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highplainsdem

(57,425 posts)
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 04:59 PM Jul 5

Musk says 'America Party' is formed in US

Source: Reuters

A day after asking his followers on X whether a new U.S. political party should be created, Elon Musk said on Saturday that the "America Party is formed."

"By a factor of 2 to 1, you want a new political party and you shall have it!" he said in a post on X.

"Today, the America Party is formed to give you back your freedom."

The announcement from Musk comes after President Donald Trump signed a tax-cut and spending bill into law on Friday, which the billionaire chief executive officer of Tesla fiercely opposed.

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Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-says-america-party-is-formed-us-2025-07-05/

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Musk says 'America Party' is formed in US (Original Post) highplainsdem Jul 5 OP
Can there be a lesser of two evils between BOSSHOG Jul 5 #1
As of now? Absolutely Wiz Imp Jul 5 #6
Not a coincicent IMO that trump also canceled funds for a Musk Space X project... brush Jul 5 #11
The Cybertruck... llmart Jul 5 #20
Yes, it looks like Elon wants "freedom" PatSeg Jul 6 #66
Corectamondo brush Jul 6 #67
lol! UpInArms Jul 5 #2
The Gullible of America Party (GAP) William Seger Jul 5 #3
heh heh DoBW Jul 5 #9
We already have that party Klondike Kat Jul 6 #57
No need to read past the first two words. nt eppur_se_muova Jul 5 #4
For the sake of clarity, Musk should go fuck himself. He is as bad as Trump and is responsible to a great degree for... xocetaceans Jul 5 #5
Yup. Agree 100%! Initech Jul 5 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Midnight Writer Jul 5 #7
I'm looking forward to seeing the demise of the GOP RainCaster Jul 5 #36
I'm not sure Musk's vanity party will cause the Republican Party Vogon_Glory Jul 6 #51
As much as I like to see this new thing to get magas' attention away from Trump ... ificandream Jul 5 #8
A party that will help split the right-wing vote. OnlinePoker Jul 5 #10
A third party with nobody at the top of the ticket PSPS Jul 5 #12
Yeah, but we've got a lot of homegrown slightlv Jul 5 #22
Liz Cheney. speak easy Jul 5 #25
Pedo Trump is ineligible too Farmer-Rick Jul 6 #60
Won't get many Dem crossovers with the Nazi salute and apartheid. usonian Jul 5 #13
Welcome to third-party hell. Mawspam2 Jul 5 #14
... and sadly, the (Bull Moose) Progressive Party. speak easy Jul 5 #26
But is there room for the LaRouchers? NBachers Jul 6 #46
Eff off Rebl2 Jul 5 #15
Look rich boy tell the world what you know about your former employee kacekwl Jul 5 #16
In the short-run this Muskrat Party will hurt MAGA Republicans Justice Brandeis Jul 5 #17
I LOVE that name for the party... the Muskrat Party! So shall it ever be in my household! (LOL) slightlv Jul 5 #23
Or if we are being nice, the Muskratic Party Justice Brandeis Jul 5 #24
LOL...let's see NOW if restoring USAID becomes a priority of the em...American Party Bengus81 Jul 5 #18
From Wiki: A Badger Jul 5 #19
He's doing it to try to siphon off Trump supporters that are now pissed at Trump from voting for any Democrats. cstanleytech Jul 5 #21
Revenge. speak easy Jul 5 #27
Nah. These people aren't going to vote for Democrats ck4829 Jul 5 #28
They don't have to. pandr32 Jul 5 #30
I'm not talking about moderate voters. cstanleytech Jul 5 #31
Welcome back, Ross Perot. Lasher Jul 5 #29
Sorry, Leon. There just aren't enough silicon valley worker drones out there to... LudwigPastorius Jul 5 #32
It's a Russian op jmbar2 Jul 5 #34
"Measured public-centered engagement" means messaging. We had the opportunity to do this, Scrivener7 Jul 6 #54
"... recruit exceptional individuals, earn the public's trust, & legislate with restraint, precision, & civic clarity." ancianita Jul 6 #73
We don't need a third party. We need term limits. Gimpyknee Jul 5 #35
Lousy idea. murielm99 Jul 6 #37
Yep. OldBaldy1701E Jul 6 #59
The America Party will draw off Republican votes SpankMe Jul 6 #38
Why not the "Afrikaner Party" or the "Voortrekker Party"? Musk, despite his non-brown complexion, is going to be artemisia1 Jul 6 #39
"I promise the formation of a new party... a third party, the Wild Party!"--Alice Cooper, 1972 RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Jul 6 #40
i do not remember that quote -- was it on an album? orleans Jul 6 #44
Alice Cooper: Elected NBachers Jul 6 #47
It's from the song, Elected, on their 'Billion Dollar Babies' album. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Jul 6 #61
Musk doesn't know the first thing about what is required to form a new political party in America--- Jack Valentino Jul 6 #41
So what is Eloon's definition of 'freedom'? Aussie105 Jul 6 #42
oh how lovely. the prick who took away our right to privacy and walked away with all our data now wants to orleans Jul 6 #43
LOLOL Silver Gaia Jul 6 #45
America Par-tay! betsuni Jul 6 #48
Somehow I doubt there is a groundswell of support fujiyamasan Jul 6 #49
Is it a real party or a "party" like the astroturf Tea Party? thought crime Jul 6 #50
Is this "the" plan kkmarie Jul 6 #52
Much as I hate him, the timing is very ripe and this is going to be a force going forward. Scrivener7 Jul 6 #53
Does he think this will allow him to be elected President? KatyaR Jul 6 #55
Maybe he will be deported. twodogsbarking Jul 6 #56
Isn't That The Name George Wallace Used For His Party? DallasNE Jul 6 #58
Just another GOP fake split the vote tactic. KY_EnviroGuy Jul 6 #62
That's gonna suck voter from the MAGA crowd. NICE! BradBo Jul 6 #63
18 Points Underwater Before Jumping in the Pool DrFunkenstein Jul 6 #64
Like Trump, Musk has a cult following, too Deminpenn Jul 6 #65
Reuters: Musk announces forming of 'America Party' in further break from Trump By David Brunnstrom and Bhargav Acharya J riversedge Jul 6 #68
As always Musk isn't original. rogue emissary Jul 6 #69
This will be fun to watch LetMyPeopleVote Jul 6 #70
At least the party has a creative name AdamGG Jul 6 #71
it can't be a party 4catsmom Jul 6 #72

Wiz Imp

(6,102 posts)
6. As of now? Absolutely
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:32 PM
Jul 5

Musk's party has zero power, so encouraging people to leave MAGA for Musk will weaken the Republicans without really strengthening Musk's party.

brush

(60,632 posts)
11. Not a coincicent IMO that trump also canceled funds for a Musk Space X project...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 06:07 PM
Jul 5

I'd say Musk's new party is related to that. It's fine with me as Musk's new party, if anyway successful will take votes from trump and the rethugs in the coming midterms.

I think Musk will get tired of spending his money with little success. He's not that brilliant, just inherited millions like trump that he used to buy into successful companies, then additionally got many more millions in government contracts.

One reason I contend he's not that brilliant is the Musk Cybertruck...that monstrosity is his design, not that of Tesla designers/engineers.

llmart

(16,644 posts)
20. The Cybertruck...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:33 PM
Jul 5

wins the award for being the most godawful looking vehicle I have ever seen.

PatSeg

(50,637 posts)
66. Yes, it looks like Elon wants "freedom"
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 12:09 PM
Jul 6

for Elon Musk.

I agree that he is not brilliant. Just the fact that he got aboard the Trump train is an indication he's not as smart as he'd like us to think.

xocetaceans

(4,225 posts)
5. For the sake of clarity, Musk should go fuck himself. He is as bad as Trump and is responsible to a great degree for...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:28 PM
Jul 5

...Trump being in the White House at the moment. If Trump were smart, which he is not, he would have Bondi start investigating Musk immediately to see whether Musk violated the conditions of his visa, would have DOGE start to work on any of Musk's contracts, and would disentangle the US space program, government and military from its ability to be affected by any of Musk's actions. If Musk violated his visa's conditions, steps will have to be taken, but in the meanwhile, Trump should prepare a detention cot for him and hold him until all the ramifications of his potential lies can be sorted through across all of Musk's businesses and holdings.

What is good for the goose is good for the gander as it were. Musk cannot be stupid enough not to have known what Trump was planning on doing to immigrants, so Trump should definitely sic Bondi, Homan, Miller, and Noem on Musk. He richly deserves any blowback he gets from Trump and MAGA.

Initech

(105,692 posts)
33. Yup. Agree 100%!
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 10:42 PM
Jul 5

It's insane that during COVID he promoted anti-Fauci propaganda while elevating garbage people like Sherry Tenpenny and RFK Jr as high as they could go. When he bought Twitter, I was like "Call it a hunch, but I got a bad feeling about this.".

Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

RainCaster

(12,990 posts)
36. I'm looking forward to seeing the demise of the GOP
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:57 PM
Jul 5

Muskrat's fake party will harm the GOP by stripping away lots of votes that had been securely Republican. I see nothing wrong with that.

Vogon_Glory

(9,984 posts)
51. I'm not sure Musk's vanity party will cause the Republican Party
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 06:38 AM
Jul 6

to go the way of the Whigs, but it could damage it like Ross Perot’s party did to the R’s back in 1992..

ificandream

(11,252 posts)
8. As much as I like to see this new thing to get magas' attention away from Trump ...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:42 PM
Jul 5

I'm skeptical because these idiots don't usually do shit like this without a game plan. And I still don't think this "divorce" between Trump and Musk is anything but a game for the media. Musk wants attention. And he'll get it even if his "party" is going nowhere.

OnlinePoker

(5,989 posts)
10. A party that will help split the right-wing vote.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:51 PM
Jul 5

I support this, even though I wouldn't support the party.

PSPS

(14,724 posts)
12. A third party with nobody at the top of the ticket
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 06:12 PM
Jul 5

Musk is ineligible so I guess we can discuss this idea with previous third-party presidents like Steve Forbes or Ross Perot or Jill Stein or Chase Oliver.

Oh, wait...

slightlv

(6,138 posts)
22. Yeah, but we've got a lot of homegrown
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:05 PM
Jul 5

TechBros who'd love to have that top of the ticket, I'd bet.

Farmer-Rick

(11,875 posts)
60. Pedo Trump is ineligible too
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:41 AM
Jul 6

So, it will be curious which way the Dancing Supremes will swing.

Do they love Trump more and will they let him pretend to be elected a 3rd time?

Or do they just want a rich crazy Nazi to be president and will they let an unnatural born citizen be president. I mean the Supremes are already doing the jig around the whole natural born citizen stuff. And they are high stepping around ICE and deporting people who are born here if they look foreign. Musk sounds foreign, maybe that will be the kicker?

Also I think Musk knows more about rigging elections and fake counting votes than pedo Trump does.....well most anyone knows more than Trump does on any subject except for his voters.

Mawspam2

(997 posts)
14. Welcome to third-party hell.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 06:21 PM
Jul 5

America Party joins...

Libertarian Party
Constitution Party
Green Party
Peace and Freedom Party
No Labels
Perot / Reform Party
Social Democrats

kacekwl

(8,473 posts)
16. Look rich boy tell the world what you know about your former employee
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 06:48 PM
Jul 5

trump and then disappear please. Do something useful.

Bengus81

(9,033 posts)
18. LOL...let's see NOW if restoring USAID becomes a priority of the em...American Party
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 07:58 PM
Jul 5

Sure it will Musk...........

A Badger

(19 posts)
19. From Wiki:
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:11 PM
Jul 5
The American Party, known as the Native American Party before 1855[a] and colloquially referred to as the Know Nothings, or the Know Nothing Party, was an Old Stock nativist political movement in the United States in the 1850s. [...]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_Nothing

cstanleytech

(27,777 posts)
21. He's doing it to try to siphon off Trump supporters that are now pissed at Trump from voting for any Democrats.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:03 PM
Jul 5

ck4829

(37,017 posts)
28. Nah. These people aren't going to vote for Democrats
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:48 PM
Jul 5

They'll watch someone set their own child on fire before they'd vote for a Democrat.

I wouldn't want their support anyway, if Trump supporters were suddenly OK with me, I'd question my most recent life choices.

cstanleytech

(27,777 posts)
31. I'm not talking about moderate voters.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 10:27 PM
Jul 5

Siphon off enough of them given the current Republican gerrymandering across the nation and it might be enough to offset potential gains the Democrats might otherwise be able to achieve.

Lasher

(29,063 posts)
29. Welcome back, Ross Perot.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 10:08 PM
Jul 5

His most important influence was splitting the conservative vote. It would be the same with the Musk Party.

LudwigPastorius

(12,973 posts)
32. Sorry, Leon. There just aren't enough silicon valley worker drones out there to...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 10:37 PM
Jul 5

vote your imaginary Technarchy into existence.

You had your chance to be Trump's wormtongue and have your hands on the levers, but you blew it.

No go play with your cars and your rockets.

jmbar2

(7,076 posts)
34. It's a Russian op
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 10:48 PM
Jul 5



II. Strategic Context

A. Legislative Margins
•The U.S. Senate currently operates at or near parity (e.g., 50–50, 51–49 configurations).
•The House has experienced sub–10 vote majorities over three consecutive election cycles.
•In such an environment, even a minor voting bloc can function as a legislative fulcrum.

B. Voter Realignment
•Over 42% of American voters now self-identify as “independent” or “non-affiliated.”
•Approval ratings of both major parties and Congress as a whole remain near historic lows.
•There is a demonstrated appetite for competence-based, non-ideological representation.



III. Operational Model

A. Candidate Deployment
•Identification of swing districts and moderate Senate races with favorable demographics.
•Emphasis on candidates with strong backgrounds in business, technology, governance, or civic leadership.
•Use of data-driven, locally embedded campaign infrastructure, not party machines.

B. Independent Caucus Framework
•Elected candidates do not join Democratic or Republican caucuses.
•All votes cast individually, on merit and measurable impact.
•Internal cohesion is maintained via a binding code of principles, not ideological alignment.

C. Institutional Role
•The bloc functions as a veto-neutralizer or passage-enabler on major federal legislation.
•It has the capacity to initiate, shape, or block policy on issues such as:
•Federal spending and debt oversight
•Border integrity and immigration reform
•Energy and manufacturing strategy
•Digital infrastructure and speech policy
•Education autonomy and parental rights
IV. Communication and Transparency
•All caucus positions will be made public prior to votes.
•Members commit to monthly public briefings and district accountability sessions.
•A public digital portal will allow constituents to review and provide feedback on pending legislation.



V. Financial and Logistical Integrity
•All campaign financing will comply with FEC guidelines, sourced from individual donors and aligned PACs.
•No acceptance of corporate lobbying funds or direct party contributions.
•Each campaign will publish a real-time expenditure ledger for public review.



VI. Conclusion and Forward Outlook

The Ten-Seat Strategy is not an attempt to subvert democratic institutions, but to reinforce their credibility through measured, public-centered engagement.
It represents a post-partisan, limited-scope corrective, appropriate for a moment in which many citizens feel structurally unheard, yet remain deeply invested in national renewal.

Through minimal representation and maximal transparency, this strategy has the potential to function as a structural safeguard against partisan excess and legislative capture.

Its success will depend on the ability to recruit exceptional individuals, earn the public’s trust, and legislate with restraint, precision, and civic clarity.

Scrivener7

(56,502 posts)
54. "Measured public-centered engagement" means messaging. We had the opportunity to do this,
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 07:08 AM
Jul 6

but we haven't taken that opportunity. And yes, it might be a Russian op, but we have seen in past elections how effective Russians are at messaging.

And to those who have consistently said, "What can we do? We have no majorities! There's nothing we can do!" watch this space. We will soon be treated to painful lessons on what we could have done.

Sadly, the American Party is not something to dismiss.

ancianita

(41,097 posts)
73. "... recruit exceptional individuals, earn the public's trust, & legislate with restraint, precision, & civic clarity."
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 04:41 PM
Jul 6

On this Musk is 0 for 5. Look at Musk's DOGE crew as a foretaste of his intent.

Not only will Musk never find any exceptional individual with name recognition and public trust, and whose resume lists restrained, precise legislation, and civic clarity...

Musk doesn't even understand the persons on our side who already fit this description
BECAUSE Musk doesn't even know what his words like exceptional, public trust, restraint, civic, and clarity actually mean.

Musk simply wants to form yet another fascist party, this one to his liking, to do his own fascist bidding.

OldBaldy1701E

(8,420 posts)
59. Yep.
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 07:59 AM
Jul 6

But, these days that is never going to happen. Some people prefer to have their 'people' entrenched in our government. They don't want to lose their special access, or the favoritism.

The idea that 'the people' are the government would be greatly bolstered if we would just get more of us involved. Term limits would facilitate that. But, alas... most people would rather foster the job on someone else. Someone that will do the dirty work while others keep them in office for decades, thus removing their ability to get involved and creating an 'echo chamber' in our elected offices.

It is the difference between knowledge and experience. Knowledge is great, but without experience, one can often struggle to utilize the knowledge effectively.

SpankMe

(3,535 posts)
38. The America Party will draw off Republican votes
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 01:02 AM
Jul 6

If this crazy idea survives and reaches a workable mass by '26 or '28, it stands to siphon off far more Republican votes than any other. This vote split could help Democrats.

artemisia1

(1,105 posts)
39. Why not the "Afrikaner Party" or the "Voortrekker Party"? Musk, despite his non-brown complexion, is going to be
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 01:07 AM
Jul 6

deported soon if he keeps this up. "Irregularities" in his citizenship application will be found...

orleans

(36,267 posts)
44. i do not remember that quote -- was it on an album?
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 02:38 AM
Jul 6

also, just trivia, but did you know he's a republican?

61. It's from the song, Elected, on their 'Billion Dollar Babies' album.
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 09:27 AM
Jul 6

Yeah, I've hear Alice was a repub. Not as nutty as Nugent, though!

Jack Valentino

(2,838 posts)
41. Musk doesn't know the first thing about what is required to form a new political party in America---
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 02:02 AM
Jul 6

but with his money, he can hire people who DO know something....



Contrary to what some have said, I think his new party is much more of a threat to the Republicans
than the Democrats, whose members are extremely unlikely to vote for HIS candidates....

and that would be just fine.




Aussie105

(7,105 posts)
42. So what is Eloon's definition of 'freedom'?
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 02:27 AM
Jul 6

I bet it isn't the same as mine!

But anything that fragments the MAGA crowd is welcome.

May the battles between Muskovites and Trumpistas be many and bloody!

orleans

(36,267 posts)
43. oh how lovely. the prick who took away our right to privacy and walked away with all our data now wants to
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 02:36 AM
Jul 6

give back our freedom? LOL

fujiyamasan

(491 posts)
49. Somehow I doubt there is a groundswell of support
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 06:25 AM
Jul 6

For a party founded by a drug addicted billionaire, but please proceed always.

thought crime

(509 posts)
50. Is it a real party or a "party" like the astroturf Tea Party?
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 06:31 AM
Jul 6

Is it just an informal effort aimed at recruiting more extremists? Or co-opting MAGA to further reduce government social spending? He may just be trying to take over or replace the republican party.

DallasNE

(7,825 posts)
58. Isn't That The Name George Wallace Used For His Party?
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 07:58 AM
Jul 6

Is that what Musk really stands for? There are similarities.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,720 posts)
62. Just another GOP fake split the vote tactic.
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 10:48 AM
Jul 6

In the end, they'll all take a knee to GOP power, gather 'round the campfire and vote Republican......

DrFunkenstein

(8,790 posts)
64. 18 Points Underwater Before Jumping in the Pool
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 11:05 AM
Jul 6

This seems more like it was the brainchild of Republicans who wanted to distance themselves from Musk ahead of the midterms.

Deminpenn

(16,920 posts)
65. Like Trump, Musk has a cult following, too
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 11:44 AM
Jul 6

The "bros" voted for Trump in 2024, but if Musk endorses candidates, the "bros" will align with their true cult leader's candidate, not the GOP's.

riversedge

(76,655 posts)
68. Reuters: Musk announces forming of 'America Party' in further break from Trump By David Brunnstrom and Bhargav Acharya J
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 12:53 PM
Jul 6


Musk announces forming of 'America Party' in further break from Trump
By David Brunnstrom and Bhargav Acharya
July 6, 2025 1:06 AM CDT Updated 5 hours ago
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-says-america-party-is-formed-us-2025-07-05/?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us




..............The announcement from Musk comes after Trump signed his self-styled "big, beautiful" tax-cut and spending bill into law on Friday, which Musk fiercely opposed.

Musk, who became the word's richest man thanks to his Tesla car company and his SpaceX satellite firm, spent hundreds of millions on Trump's re-election and led the Department of Government Efficiency from the start of the president's second term aimed at slashing government spending.

The first sign of investor dissatisfaction with Musk's announcement followed later in the day. Investment firm Azoria Partners will postpone the listing of a Tesla exchange-traded fund, Azoria CEO James Fishback said in a post on X.



..............

Despite Musk's deep pockets, breaking the Republican-Democratic duopoly will be a tall order, given that it has dominated American political life for more than 160 years, while Trump's approval ratings in polls in his second term have generally held firm above 40%, despite often divisive policies.

rogue emissary

(3,291 posts)
69. As always Musk isn't original.
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 01:40 PM
Jul 6

There's been a The American party established 1969 but is defunct around 2016.

AdamGG

(1,729 posts)
71. At least the party has a creative name
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 04:24 PM
Jul 6

It's like a party named by a 4 year old. It narrows things down to their being from North or South America.

4catsmom

(663 posts)
72. it can't be a party
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 04:25 PM
Jul 6

it will have to go thru the processes in every state and it will take years. he can call it a movement and run the candidate as an independent aligned with his party

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