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muriel_volestrangler

(104,910 posts)
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 07:44 AM Thursday

Police shoot suspect as at least two people killed in car and knife attack at Manchester synagogue

Source: The Guardian

Two people have died and three remain in a serious condition after a suspected terror attack outside a synagogue in Crumpsall by a man believed to have been shot dead by police, Greater Manchester police said.

Police shot the suspect after one person was stabbed and a car was driven at members of the public at the Heaton Park Hebrew Congregation synagogue.

The force said it had “declared Plato” – the national codeword used by police and emergency services when responding to a “marauding terror attack” – at 9.37am.
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“A third person, a man believed to be the offender, was shot by GMP firearms officers and is also believed to be deceased. It cannot currently be confirmed due to safety issues surround suspicious items on his person. The bomb disposal unit has been called and is now at the scene.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/oct/02/police-at-scene-of-reported-stabbing-at-synagogue-in-manchester



This is Manchester, England, to be clear.

Live BBC coverage: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cx2703lnww4t
and The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2025/oct/02/police-reports-stabbing-synagogue-greater-manchester-live
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Police shoot suspect as at least two people killed in car and knife attack at Manchester synagogue (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Thursday OP
Damn Solly Mack Thursday #1
Picture of the suspect with things (bomb?) tied around his waist: EX500rider Thursday #2
Not enough police presence? question everything Thursday #3
The attacker was shot dead by the police within 7 minutes. maxsolomon Thursday #4
Wow, his name was literally "Jihad" EX500rider Thursday #5
Should have been a red flag when he was let in Polybius Thursday #6
When he was under 5? muriel_volestrangler Friday #7
Why not? Polybius Friday #8
Because the UK aren't fascists? (nt) muriel_volestrangler Friday #9
Two people died (with others in serious condition), and you're still saying it was the right idea to let them in? Polybius Friday #11
I'm saying that this in not "Minority Report", and officials can't see 30 years in the future muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #12
The parents naming him that was a red flag, showing their potential extremism Polybius 7 hrs ago #13
Manchester synagogue terrorist was on bail for alleged rape muriel_volestrangler Friday #10

maxsolomon

(37,467 posts)
4. The attacker was shot dead by the police within 7 minutes.
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 01:32 PM
Thursday

It sounds as if they responded immediately. They just couldn't prevent it from starting.

EX500rider

(11,995 posts)
5. Wow, his name was literally "Jihad"
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 06:21 PM
Thursday
The attacker, Jihad Al-Shamie, a 35-year-old British man described as being of Syrian decent.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpd93x0ql0do

muriel_volestrangler

(104,910 posts)
7. When he was under 5?
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 04:09 AM
Friday
According to the force he is "a British citizen of Syrian descent".

ITV News understands he was a father and his family had lived in Greater Manchester for at least 30 years.

Al-Shamie was understood to have entered the UK as a young child and been granted British citizenship in 2006 when he was around the age of 16. His father appears to have worked as a trauma surgeon for several NGOs in warzones across the world.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/major-incident-stabbing-synagogue-102938998.html

You'd really ban a family coming into a country in the 90s, because their son was called "Jihad"?

Polybius

(20,933 posts)
8. Why not?
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 05:17 AM
Friday

It would turn out that it would have been the right thing to do, as lives were lost. I'd certainly ban his parents from entering the UK, after naming their kid Jihad.

Polybius

(20,933 posts)
11. Two people died (with others in serious condition), and you're still saying it was the right idea to let them in?
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 07:47 PM
Friday

It's not fascist to understand that the UK has a serious refuge problem, with a huge amount refusing to assimilate.

muriel_volestrangler

(104,910 posts)
12. I'm saying that this in not "Minority Report", and officials can't see 30 years in the future
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 04:35 AM
Yesterday

I mean, yes, the father is a trauma surgeon who has worked with the ICRC in war zones around the world like South Sudan. So he's done a lot of good. And given the timeline, he was probably already a surgeon, or a surgeon in training, when they came in. It was not a "refugee" situation.

The killer was an awful person at the end; but he hadn't been associated with extremism. Most of his life does not seem to have been a problem. So your idea that his first name indicated he was destined to be evil is just - bonkers.

Polybius

(20,933 posts)
13. The parents naming him that was a red flag, showing their potential extremism
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 09:11 PM
7 hrs ago

But it goes beyond that for me. I wouldn't have granted them asylum regardless of their names. UK has a refugee problem.

muriel_volestrangler

(104,910 posts)
10. Manchester synagogue terrorist was on bail for alleged rape
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 05:44 PM
Friday
The Manchester synagogue terrorist was on police bail for an alleged rape when he carried out the attack, the Guardian can reveal.

Jihad al-Shamie, 35, was being investigated over an alleged sexual attack, which it is understood was said to have taken place earlier this year.

The Syrian-born attacker is also believed to have criminal convictions, although he was not on the radar of counter-terrorism officers or of MI5.

Police said on Friday night that they believed Shamie “may have been influenced by extreme Islamist ideology”, but added: “Establishing the full circumstances of the attack is likely to take some time.”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/oct/03/manchester-synagogue-terrorist-was-on-bail-for-alleged
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