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cal04

(41,505 posts)
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 04:47 PM Dec 2012

Filibuster Reform Champions Say Democrats Have 51 Votes To Change Rules

Last edited Fri Dec 28, 2012, 11:25 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: TPM

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) has 51 Democratic votes to reform the filibuster, the two leading champions of weakening the minority's power to obstruct business said Friday.

An aide to Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-OR) told TPM he believes Reid -- who has vowed to move forward using the constitutional option next month if Republicans don't sign on -- has secured the necessary votes.

Sen. Tom Udall (D-NM) concurred, according to The Hill, saying: The crucial thing for all of you to know is Harry Reid’s got 51 votes to do the Constitutional option at the beginning of the Congress. My sense is if he can’t get agreement on the other side, then he’s going to go forward.

The two senators are pushing a talking filibuster which would change the rules to require filibustering senators to occupy the floor and speak if they want to halt Senate business.

Read more: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/filibuster-reform-champions-say-democrats-have-51-votes



Cantwell after the meeting in filibuster reform: There's 51 votes to do something, that's for sure.

https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/284741805734506497
Ryan Grim

Leading proponent of filibuster reform claims he has 51 votes
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/274791-leading-proponent-of-filibuster-reform-claims-51-votes-for-nuclear-option

Breaking the Filibuster
http://data.huffingtonpost.com/interactives/2012/12/18/filibuster-reform?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000008
The Huffington Post is tracking where Democratic senators stand on filibuster reform — specifically, the "talking filibuster," which would require senators to participate in debate in order to block legislation. If every Republican senator votes against the legislation, 51 Democratic senators — or 50 plus Vice President Joe Biden breaking the tie — will be needed to pass the bill.

4 No / Leaning No
http://data.huffingtonpost.com/interactives/2012/12/18/filibuster-reform?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000008









51 Yes / Leaning Yes
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Filibuster Reform Champions Say Democrats Have 51 Votes To Change Rules (Original Post) cal04 Dec 2012 OP
Adding this to my phone call notes for "our" "representation" nt patrice Dec 2012 #1
change them NOW putitinD Dec 2012 #2
*cough* The Republicans can easily filibuster any such attempt, which is kinda the point. Gonna have DRoseDARs Dec 2012 #6
ALL RIGHT!! SLAM THAT HAMMER DOWN!! n/t RDANGELO Dec 2012 #3
Hey, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV); jonthebru Dec 2012 #4
Can the Senate bring it to a vote without 61 votes? JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2012 #5
Yeah, they can easily filibuster. The start of a new session is the best time to do it. nt DRoseDARs Dec 2012 #7
In the first session of each new senate you have an opportunity to change the rules with 50+ votes. PoliticAverse Dec 2012 #8
I hope everybody sees ^^THIS^^ immoderate Dec 2012 #11
Thanks, I didn't know that! JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2012 #14
"if he can’t get agreement on the other side" lobodons Dec 2012 #9
Ask Nicely SoCalMusicLover Dec 2012 #10
He and McConnell SwankyXomb Dec 2012 #15
Waiting on Reid to fold and "compromise" broadcaster75201 Dec 2012 #12
GOOD! RetroGamer1971 Dec 2012 #13
YES! k&r xxxsdesdexxx Dec 2012 #16
Good malz Dec 2012 #17
Crossing my fingures davidpdx Dec 2012 #18
 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
6. *cough* The Republicans can easily filibuster any such attempt, which is kinda the point. Gonna have
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 04:59 PM
Dec 2012

...to wait until the new session congress is seated.

jonthebru

(1,034 posts)
4. Hey, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV);
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 04:57 PM
Dec 2012

Do your job and save this country from the corporatist morans!

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
5. Can the Senate bring it to a vote without 61 votes?
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 04:59 PM
Dec 2012

Won't the Republicans just filibuster the bill? Or throw a secret hold on it?

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
11. I hope everybody sees ^^THIS^^
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:56 PM
Dec 2012

That's why they're all citing the 51 votes they need to set new rules. But will they do it ??

--imm

 

lobodons

(1,290 posts)
9. "if he can’t get agreement on the other side"
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:18 PM
Dec 2012

Agreement from the GOP? Um, didn't Reid already try this in 2010? How did that work for him?

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
10. Ask Nicely
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:24 PM
Dec 2012

I'm sure the other side will readily agree. What's the problem?

And Harry, I got this bridge to sell you in Nevada. Right near Hoover Dam. Interested?

SwankyXomb

(2,030 posts)
15. He and McConnell
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 07:03 PM
Dec 2012

had a handshake deal to avoid abusing the filibuster, which lasted as long as it took Mitch to wipe his hands off.

broadcaster75201

(387 posts)
12. Waiting on Reid to fold and "compromise"
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 06:07 PM
Dec 2012

This is 4 years of that crap talking. I hope they will surprise me.

RetroGamer1971

(177 posts)
13. GOOD!
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 06:26 PM
Dec 2012

I think this is a good idea. If anyone in the future wants to filibuster, do it in the light, where we can all see you.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
18. Crossing my fingures
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 12:16 AM
Dec 2012

I posted the graphic on Facebook with the senators names and states. Please everyone do the same. People who have lots of friends on Facebook are bound to have at least one in the four states.

I think the four who are wavering on yes are Leahy, Reed, Feinstein and Boxer.

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