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Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 02:22 PM Dec 2012

Judge Halts Contraceptive Mandate for Mich. Firm

Source: AP (via ABC)

A federal judge has ruled a property management company owned by the founder of Domino's Pizza doesn't have to immediately implement mandatory contraception coverage in the health care law.

U.S. District Judge Lawrence Zatkoff ruled Sunday in favor of Tom Monaghan and his Domino's Farms Corp., near Ann Arbor. Monaghan, a devout Roman Catholic, says contraception isn't health care but a "gravely immoral" practice.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/judge-halts-contraceptive-mandate-mich-firm-18101722#.UOHXUW80V8E



grrrr......
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Judge Halts Contraceptive Mandate for Mich. Firm (Original Post) Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 OP
WTF Paulie Dec 2012 #1
This is (I think) the third case I've heard about involving this. Igel Dec 2012 #2
Zatkoff Is A Reagan Appointee DallasNE Dec 2012 #3
Further appeals from DoJ will remove the order of Zatkoff and order him to fuck off on women's body. Panasonic Dec 2012 #4
I'd like the firm to prove its religious sincerity. Fresh_Start Dec 2012 #5

Igel

(35,317 posts)
2. This is (I think) the third case I've heard about involving this.
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 02:36 PM
Dec 2012

They've broken 2-1 in favor of suspending the requirement.

One thing they've had in common is that if the complaint's filed by the corporation as the corporation then it's turned down. Apparently corporations have free speech rights but not freedom-of-religion rights. Not unreasonable--the corporation itself is an amalgamation, a legal fiction to use a legal tactic for pooling resources and sharing/avoiding risk.

The other thing they have in common is that if the complaint includes the name of a majority shareholder then the court views the corporation as just the tool that an individual has choosen to use to enter the marketplace. The individual has free speech and freedom of religion/conscience, and since the corporation is just an extension of the individual then the individual's freedom of conscience has to be considered.

In one case that was the explicit rationale given. A court had ruled against the corporation, but then on appeal a court said that the lower court had only considered the effect on the corporation and failed to notice that an 88% shareholder (I think I have the # right) was also a plaintiff and that his/her rights had been ignored.

I wanna watch this play out at SCOTUS. I always think that dueling personal rights are more interesting than a lot of the other cases and I'm always disappointed when the court does the convenient thing and finds technical reasons to not hear the case, remand the case down the food chain for further deliberation, or finds some piddly detail on which to rest the case's carcase.

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
4. Further appeals from DoJ will remove the order of Zatkoff and order him to fuck off on women's body.
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 03:08 PM
Dec 2012

Stupid.

And order Monoghan to shut down Ave Maria and force him to eat the cost of the completion of the shutdown.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
5. I'd like the firm to prove its religious sincerity.
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 03:09 PM
Dec 2012

Does it go to church every week?
Does it donate to charity?
Does it break any of the commandments?

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