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alp227

(32,029 posts)
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 08:36 PM Dec 2012

Margaret Thatcher's role in plan to dismantle welfare state revealed

Source: guardian

Margaret Thatcher and her chancellor Sir Geoffrey Howe were behind a politically toxic plan in 1982 to dismantle the welfare state, newly released Downing Street documents show. She later attempted to distance herself from the plans after what was described as a "riot" in her cabinet.

The proposals considered by her cabinet included compulsory charges for schooling and a massive scaling back of other public services. "This would of course mean the end of the National Health Service," declared a confidential cabinet memorandum by the Central Policy Review Staff in September 1982, released by the National Archives on Friday under the 30-year rule.

Nigel Lawson, then the energy secretary, said the report by the official thinktank on long-term public spending options caused "the nearest thing to a cabinet riot in the history of the Thatcher administration".

In her memoirs, Thatcher said: "I was horrified when I saw this paper. I pointed out that it would almost certainly be leaked and give a totally false impression … It was all a total nonsense," claiming the proposals were never seriously considered by her or her ministers.

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/dec/28/margaret-thatcher-role-plan-to-dismantle-welfare-state-revealed

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Margaret Thatcher's role in plan to dismantle welfare state revealed (Original Post) alp227 Dec 2012 OP
Trying to emulate Saint Ronnie's rampant misery creating? indepat Dec 2012 #1
This is hardly a revelation. Boomerproud Dec 2012 #11
Britons are smart people AlphaCentauri Dec 2012 #2
I dislike her secondvariety Dec 2012 #3
Sure they weren't taken seriously. Arctic Dave Dec 2012 #4
"Not taken seriously" and "Discussed by the cabinet" are polar opposites ikri Dec 2012 #12
She is a very cold person. ywcachieve Dec 2012 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Dec 2012 #6
It seems conservatives are incapable of history lessons. Kalidurga Dec 2012 #7
R#15 & K n/t UTUSN Dec 2012 #8
I guess "end welfare as we know it" just wouldn't fly over there (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #9
I knew that women was a complete bitch. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #10
So she was the british version of a corporatist tea bagger. Third Doctor Dec 2012 #13
Thatcher said there is no such thing as society; only individuals and families FiveGoodMen Dec 2012 #14
This was a secret or something? nt bemildred Dec 2012 #15
Nope dipsydoodle Dec 2012 #18
Reminds me of Stephen Harper... leftlibdem420 Dec 2012 #16
PR would be a huge improvement daleo Dec 2012 #17
PR has its benefits, but look at Israel if you think its flawless ButterflyBlood Dec 2012 #19
Thatcher was like Romney except she carries a purse Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2012 #20
Kicking in the wake of her death n/t alp227 Apr 2013 #21

Boomerproud

(7,955 posts)
11. This is hardly a revelation.
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:28 AM
Dec 2012

After all, she and her American boyfriend were soulmates. I actually think Ronnie (at least the people around him) had more success and continue their quest to this day-with a LOT of help.

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
4. Sure they weren't taken seriously.
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 09:54 PM
Dec 2012

That is the dream of all fascist and she is no different.

Her and Ronnie weren't buddies for nothing.

ikri

(1,127 posts)
12. "Not taken seriously" and "Discussed by the cabinet" are polar opposites
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 08:22 AM
Dec 2012

If the report made it to a full cabinet meeting then it would have been discussed at length by ministers and civil servants. It didn't just appear out of nowhere.

Response to alp227 (Original post)

Third Doctor

(1,574 posts)
13. So she was the british version of a corporatist tea bagger.
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 12:45 PM
Dec 2012

They see, to exist in more places than I thought.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
14. Thatcher said there is no such thing as society; only individuals and families
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 01:06 PM
Dec 2012

She is one of the most evil people who ever lived.

 

leftlibdem420

(256 posts)
16. Reminds me of Stephen Harper...
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 01:15 PM
Dec 2012

Nobody really liked her, but she and her party exploited a shitty electoral system to impose a toxiic, hard-right agenda on an electorate that didn't want it. Only morons support first past the post. I consider support for such an archaic electoral system and opposition to proportional representation to be on the same level of stupidity as opposition to same-sex marriage, abortion rights, and the legalization of soft drugs.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
17. PR would be a huge improvement
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:17 PM
Dec 2012

The right wing has turned gaming first past the post into an art-form.

ButterflyBlood

(12,644 posts)
19. PR has its benefits, but look at Israel if you think its flawless
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 12:03 AM
Dec 2012

Israel's government almost aways has some crazies in it because it's almost impossible to get a majority without them. Also the Netherlands's system gives a bit too much power to Geert Wilders because of the system. I'd like to look at something like single transferable vote.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
20. Thatcher was like Romney except she carries a purse
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 12:17 AM
Dec 2012

she wanted to privatize everything. Thank goodness we stopped her.

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