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BumRushDaShow

(163,955 posts)
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 04:07 PM Tuesday

Anti-fascist groups named as US terror threats 'barely exist', experts say

Source: The Guardian

Tue 25 Nov 2025 08.00 EST
Last modified on Tue 25 Nov 2025 12.24 EST


Experts have told the Guardian the same anti-fascist groups the US state department recently named as foreign terrorist organizations and accused of “conspiring to undermine foundations of western civilization” barely qualify as groups, let alone terrorist organizations, and pose no active threat to Americans.

“The whole thing is a bit ridiculous,” said Heidi Beirich, co-founder of the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism, which tracks extremist movements worldwide, “because the groups designated by the administration barely exist and certainly aren’t terrorists.”

In a release put out earlier this month, the Trump administration, which has made no secret of its hatred for leftists in the US and abroad, named Antifa Ost in Germany, the Italy-based International Revolutionary Front, and two organisations in Greece – Armed Proletarian Justice and Revolutionary Class Self Defense – to its long list of designated terrorist organizations.

The four European groups, mostly protest collectives and streetfighters, find themselves in the company of the Islamic State and al-Qaida, the masterminds behind the 9/11 attacks, among others, as officially proscribed terrorist groups. “[They] pose absolutely no threat to the US,” said Beirich. “But this isn’t really about fighting terrorism. It’s about scaring the left and shifting the discussion away from far-right terrorism, which is where most real attacks are coming from in recent years.”

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/25/us-antifa-groups-terror-list

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Anti-fascist groups named as US terror threats 'barely exist', experts say (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Tuesday OP
Wow! Talk about consuming empty calories... Ford_Prefect Tuesday #1
The Tooth Fairies of America are a terrorist threat ... I'm SURE of it! FakeNoose Tuesday #2
And don't forget that fat guy from the north with his Elfs army. 😝 Dave Bowman Tuesday #14
I can't help thinking of this Monty Python bit when I read this genxlib Tuesday #3
......"...In the US and in Europe, far-right terrorism is statistically surging...." riversedge Tuesday #4
Good to see other countries publicly pointing out trump's idiocy Bayard Tuesday #5
That makes it easier to declare victory, see? tanyev Tuesday #6
Much easier... Harker Tuesday #7
They think there are GRUPS/ With LEADERS? And MANIFESTOS? Warpy Tuesday #8
tilting at windmills too also , no? AllaN01Bear Tuesday #10
Those windmills of the absolute worst. speak easy Tuesday #17
Some false-flagging may be afoot, also. John1956PA Tuesday #9
Heard a conservative on CNN today say all the violence is coming from one side: The Left. Midnight Writer Tuesday #11
Hell, even the folks who shoot at him are reich wingers. Dave Bowman Tuesday #15
The name "Antifa" literally came from MAGA shitcasters and influencers. Initech Tuesday #12
There is no ANTIFA! BidenRocks Tuesday #13
Yes there is. maxsolomon Tuesday #16
The ProFa's are also terrorists. They just don't think they are. mdbl Wednesday #20
100% they are. maxsolomon Wednesday #21
Not to mention that Germany, et al., deal with these so-called terrorists as law enforcement problems perfectly well. pat_k Tuesday #18
just another excuse for the fascists to round up anyone they want and THEN label then "terrorists".nt Javaman Wednesday #19

FakeNoose

(39,688 posts)
2. The Tooth Fairies of America are a terrorist threat ... I'm SURE of it!
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 04:12 PM
Tuesday

I'm terrified of Tooth Fairies! They must be arrested and deported immediately!



riversedge

(78,944 posts)
4. ......"...In the US and in Europe, far-right terrorism is statistically surging...."
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 04:24 PM
Tuesday

I wonder if Trump is going to start blowing up these groups ?????



..................As for the growing German AfD party, the most popular far-right political power in Germany since the Nazis, it hailed the Trump administration’s sweeping terrorist designations of its political enemies at home and in other allied countries.

It is the first time “antifa” groups are named to the FTO list and comes after years of Donald Trump accusing US anti-fascist activists of being a terrorist network, financed by a cabal of leftist donors, plotting against Americans. In the US and in Europe, far-right terrorism is statistically surging. Internationalist neo-Nazis, such as American-born extremist group the Base and the active club movement, have exported violent cells and chapters all over Europe, Oceania, and North America.

In the US, during the many Black Lives Matter protests following the police murder of George Floyd in Minneapolis, Trump called for the terrorist designation of anti-fascists. But the organizing principles of American and international anti-fascist activism is openly decentralized and mostly unorganized. Money and financial resources are known to be scarce among activists....................................

Harker

(17,190 posts)
7. Much easier...
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 05:55 PM
Tuesday

and easier to say anyone who speaks against the regime is a terrorist.

Warpy

(114,275 posts)
8. They think there are GRUPS/ With LEADERS? And MANIFESTOS?
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 06:09 PM
Tuesday

Fucking paranoid rich guys can keep chasing their tails forever, as far as I'm concerned.

speak easy

(12,530 posts)
17. Those windmills of the absolute worst.
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 07:17 PM
Tuesday

11 Don Coyote Canaries sliced into schnitzels this month alone brackets (so far!)

Won't somebody please think of the coyotes.

Midnight Writer

(25,033 posts)
11. Heard a conservative on CNN today say all the violence is coming from one side: The Left.
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 06:33 PM
Tuesday

Went unchallenged by the host and the other guests.

Initech

(107,007 posts)
12. The name "Antifa" literally came from MAGA shitcasters and influencers.
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 06:37 PM
Tuesday

Who spew nonsense daily.

maxsolomon

(37,944 posts)
16. Yes there is.
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 07:04 PM
Tuesday

They used to turn out in Portland to fight Patriot Prayer when they came into town to provoke.

I've been in marches with them waving Antifa flags. Mainly they're just lefty kids. They're not terrorists - even the Black Bloc crusties just break windows and spray-paint. That's not terror.

maxsolomon

(37,944 posts)
21. 100% they are.
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 02:50 PM
Wednesday

Talk to people in Portland who've dealt with Patriot Prayer's provocations. Which a small army of RW Influencers then films and propagandizes.

pat_k

(12,569 posts)
18. Not to mention that Germany, et al., deal with these so-called terrorists as law enforcement problems perfectly well.
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 09:13 PM
Tuesday

It is all just so f-ing absurd.

I think they were just so thrilled to find a street gang anywhere on the planet with "antifa" in it's name.

Just asinine.

Javaman

(64,969 posts)
19. just another excuse for the fascists to round up anyone they want and THEN label then "terrorists".nt
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 07:30 AM
Wednesday
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