Joe Rogan Feels Trump Betrayed Him on Immigration
Source: Gizmodo
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Rogan, who endorsed Trump just hours before the 2024 presidential election, now says he was misled by the man he helped boost into office. The podcaster and UFC commentator, known for giving a platform to anti-cancel culture figures and free speech advocates, is now accusing Trump of betraying the very values he campaigned on.
We were told there would be
, Rogan began during a July 2 episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, before trailing off and recalibrating. Theres two things that are insane. One is the targeting of migrant workers, not cartel members, not gang members, not drug dealers, just construction workers showing up at construction sites, raiding them. Gardeners. Like, really?
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Fascism is the response almost always to communism, Rogan said on the same podcast, quoting ANthony Rispo, a student of psychology and neuroscience at Columbia University. What we experience in this country is this continual overcorrection. Overcorrection to the left, then overcorrection to the right, to counter that.
In other words, Rogan is wondering if Trumps policies are an overcorrection too far, and if they resemble fascism more than freedom.
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Read more: https://gizmodo.com/joe-rogan-feels-trump-betrayed-him-on-immigration-2000624426
Rogan's support of Trump had followed Musk's, and the article points out that with both now disillusioned, Trump could lose the support of many of the "disaffected men, anti-establishment voters, young libertarians, and people tired of traditional politics" who make up their followers/audience.
Rogan also complained about people being deported or threatened with deportation just for being critical of Israel.

speak easy
(11,947 posts)Rogan has a selective memory, or maybe he heard only what he wanted to hear. Krasnov was promising, always promising, 'the biggest mass deportation operation in history.'
Ocelot II
(125,905 posts)he would have known all this was coming, just as we did.
underpants
(191,405 posts)Stated in the form of a question because thats one of Rogans tricks. He asks questions (with a point) but doesnt state things very often.
His guest, Amjad Masad, the Palestinian founder and CEO of the coding platform Replit, agreed. The two were discussing the Trump administrations crackdown on immigrants, especially in the context of escalating tensions over Gaza and political speech on U.S. campuses.
Masad brought up recent reports of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) targeting Palestinian students and immigrants on flimsy pretenses. Did you see the video of the Turkish student at Tufts University who wrote an essay? he asked.
Rogan responded, incredulous: It was just critical of Israel, right? And thats enough to get you kicked out of the country?
Safe as Milk
(131 posts)The fact that he's got a social media platform doesn't make him educated. He's obviously got no historical or political science background and is just blowing words out of his ass. People can listen to his drivel, or they can pick up a book or two by Timothy Snyder if they want to know about the etiologies of fascism.
RedArkGuy
(822 posts). . . of the psychology of so many male voters who went for Biden in 2020 and then switched to Trump in 24. Or the many voters Biden got who stayed home in 24.
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RockRaven
(17,620 posts)He lies about his biases. He lies about his decisions. He lies about what he has said in the past. He lies about his guests' sayings. He lies about documents. He lies, lies, lies in ways which are trivial to expose. And millions of fuckwits slurp it down daily.
I imagine it would be pretty easy to find in his shows many instances when he supported mass deportations of not just those who have committed violent crimes but everyone who is undocumented.
Notably, he doesn't seem bothered at all by the cut of $1 trillion to healthcare over the next ten years. And I'm sure he's hunky-dory with RFK Jr's nonsense.
Joinfortmill
(18,516 posts)BaronChocula
(2,964 posts)Joe Rogan is THAT stupid.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220429169
ificandream
(11,243 posts)His very actions are what the racist Trump supporters want. It's going to take a lot more ... another pandemic maybe ... to get them to change their minds, I fear.
slightlv
(6,094 posts)among them, and mostly them (because the rest of us vax and take precautions!). Something like that *might* wake up a few of them.
DSandra
(1,626 posts)And by the 2008 election they pretended that they never supported him.
RedArkGuy
(822 posts)But nowadays I guess we'd need to see him go below 35 percent before we can be sure his benighted party would lose what passes for a fair election in 26.
tonkatoy8888
(121 posts)our descent into communism. Maybe I was napping or perhaps out of the country when this seismic shift in political orientation occurred.
With this group there's always a lot of bullshit, but honestly, implying that our lurch into authoritarianism was a reaction to communism? Deep thinkers, or even the nominally educated are not a large part of the GOP machine.
ificandream
(11,243 posts)"Deep thinkers, or even the nominally educated are not a large part of the GOP machine."
And that runs all the way to the top of the ladder in Republicanism.
reACTIONary
(6,561 posts)RedArkGuy
(822 posts). . . kids being able to transition to their chosen gender with their parents' permission. Or public high schools with Black or Latino History electives.
Deminpenn
(16,886 posts)RW conservatives.
DanBaron
(105 posts)Rogan is more like an Old School Republican rather than a typical MAGA clown. We might get him on our side on some issues. Maybe get someone like Mayor Pete on his Show if we can cool this Media War down a bit and get some detente.
womanofthehills
(9,995 posts)He was a Bernie Bro (in the past he had Bernie on numerous times) and always spoke of never having voted for a Republican before this election in his life. . He says hes socially liberal. He might have some Independent tendencies as he has on Dave Smith a lot but so do many shows . Crystal Ball is bringing on Dave Smith a lot too. Dave Smith, Crystal Ball & Rogan all have been speaking up against the genocide in Gaza -
He was attacked big time over ivermectin with many calling for his removal from Spotify . That might have affected his politics. I think his friendship with Elon might have affected him negatively as he said his 3 hr interview with Elon made the most compelling case for Trump. In 2020, he supported Bernie Sanders and in 2024 Robert Kennedy when Kennedy was running for president before he joined with Trump.
He has so many comedians & sports people on but he sometimes has interesting guests and I will listen to those podcasts. Last week he had Bernie on and it was good to listen to Bernie for almost 2 hours.
DanBaron
(105 posts)I don't really follow Rogan so thank you for the info. I guess that he was one of the good people who were duped by Trump.
MrsCheaplaugh
(221 posts)Rogan's just an idiot with a microphone and an audience. His political convictions change depending on who his guest of the week is. If he has Bernie on, he parrots Bernie; if he has Elon on, he parrots Elon. The man's as stupid as a rock, and spineless in the bargain -- a perfect Trump follower.
mdbl
(6,907 posts)other than the dopes that listen to him.
sir pball
(5,040 posts)The OP says it at the end - disillusioned, anti-establishment/libertarian types, lotsa young males, who broke much harder for Trump this cycle than 2020.
I'm not gonna suddenly start praising the guy, but TFG potentially losing him is actually a pretty major strategic blow.
mdbl
(6,907 posts)The idiocracy prevailed in the last election.
yardwork
(67,148 posts)Joe Rogan must be exceptionally stupid.
But hes also media-savvy enough to know that he has to hew to the both-sides idiocy in order to preserve deniability against accusations of bias.
yardwork
(67,148 posts)Aristus
(70,392 posts)
reACTIONary
(6,561 posts)... might make him seem to be a "thinker" to some bar stool blowhards.
DrFunkenstein
(8,790 posts)Because the whole "communist" thing dissolves with the least scrutiny.
mitch96
(15,329 posts)William Seger
(11,725 posts)He'll never figure it out for himself.
MLWR
(400 posts)From his first term, it was clear to anyone paying a modicum of attention that trump lies. All the time. About any- and everything. He, like a toddler pushes boundaries; he carries grudges and avenges any and all grievances. He let everyone know, he intended not to govern but to rule like a dictator. His hatred for Latin Americans was always clear and left no doubts. Now, he's building concentration camps and threatening legal, American citizens. If he didn't see fascism coming with trump, he lacks the ability to connect the dots and that is on him.
msongs
(71,790 posts)womanofthehills
(9,995 posts)And up until endorsing Trump he was a liberal.
Rogan has more daily listeners than all of cable tv combined so he is a huge force.
Keepthesoulalive
(1,514 posts)Joe goes where the money goes. I think the Midas touch podcast has passed him in terms of people watching and listening. The man has no core values and many of the people listening are the same. Trump was not good for the country and that is what we should be focused on not the latest talking head.
Clouds Passing
(5,393 posts)
Ray Bruns
(5,382 posts)Trump lies like other people breathe.
patphil
(8,085 posts)Or at least wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
Although Liberalism does have some elements of Socialism in it, it is definitely different than both Socialism, and Communism.
Far-left liberals support private enterprise, but with a social conscious that seeks to help those in need, while putting constraints on those people and companies that adhere to a philosophy of self enrichment at the expense of society.
Also, far-left liberals would never advocate the government ownership and control of everything that is at the core of communism.
reACTIONary
(6,561 posts)... small minded, shallow thinking, right wing extremists.
ananda
(32,566 posts)Sheesh
DSandra
(1,626 posts)Too many of them in America.
sop
(15,156 posts)By all accounts, there aren't that many dangerous criminal immigrants in the U.S. Where did Rogan think these millions of deportees would come from?
pansypoo53219
(22,389 posts)republianmushroom
(20,614 posts)You live under that same rock as Newt ? Another one trying to cover his ass now.
lonely bird
(2,409 posts)Is an excellent example of the fracturing and destruction of media.
If everyone is media then no one is media.
LudwigPastorius
(12,920 posts)...a meathead.
He is morphing into a giant, talking human thumb.
moniss
(7,682 posts)articles saying that Crumb The 1st might lose the support of the people who follow Rogan etc. Crumb The 1st doesn't give a damn about that because he's got the power now and doesn't need them in order to stay in power. With voter suppression and gerrymandering turned up to the nth degree the people around him are planning on keeping control of Congress after the mid-terms. With the explosion of the ICE budget and the massive hiring of American Gestapo goons to come you can count on them being deployed at the polls and at ballot drop boxes and any registration drives. Then on Election Day they will likely engage in shenanigans to claim that various voting sites need to be closed or restricted because of a "security" situation. Of course those sites will be in Democratic areas only.
People might think a judge might order extended hours for voting but do these people have a track record of following orders from the courts? Not really. Then we'll hear "It's too late now to to go back and correct the situation."
LisaL
(47,280 posts)"mass deportations." Trump wasn't hiding his plans.
yourout
(8,493 posts)Omnipresent
(6,997 posts)Trump has been so sincere and honest ever since he descended that escalator 10 years, to announce he was running.
No one knew that he could be so erratic when he ran for President again in 2024.
SSJVegeta
(1,117 posts)
tulipsandroses
(7,638 posts)side. Note that he says that this is overcorrection of communism. Because being asked not be a hateful sexist bigoted asshole = communism.
As soon as the next trump like figure appears they will run to that person.
Many of the Bernie bros turned to trump in 16 when Bernie lost to Hillary. I am of the belief that it wasn''t Bernie's message they liked, it was that the was running against HRC.
Their sexism and misogyny runs deep. People who are bigoted against one group of people, more than likely share the same disdain for others.
pecosbob
(8,027 posts)He's a wannabe Art Bell without any of his integrity.