday using probability-matched mean—providing solid foresight for forecasters

flash Flood Warnings kicked off just before midnight Friday as rain rates exceeded 3–4″/hr.Flash Flood Emergencies were declared around 4 AM Friday in Kerrville and near San Angelo as over 10″ fell


in addition the NWS issued a flash flood warning at 1:15am
local officials didnt tell people to evacuate til 4-6 hours later
https://www.kxan.com/investigations/conflicting-officials-social-posts-leave-evacuation-delays-questions-in-kerr-county-flooding/

Old Crank

(5,900 posts)
97. Has Texas done anything,
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 02:39 PM
Jul 5

Anything to prepare for this type of catastrophy?
This problem was known for months. Have they even had meetings to set up a plan to deal with the new environment?

mdbl

(6,907 posts)
100. That's what you get when you vote for a person who cares only about himself
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 03:06 PM
Jul 5

and them vote for people who support his ambitions about only caring about himself.

IbogaProject

(4,634 posts)
102. I hope we claw back every cent from the all the GOP limited tax cuts for the wealthy
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 03:24 PM
Jul 5

They brought this as they are so craven a greedy they'd rather not pay a little more to help others but instead are still trying to accumulate ever more than they can reasonably expect to use.

Picaro

(2,094 posts)
105. Abbot is on TV blathering about how Trump loves Texas
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 04:30 PM
Jul 5

Kristi Noem (aka the puppy killer) is there with Abbot doing some epic ass covering.

LetMyPeopleVote

(166,210 posts)
108. The ideological dismantling of NOAA and NWS begins on page 674 of Project 2025 and is well underway.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:08 PM
Jul 5

One of the provisions of Project 2025 was the dismantling of NOAA and NWS. We are seeing the results




stollen

(905 posts)
111. Two dozen kids are still missing
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:21 PM
Jul 5

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And these idiots are busy covering their tracks.

When it comes to gun massacres they say it is "too early" to get into a blaming discussion. Not when you have to CYOA, obviously.

Deminpenn

(16,888 posts)
115. Local news reported Abbott signed a
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 06:31 PM
Jul 5

declaration for Federal disaster aid.

I suppose the irony was lost on him.

damifino10

(116 posts)
119. Trump is a mass murder
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:24 PM
Jul 5

The body count in total is not being reported and/or attributed to this evil person. Covid was a huge
matter ignored by trumped his stupidity. Well, his isn't through. Many of the decisions he and his murdering administration have made guarantee that the body count is going to explode.
It appears that many of us are doomed.

bmichaelh

(865 posts)
120. DOGE is already costing lives
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:33 PM
Jul 5

Some people in this nation are just greedy.

They do not realize that the one of the lives that they could save could be the next great scientist or next great inventor, etc.

There will be horrific costs in this country caused by DOGE.

There will also be some silent costs that media will not cover.

For example, I am a lymphoma survivor.
I was first diagnosed with an indolent lymphoma, called follicular lymphoma in 1990.
In 2002 and 2019, it returned and was transformed into a more aggressive lymphoma, called diffuse large B-cell lymphoma (DLBCL).
I went through 4 different therapies in 2019 over 2 years; all failed.
In 2021, a new therapy worked; the drug had been approved by the FDA the year before in 2020.
So cancer research saved my life; cancer research that Trump has cancelled.

LetMyPeopleVote

(166,210 posts)
124. NYT-As Floods Hit, Key Roles Were Vacant at Weather Service Offices in Texas (gift links)
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 03:46 PM
Jul 6

Some experts say staff shortages might have complicated forecasters’ ability to coordinate responses with local emergency management officials.

🚨 NYT: As Floods Hit, Key Roles Were Vacant at Weather Service Offices in Texas

Some experts say staff shortages might have complicated forecasters’ ability to coordinate responses with local emergency management officials.

Gift link:

MeidasTouch (@meidastouch.com) 2025-07-06T04:33:59.776Z



https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/05/us/politics/texas-floods-warnings-vacancies.html?unlocked_article_code=1.UU8.Zjkx.evidtrUYt_ZY&smid=tw-share

Crucial positions at the local offices of the National Weather Service were unfilled as severe rainfall inundated parts of Central Texas on Friday morning, prompting some experts to question whether staffing shortages made it harder for the forecasting agency to coordinate with local emergency managers as floodwaters rose.....

The staffing shortages suggested a separate problem, those former officials said — the loss of experienced people who would typically have helped communicate with local authorities in the hours after flash flood warnings were issued overnight.

The shortages are among the factors likely to be scrutinized as the death toll climbs from the floods. Separate questions have emerged about the preparedness of local communities, including Kerr County’s apparent lack of a local flood warning system. The county, roughly 50 miles northwest of San Antonio, is where many of the deaths occurred......

The National Weather Service’s San Angelo office, which is responsible for some of the areas hit hardest by Friday’s flooding, was missing a senior hydrologist, staff forecaster and meteorologist in charge, according to Tom Fahy, the legislative director for the National Weather Service Employees Organization, the union that represents Weather Service workers.

The Weather Service’s nearby San Antonio office, which covers other areas hit by the floods, also had significant vacancies, including a warning coordination meteorologist and science officer, Mr. Fahy said. Staff members in those positions are meant to work with local emergency managers to plan for floods, including when and how to warn local residents and help them evacuate.

That office’s warning coordination meteorologist left on April 30, after taking the early retirement package the Trump administration used to reduce the number of federal employees, according to a person with knowledge of his departure......

John Sokich, who until January was director of congressional affairs for the National Weather Service, said those unfilled positions made it harder to coordinate with local officials because each Weather Service office works as a team. “Reduced staffing puts that in jeopardy,” he said......

An equally important question, he added, was how the Weather Service was coordinating with local emergency managers to act on those warnings as they came in.

“You have to have a response mechanism that involves local officials,” Dr. Uccellini said. “It involves a relationship with the emergency management community, at every level.”

But that requires having staff members in those positions, he said......

Typically, Mr. Sokich said, the Weather Service will send an official to meet regularly with local emergency managers for what are called “tabletop operations” — planning ahead of time for what to do in case of a flash flood or other major weather disaster.

But the Trump administration’s pursuit of fewer staff members means remaining employees have less time to spend coordinating with local officials, he said.

I have been through a number of hurricanes/storms including Ike, Allison, Harvey and lately Berly. There were weather service people coordinating with local officials during all of these storms. Here the DOGE and trump cuts meant that the weather service did not have the staff available to coordinate with the local officials.
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