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BumRushDaShow

(163,781 posts)
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 04:36 PM Nov 12

Jeffrey Epstein files: House petition secures final signature to force vote on releasing docs

Source: CNBC

Published Wed, Nov 12 2025 4:33 PM EST Updated 5 Min Ago


A petition in the House of Representatives to force a vote to release the so-called Jeffrey Epstein files on Wednesday secured the last signature required to trigger that action.

Rep. Adelita Grijalva, D-Ariz., provided the 218th signature needed to approve the petition shortly after she was sworn in as a House member, after a seven-week delay.

The Trump administration has been under fire for months for reneging on promises to release investigative files related to Epstein, a convicted sex offender who killed himself in 2019 after his arrest on child sex trafficking charges. Epstein had been a friend of President Donald Trump for years before they had a falling out in the early 2000s.

House Democrats earlier Wednesday released more than 20,000 documents obtained from Epstein’s estate under a subpoena. The documents include emails and text messages in which Epstein talked about Trump.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/12/jeffrey-epstein-files-house-vote-grijalva.html



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Published Wed, Nov 12 2025 4:33 PM EST Updated 1 Min Ago


A petition in the House of Representatives to force a vote to release the so-called Jeffrey Epstein files on Wednesday secured the last signature required to trigger that action.

Rep. Adelita Grilalva, D-Ariz., provided the 218th signature needed to approve the petition shortly after she was sworn in as a House member, after weeks of delay.


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Jeffrey Epstein files: House petition secures final signature to force vote on releasing docs (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 12 OP
So Boebert did not relent? SSJVegeta Nov 12 #1
Nor the loon Nancy Mace BumRushDaShow Nov 12 #7
And supposedly, now that REP Grijavla has provided the 218th signature.... COL Mustard Nov 12 #10
This is only a discharge petition Bluetus Nov 13 #27
And I love writing COL Mustard Nov 12 #11
I'm feeling pretty damned confident about the midterms Torchlight Nov 12 #2
Kick +100000000 bronxiteforever Nov 12 #3
Just in time for the Xmas holiday season . . . Journeyman Nov 12 #4
Just hope it's not another "Fitzmas" debacle RazorbackExpat Nov 13 #26
I'm starting to smile again. Borogove Nov 12 #5
Don't be surprised if some of the GQP moniss Nov 12 #6
That won't matter. Trump would veto the measure if it passes, and that veto won't be overturned. TheRickles Nov 12 #9
Yes indeed I agree with that but I was focusing strictly on the House moniss Nov 12 #13
Agreed - these are good points. Interesting times.... TheRickles Nov 12 #15
I think there are more GOPs who will vote for it.... reACTIONary Nov 12 #20
Awesome! FakeNoose Nov 12 #8
They get to delay this until the fourth Monday of the month, right? nt Gore1FL Nov 12 #12
That used to be the rule, but I think it was changed in 2019 onenote Nov 12 #16
Update: Johnson reportedly wants to accelerate the process onenote Nov 12 #22
Especially the financial records. Maybe we can get to the bottom of many things, like Deutsche Bank and Justice Kennedy' travelingthrulife Nov 12 #14
Trump must be calling Reps madly right now. Kablooie Nov 12 #17
Permanent marker working overtime. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 12 #18
Evidently, he and his were working the phones like crazy, trying to talk a few calimary Nov 13 #25
Recommended. H2O Man Nov 12 #19
Kicked and recommended Uncle Joe Nov 12 #21
I'm getting the feeling timms139 Nov 12 #23
... SirReal69 Nov 13 #24

COL Mustard

(7,837 posts)
10. And supposedly, now that REP Grijavla has provided the 218th signature....
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 05:10 PM
Nov 12

They can't remove their names from it. This may get very interesting very fast.

Bluetus

(1,988 posts)
27. This is only a discharge petition
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 06:42 AM
Nov 13

That only serves go around Mikey to get a floor vote. They can vote against it when it comes to a vote.

And if it passes, it may take years to get any meaningful information. Patel will slow-walk it. He will deny he has documents. He will give up each document kicking and screaming, And they willbe so redacted as to be almost solid black. This will have to go through the courts, which will take an eternity.

And in the end, how do you prove that they have released everything? They have probably destroyed the most incriminating stuff months ago.

So then there will have to be a process of getting testimony from whistle blowers who will only be able to describe what the pictures and videos showed.

Torchlight

(6,152 posts)
2. I'm feeling pretty damned confident about the midterms
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 04:41 PM
Nov 12

this is grade-A, fresh off the vine scandal about lies, underage girls, private islands, and a wealthy cabal of degenerates. It's gonna take a lot of money to wipe this stink off vulnerable GOP lackeys while their MAGA constituents continue to demand an undeliverable denouement to Mr trump's campaign prmises.

Journeyman

(15,412 posts)
4. Just in time for the Xmas holiday season . . .
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 04:43 PM
Nov 12

Now we're truly going to learn who's been naughty (not nice).

moniss

(8,465 posts)
6. Don't be surprised if some of the GQP
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 05:00 PM
Nov 12

reps on the petition vote no when the actual vote comes. I haven't read whether the vote will need more than a majority in the House. I can't imagine that Crumb the 1st and others behind the scenes aren't promising major money to Reps to shoot down the whole thing. Remember the Supreme Court has said there's nothing wrong if a large amount of money shows up in an officials account before or after a vote.

TheRickles

(3,084 posts)
9. That won't matter. Trump would veto the measure if it passes, and that veto won't be overturned.
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 05:10 PM
Nov 12

But this petition keeps the heat on, and puts all the R's on record as supporting a cover-up. While those 20k newly public documents just add fuel to the fire (the Epstein/Russia link today).

moniss

(8,465 posts)
13. Yes indeed I agree with that but I was focusing strictly on the House
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 05:34 PM
Nov 12

vote and the GQP members who are on the petition maybe voting against it in the end. Politically one or more of them would face major backlash from their MAGA base and that could get them a challenger who is even more whacked than they are. In that case that seat could be an opportunity if the district is only slightly majority MAGA. Either way I would find it hard to believe that huge amounts of money aren't being promised to get things to go the way of Crumb The 1st.

reACTIONary

(6,865 posts)
20. I think there are more GOPs who will vote for it....
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 09:32 PM
Nov 12

.... than the two (?).required to get out the discharge petition. I think signing a discharge petition in defiance of leadership is a more severe act of defiance than voting for the measure once it comes up for a vote. So maybe a few more will go for it.

onenote

(45,882 posts)
16. That used to be the rule, but I think it was changed in 2019
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 06:18 PM
Nov 12

It may have been changed back, but I haven't been able to find anything saying that it has.

As I understand it, this is the current procedure:

After the 218 signature threshold is reached, an additional seven legislative days must elapse before a Member who signed the petition may notify the House in a floor statement of an intention to offer the discharge motion on the floor. The motion may then be called up by that Member at a time or place, designated by the Speaker, in the legislative schedule within two legislative days after the day on which a Member whose signature appears thereon announces to the House an intention to offer the motion. The discharge motion is debatable for twenty minutes, equally divided between the proponents and an opponent and is not subject to a motion to table. If the motion to discharge a bill is adopted, it is in order to move that the House immediately consider the bill itself.

Thus, it will be at least a week before the discharge petition is brought up for a vote. One wild card is that a "legislative day" is not the same as a "calendar day" and I wouldn't put it past Johnson to muck around with the designation of a "legislative day" to delay a vote. In addition, my understanding is that the vote on the underlying bill is subject to ordinary parliamentary procedure, so a "motion to table" would be in order.

And, in the end, even if the bill passes, it has to go to the Senate and get 60 votes to be considered. And unless their is a seismic change in the repub caucus, that unlikely to happen. And in the event the bill does make it through the Senate, it can and almost certainly would be vetoed by Trump. Finding enough repubs that would vote to override that veto is yet another hurdle.

In the end, the likely benefit of the discharge procedure isn't going to be the release of the Epstein files. It's going to be forcing repubs in the House and, hopefully the Senate, to go on record opposing the release of the Epstein files.

travelingthrulife

(3,905 posts)
14. Especially the financial records. Maybe we can get to the bottom of many things, like Deutsche Bank and Justice Kennedy'
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 05:53 PM
Nov 12

Kablooie

(19,022 posts)
17. Trump must be calling Reps madly right now.
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 07:51 PM
Nov 12

He’s got to convince enough of them to vote no so that it isn’t released.

calimary

(88,602 posts)
25. Evidently, he and his were working the phones like crazy, trying to talk a few
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 12:58 AM
Nov 13

Republicans to change their minds and vote the way the donald wants.

Evidently, that effort did not succeed!

timms139

(454 posts)
23. I'm getting the feeling
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 10:16 PM
Nov 12

is that what Trump doesn't want is that he got caught and turned informant against Epstein for immunity. All worked out by his lawyer friend the prosecutor .He I think is afraid all that info will be released and expose him as a pedo that way .

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