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BumRushDaShow

(162,524 posts)
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 03:26 PM Thursday

Prince Andrew to be stripped of titles and move out of Royal Lodge

Last edited Thu Oct 30, 2025, 05:15 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: The Guardian

Thu 30 Oct 2025 16.40 EDT
First published on Thu 30 Oct 2025 15.18 EDT


Prince Andrew is to be stripped of his royal titles and will move out of his home at the Royal Lodge in Windsor, Buckingham Palace has announced. King Charles has initiated a “formal process to remove the style, titles and honours of Prince Andrew”, who will now be known as Andrew Mountbatten Windsor, the palace said. It is understood the king had the support of the Prince of Wales in the decision and Andrew did not object to the process.

The decision follows anxiety within the royal household about the reputational risk to the monarchy caused by continual headlines concerning Andrew’s friendship with the late child sex offender Jeffrey Epstein and allegations of sexual assault against him by one of Epstein’s victims Virginia Giuffre. This month the Guardian published extracts from the posthumous memoir of Giuffre, who died by suicide in April, aged 41. In the book she claimed the prince “believed that having sex with me was his birthright”.

Andrew has always denied claims he had sex with Giuffre when she was 17, and settled a civil case with her for a reported £12m with no admission of liability. Buckingham Palace said in a statement: “Prince Andrew will now be known as Andrew Mountbatten Windsor. “His lease on Royal Lodge has, to date, provided him with legal protection to continue in residence. Formal notice has now been served to surrender the lease and he will move to alternative private accommodation. These censures are deemed necessary, notwithstanding the fact that he continues to deny the allegations against him.

“Their majesties wish to make clear that their thoughts and utmost sympathies have been, and will remain with, the victims and survivors of any and all forms of abuse.” It is understood that Andrew will move to a property on the private Sandringham estate in Norfolk, to be privately funded by the king. His ex-wife, Sarah Ferguson, will also move out of Royal Lodge and will sort out her own living arrangements.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/oct/30/prince-andrew-leave-royal-lodge-windsor



Just breaking.

Article updated.

Previous article -

Thu 30 Oct 2025 15.46 EDT
First published on Thu 30 Oct 2025 15.18 EDT


Prince Andrew is to leave his home at Royal Lodge in Windsor after he was served with a formal notice to surrender the lease, Buckingham Palace has said. King Charles has initiated a "formal process to remove the style, titles and honours of Prince Andrew", who will now be known as Andrew Mountbatten Windsor, the palace said. Andrew did not object to the process, PA reported.

Andrew's links to the child sex offender and financier Jeffrey Epstein continue to cause controversy. It is understood that although he denies the accusations, Buckingham Palace considers there have been "serious lapses of judgment". Buckingham Palace said in a statement: "Prince Andrew will now be known as Andrew Mountbatten Windsor. His lease on Royal Lodge has, to date, provided him with legal protection to continue in residence.

"Formal notice has now been served to surrender the lease and he will move to alternative private accommodation. These censures are deemed necessary, notwithstanding the fact that he continues to deny the allegations against him. "Their majesties wish to make clear that their thoughts and utmost sympathies have been, and will remain with, the victims and survivors of any and all forms of abuse."

It is understood that Prince Andrew will move to a property on the private Sandringham estate in Norfolk, the BBC reported, to be privately funded by the king.



Original article/headline -

Prince Andrew to be stripped of titles and move out of Royal Lodge, Buckingham Palace says

Thu 30 Oct 2025 15.18 EDT


Prince Andrew is to leave his home at Royal Lodge in Windsor after he was served with a formal notice to surrender the lease, Buckingham Palace has said.

King Charles has initiated a "formal process to remove the Style, Titles and Honours of Prince Andrew", who will now be known as Andrew Mountbatten Windsor, the palace said.

Buckingham Palace said in a statement: "Prince Andrew will now be known as Andrew Mountbatten Windsor. His lease on Royal Lodge has, to date, provided him with legal protection to continue in residence.

"Formal notice has now been served to surrender the lease and he will move to alternative private accommodation. These censures are deemed necessary, notwithstanding the fact that he continues to deny the allegations against him.
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Prince Andrew to be stripped of titles and move out of Royal Lodge (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Thursday OP
Prince William is cleaning up the Royals Attilatheblond Thursday #1
How about WmChris Thursday #11
It would need to be proven in court. maxsolomon Thursday #21
The teen aged girl who was made to service him is dead. Pretty hard to convict without live witnesses. Attilatheblond Thursday #22
so, you're saying putting Andrew Windsor in prison maxsolomon Thursday #28
Our DOJ favorite term "unreliable witness". republianmushroom Thursday #29
Agreed Grim Chieftain Thursday #45
I feel bad for King Charles and for Andrew's daughters SpankMe Thursday #2
they didn't HAVE to do any such thing stopdiggin Thursday #18
I'm pretty sure this was what Queen Elizabeth wanted to have happen FakeNoose Thursday #24
"...Nobody is coming to his rescue, either"? That says it all, right there. calimary Thursday #33
So essentially you're saying that the Queen kicked the 'tawdry' bit on down the road stopdiggin Thursday #46
The story was given out to non-tabloid papers that Andrew came and told his mother in a private convo FakeNoose Thursday #48
the post I responded to said this is what the queen wanted stopdiggin Thursday #50
You may be right about that FakeNoose Thursday #51
Yup. He did the right thing. Joinfortmill Thursday #36
Poor guy.... RandySF Thursday #3
With emphasis on "filthy." tblue37 Thursday #6
Yeah $5-9M US underpants Thursday #9
which is not exactly 'filthy' rich ? stopdiggin Thursday #20
6.6 to 9.2 million usd (at current FOREX) Celerity Thursday #30
I think I saw 3.7 somewhere underpants Thursday #35
3.7? At present FOREX, 1 GBP is worth roughly 1.33 USD. Celerity Thursday #40
This message was self-deleted by its author Escape Thursday #4
The next paragraph in the article says Wicked Blue Thursday #5
Sending him to Sandringham (which is a "private" estate they bought, rather than a historic one) muriel_volestrangler Thursday #7
Skittles trivia Skittles Thursday #32
Interesting! Kaleva Thursday #38
heh Skittles Thursday #44
Wow. Something more must have come out. yardwork Thursday #8
Too bad the U.S. won't react in a similar manner. We can't even get the government to release the Epstein files. ificandream Thursday #10
And in the US, the orange felon who has been photographed with Epstein became president Grim Chieftain Thursday #17
Not 'likely' a pedophile felon. Justice matters. Yesterday #56
or an unredacted Mueller report... Evolve Dammit Thursday #27
Oh the shame of getting caught. twodogsbarking Thursday #12
It's that time again when the royals pretend they just learned about Andrew and RockRaven Thursday #13
It's like they never figured out why he had the nickname "Randy Andy" HipChick Thursday #19
It seems very bitter canetoad Thursday #25
It should have happened as soon as he settled the Virginia Giuffre lawsuit in 2022 OnlinePoker Thursday #14
What will they do when more info comes out? BaronChocula Thursday #15
At some point I want to see Mr. Windsor... mwooldri Thursday #16
Tip of the fecal iceberg. Imagine long time, big-named US pols and celebs facing this. Epstein files. Demnation Thursday #23
soft landing for the pedo Evolve Dammit Thursday #26
The guy formerly known as Prince dflprincess Thursday #31
The Pedophile Formerly Known As Prince DinahMoeHum 18 hrs ago #59
Good. Joinfortmill Thursday #34
Great Britain, doing it right. Paladin Thursday #37
... out of the royal lodge, and.... reACTIONary Thursday #39
if only. n/t area51 Thursday #53
😪 Clouds Passing Thursday #41
Probably not a welcome reply Gymbo Thursday #42
Is this a coincidence that this action was johnnyfins Thursday #43
A leader is doing something right Marthe48 Thursday #47
For once in his life he should do the right thing moniss Thursday #49
Interesting that Fergie gets a pass... buzzycrumbhunger Thursday #52
If Only We Had An Even Vaguely Similar Form of Justice These Days The Roux Comes First Thursday #54
To be known as Andrew Mountbatten Windsor Botany Yesterday #55
Why not prison? Fuck the royals. twodogsbarking 21 hrs ago #57
The old moniker "RANDY ANDY" was CORRECT after all! ProudMNDemocrat 21 hrs ago #58
I know a Epstein type pedophile I'd like stripped of his titles. NNadir 16 hrs ago #60

WmChris

(474 posts)
11. How about
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 03:41 PM
Thursday

How about prison for pedophiles rather than comfortable retirement in the country.

maxsolomon

(37,724 posts)
21. It would need to be proven in court.
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 04:19 PM
Thursday

So, sure. Put him on trial for rape.

Where do you see that happening? USVI?

Attilatheblond

(7,646 posts)
22. The teen aged girl who was made to service him is dead. Pretty hard to convict without live witnesses.
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 04:22 PM
Thursday

SpankMe

(3,627 posts)
2. I feel bad for King Charles and for Andrew's daughters
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 03:32 PM
Thursday

Having to strip your own brother of his entire royal status and kick him out of his house must feel terrible. And Beatrice and Eugenie have to live under this for the rest of their lives. Dang

This is a sad story for everyone it touched.

I just wish we had the systems and courage in this country to hold our own high-level abusers to account.

stopdiggin

(14,605 posts)
18. they didn't HAVE to do any such thing
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 04:10 PM
Thursday

This is a calculated public relations operation. (and while one can argue the position that is was necessary ... )
It still bears the element of the tabloid - and the tawdry.

FakeNoose

(39,213 posts)
24. I'm pretty sure this was what Queen Elizabeth wanted to have happen
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 04:27 PM
Thursday

She just delayed the full punishment until after she was gone. The kids (including King Charles) are carrying out their mother's final wish for Andrew. The only thing that wasn't made clear was kicking him out of the Royal Residence.

He's still a multi-millionaire, and he can live on his investments quite comfortably. He just can't be a "royal" anymore. Nobody is coming to his rescue either ... those bridges were burned long ago.

calimary

(88,324 posts)
33. "...Nobody is coming to his rescue, either"? That says it all, right there.
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 05:19 PM
Thursday

I can only guess, but I suspect this was talked over, within the family, and it looks like there were no objections.

Charles has to think of the wellbeing of his whole family and the throne that’s been entrusted to him (and them), well into the future.

He’s always shown himself to be a serious thinker and evaluator. Charles has things, events, and dynamics to consider that few others in the world have in their shoulders. And as someone who’s watched the royal family for years, it strikes me that he understands the weight of responsibility that he has to live with. And it’s probably ground into him from childhood. His sibs got to relax a little, to varying degrees, but nobody has played more fast ‘n’ loose than his brother Andrew has.

stopdiggin

(14,605 posts)
46. So essentially you're saying that the Queen kicked the 'tawdry' bit on down the road
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 08:26 PM
Thursday

in an effort to have the 'tabloid' bit land on someone else?

I guess I'm okay with that.
(I am neither a royal hater, nor a part of the fan club. I do, however, absolutely loath the tabloids - and all that they represent. On both sides of the pond. )

FakeNoose

(39,213 posts)
48. The story was given out to non-tabloid papers that Andrew came and told his mother in a private convo
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 10:01 PM
Thursday

This happened when it became obvious that Andrew was going to be served with lawsuits and summonses by Virginia Roberts' lawyers. Andrew knew that his mother was going to hear everything anyway, and he preferred that she hear it from him.

The Queen told him immediately to resign from all of his speaking engagements and appearances representing the royal family. He was to keep out of sight and out of the media as much as he could manage. They tried to keep it hushed up as much as possible, when Andrew's lawyers made offers to settle the lawsuit etc. I think there were 2 lawsuits, one in the US and one in Britain. A lot of it was posted on DU because that's where I read about it.

stopdiggin

(14,605 posts)
50. the post I responded to said this is what the queen wanted
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 10:39 PM
Thursday

your own account says, "not really."

And - I will maintain that dumping Andrew - is a public relations move on the part of the royals. (and a bit cheesy and shallow along with it)
The wild card here (that I admit to having no idea about) - is the recurrent theme/suggestion - that this move by the family is predicated on a 'more and worse to come' scenario.

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FakeNoose

(39,213 posts)
51. You may be right about that
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 10:49 PM
Thursday

I'm pretty sure that the royal siblings all knew what Andrew was getting away with, long before he finally told his mom. They didn't want to be the ones to tell her and I can't blame them a bit.

underpants

(193,654 posts)
9. Yeah $5-9M US
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 03:39 PM
Thursday

Prince Andrew's exact net worth is not publicly confirmed, but it is estimated to be between £5 million and £7 million, with a significant portion likely tied to his assets.

Celerity

(52,810 posts)
30. 6.6 to 9.2 million usd (at current FOREX)
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 04:55 PM
Thursday
but it is estimated to be between £5 million and £7 million

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Wicked Blue

(8,326 posts)
5. The next paragraph in the article says
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 03:35 PM
Thursday

“Their Majesties wish to make clear that their thoughts and utmost sympathies have been, and will remain with, the victims and survivors of any and all forms of abuse.”

To which I say, "Good."

muriel_volestrangler

(105,102 posts)
7. Sending him to Sandringham (which is a "private" estate they bought, rather than a historic one)
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 03:35 PM
Thursday

The BBC did a list of possibilities earlier. This moves him handily well away from London (though not as far as the Castle of Mey option would have - that's at the northernmost bit of the British mainland).

Wood Farm, Norfolk
Further afield, there's also Wood Farm, on the Sandringham estate in Norfolk, which is privately owned by the monarch.

The cottage, described as "small and intimate" by former housekeeper Teresa Thompson, has strong associations with Prince Andrew's parents.

His father, the late Duke of Edinburgh, chose the secluded property as his permanent home when he retired from public life in 2017.

He and the late Queen already regularly stayed there in preference to opening up Sandringham House when it was just the two of them.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c781j7pz87xo

Skittles

(168,351 posts)
32. Skittles trivia
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 05:06 PM
Thursday

my grandmother was an occasional cleaner at Sandringham.......I played there a few times

Skittles

(168,351 posts)
44. heh
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 06:47 PM
Thursday

I still remember the astonishment of a permanent staff member at my American accent

yardwork

(68,434 posts)
8. Wow. Something more must have come out.
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 03:36 PM
Thursday

Last week reports were saying that he would keep his title as prince and live in royal housing.

There must be even worse information being hidden. I wonder if other victims have come forward.

ificandream

(11,517 posts)
10. Too bad the U.S. won't react in a similar manner. We can't even get the government to release the Epstein files.
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 03:39 PM
Thursday

Grim Chieftain

(815 posts)
17. And in the US, the orange felon who has been photographed with Epstein became president
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 04:05 PM
Thursday

Yeah, how's that working for us? A felon and likely pedophile became president. This country has gone to hell.

Justice matters.

(9,047 posts)
56. Not 'likely' a pedophile felon.
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 02:57 AM
Yesterday

Sneaking in backstage to 'inspect' beauty contestants - many of them still minors - changing (nude) fully qualify for the 'title' and according to a 13-year-old victim, on tape, alleging the convicted felon raped her violently.

One way or the other (or both) means 'not likely' a pedophile but a real one.

Started with his own daughter.

RockRaven

(18,213 posts)
13. It's that time again when the royals pretend they just learned about Andrew and
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 03:46 PM
Thursday

wish to be seen to be doing something, their past tolerance/apathy not to be mentioned or remembered by the press reporting this "news."

Just like every other time.

canetoad

(19,753 posts)
25. It seems very bitter
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 04:37 PM
Thursday

To be complaining about other countries, considering the state of US politics.

OnlinePoker

(6,038 posts)
14. It should have happened as soon as he settled the Virginia Giuffre lawsuit in 2022
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 03:48 PM
Thursday

The royals backed him the whole time from when the allegations arose in 2015 (?), so waiting another 3 years after the settlement and after Giuffre's suicide was too long.

mwooldri

(10,751 posts)
16. At some point I want to see Mr. Windsor...
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 04:02 PM
Thursday

... assuming he gets found guilty of a crime... spend some time at His Majesty's Pleasure... HMP Belmarsh probably.

Demnation

(430 posts)
23. Tip of the fecal iceberg. Imagine long time, big-named US pols and celebs facing this. Epstein files.
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 04:23 PM
Thursday

dflprincess

(29,062 posts)
31. The guy formerly known as Prince
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 05:06 PM
Thursday

Needs to go public with everything he knows. He deserves what he gets but why should he be the only one facing consequences?

Paladin

(31,850 posts)
37. Great Britain, doing it right.
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 05:37 PM
Thursday

And making trump and this country's power structure look feeble and corrupt, by comparison.

Gymbo

(173 posts)
42. Probably not a welcome reply
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 05:58 PM
Thursday

This is an excellent opportunity for England to discuss retiring the monarchy altogether. Other countries have done a good job making their monarchies minor ceremonial only, why not the rest of them? Please do it before there is any more MAGA talk of making Trump a king.

johnnyfins

(3,160 posts)
43. Is this a coincidence that this action was
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 06:25 PM
Thursday

taken not long after TSF's highly unusual 2nd state visit to Britain?

moniss

(8,271 posts)
49. For once in his life he should do the right thing
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 10:06 PM
Thursday

and now spill his guts to international investigators about who he knew participated, his knowledge of how it was conducted and not shrink from naming the powerful since he now has none.

buzzycrumbhunger

(1,422 posts)
52. Interesting that Fergie gets a pass...
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 11:10 PM
Thursday

Wasn’t that long ago that reports came out about her being sympathetic to her “dear friend” Epstein, so I find it odd that she’s not mentioned here. I guess they figure she only married the pedo and hasn’t got her own title to remove. I also still find it weird that they were divorced in the early ‘90s but somehow still live together. What was the basis for divorce and how involved was she in the Pedo Island frolics? I’ve seen reports she’s very bitter about this whole upset in her lifestyle. *cue violins*

The daughters are somehow distanced from all this because they seem to have fairly normal marriages and family lives—and lots of sympathy for being related to a couple of really horrible, selfish people.

The whole situation is just weird.

The Roux Comes First

(1,925 posts)
54. If Only We Had An Even Vaguely Similar Form of Justice These Days
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 11:54 PM
Thursday

The former party of "law and order" has morphed into a cowardly band that is frightened by either "law" or "order." Or, basically, the bully they never can face up to.

Botany

(75,716 posts)
55. To be known as Andrew Mountbatten Windsor
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 12:00 AM
Yesterday

Sounds and reads like a regal title to me,

How about “Andy the Child Rapist?”

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,368 posts)
58. The old moniker "RANDY ANDY" was CORRECT after all!
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 08:45 AM
21 hrs ago

Play with fire, expect to get burned.

So sad, former Royal known as Prince Andrew.

NNadir

(36,834 posts)
60. I know a Epstein type pedophile I'd like stripped of his titles.
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 01:48 PM
16 hrs ago

I'd also like to see him in prison.

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