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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 05:38 PM Jan 2013

Ohio Sheriff Confronts Protesters in Football Rape Case (Anonymous Rally)

Source: Reuters

Ohio sheriff confronts protesters in football rape case

STEUBENVILLE, OHIO | Sat Jan 5, 2013 4:30pm EST

By Drew Singer

STEUBENVILLE, Ohio (Reuters) - A county sheriff under fire for how he has handled a high school rape investigation faced down a raucous crowd of protesters on Saturday and said no further suspects would be charged in a case that has rattled Ohio football country.

Ma'lik Richmond and Trenton Mays, both 16 and members of the Steubenville High School football team, are charged with raping a 16-year-old fellow student at a party last August, according to statements from their attorneys.

Jefferson County Sheriff Fred Abdalla, accused of shielding the popular football program from a more rigorous investigation, told reporters no one else would be charged in the case, just moments after he addressed about 1,000 protesters gathered in front of the Jefferson County Courthouse.

- snip -

The protest's masked leader, standing atop a set of stairs outside the courthouse doors, invited up to the makeshift stage anyone who was a victim of sexual assault. Protesters immediately flooded the platform, which was slightly smaller than a boxing ring.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE9040BP20130105

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Ohio Sheriff Confronts Protesters in Football Rape Case (Anonymous Rally) (Original Post) Hissyspit Jan 2013 OP
"I'm not going to stand here and try to convince you that I'm not the bad guy" NYC Liberal Jan 2013 #1
Maybe to open his mouth and remove all doubt? Orrex Jan 2013 #2
why arent they going after the coaches that served booze in their house? why arent they going after seabeyond Jan 2013 #3
Because it's more christx30 Jan 2013 #4
i understand. but, the authority speaking said they did it all. no more arrests. all above board. seabeyond Jan 2013 #5
Football is the State Religion! Joe Bacon Jan 2013 #63
Your description is very informative lunatica Jan 2013 #66
The Paterno effect liberal N proud Jan 2013 #17
true that, about no heros. or idolize, or worship, lol. BUT... the sheriff is not to be believed. seabeyond Jan 2013 #24
I only have anti-heroes (like Yossarian of "Catch 22" or Holden Caufield of "Catcher in the coalition_unwilling Jan 2013 #48
And both fictional, I see. JackRiddler Jan 2013 #51
"no further suspects would be charged in a case" Solly Mack Jan 2013 #6
I want to know when the Feds are brought in - Minor brought across state lines for a crime & corrupt Pachamama Jan 2013 #11
In the late 90's, the DOJ investigated the Steubenville Police for various corruption Solly Mack Jan 2013 #18
So this quote at the end of the story... 2naSalit Jan 2013 #29
As if most people didn't already know... defacto7 Jan 2013 #43
In 1997, of course, someone other than Eric Holder was in charge of the DOJ. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2013 #58
Oh man Scairp Jan 2013 #41
As you said, and as supported by your link, "What about failure to report a crime?" AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2013 #59
Wow Scairp Jan 2013 #60
The community sounds like a very dangerous one. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2013 #61
So, investigation complete then? RedstDem Jan 2013 #7
Coaches provided alcohol to kids and others knew what was going on and failed to call police or stop appleannie1 Jan 2013 #8
He just keeps digging his hole deeper. Butterbean Jan 2013 #9
I thought only the Prosecutors can make statements like this on whether charges will be made? Pachamama Jan 2013 #10
Isn't one of the would-be prosecutors one of the kids' parents? (nt) Posteritatis Jan 2013 #54
Spreading the blame and responsibility siligut Jan 2013 #12
I suggest: anyone who lives in Ohio find out who your State's Attorney General is and petition them truedelphi Jan 2013 #13
I believe it's currently Mike DeWine Scairp Jan 2013 #57
Thanks for the info. The FBI won't get involved will they, unless the matter truedelphi Jan 2013 #67
Fuck discharge Jan 2013 #14
I live in Ohio and it is pretty bad given the GOP hold on government PuppyBismark Jan 2013 #16
I live in Ohio also. discharge Jan 2013 #20
cause they are blue, cause they are football, we cheer rape and call victim a sl*t? really, who the seabeyond Jan 2013 #22
I agree discharge Jan 2013 #27
I am a registered Democrat. surely being merely a dem, and not progressive, you support womans right seabeyond Jan 2013 #32
Dark blue? ForgoTheConsequence Jan 2013 #23
Steubenville discharge Jan 2013 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author seabeyond Jan 2013 #33
It used to be a Democratic stronghold in OH... countryjake Jan 2013 #35
Steubenville is not dark blue Tempest Jan 2013 #39
I live in Ohio, too, and I agree. Politically, Ohio is a cesspool. n/t truth2power Jan 2013 #55
more concerned about state reputation than girl drugged, dragged to 3 parties to be raped by others? seabeyond Jan 2013 #21
Didn't know discharge Jan 2013 #26
it's certainly earning one now.... mike_c Jan 2013 #28
you are the one that brought it up. what you have not mentioned or seem to care about, is a girl seabeyond Jan 2013 #34
Show us the Ohio bashing... Kalidurga Jan 2013 #30
Add Ohio State University to the list Tempest Jan 2013 #40
Thank you very much... Kalidurga Jan 2013 #46
No, there's no Utopian state where women are truly safe. countryjake Jan 2013 #36
I live in Ohio maindawg Jan 2013 #49
The best thing the town can do and especially the students of the schools in the area is to southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #15
State Attorney General Why Syzygy Jan 2013 #19
What evidence is there of this private back room meeting at the Naples doc03 Jan 2013 #45
I'm guessing no evidence other than an anonymous internet rumor. doc03 Jan 2013 #47
You have already shown your bias by admitting that you are acquainted Lars39 Jan 2013 #50
Given the context Why Syzygy Jan 2013 #52
I also read here onDU a couple days ago that the meeting was at the Spot Bar, they must have gone doc03 Jan 2013 #65
Incredible rightsideout Jan 2013 #31
You are probably right. defacto7 Jan 2013 #44
I agree! Why Syzygy Jan 2013 #56
The county sheriff is no longer on the case or part of the investigation Tempest Jan 2013 #37
Mike DeWine would love to have a big old riqster Jan 2013 #38
#KnightSec: The FBI is now involved. #sofarsogood Tempest Jan 2013 #42
Little Hocking Ohio 2010 Marthe48 Jan 2013 #53
Here is Steubenville's newspaper rerport happyslug Jan 2013 #62
the FBI has to come and investigate lovuian Jan 2013 #64

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
1. "I'm not going to stand here and try to convince you that I'm not the bad guy"
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 05:42 PM
Jan 2013

He says that, but why address them at all then?

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
3. why arent they going after the coaches that served booze in their house? why arent they going after
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 05:49 PM
Jan 2013

prosecutor that abused her powers?

it is not just the boys that raped the girl.

there were other obvious, in our face crimes committed.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
4. Because it's more
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 05:54 PM
Jan 2013

important to have a winning football program than it is to protect children from crime.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
5. i understand. but, the authority speaking said they did it all. no more arrests. all above board.
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 05:56 PM
Jan 2013

seeing these three adults, not to mention the booster fan that had child porn with a camera in a school bathroom, clearly shows they are not about taking care of the crime. they got there two, and case closed.

Joe Bacon

(5,165 posts)
63. Football is the State Religion!
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 02:03 PM
Jan 2013

I'm from Western PA. I know all too well that Football is the State religion and each school's Football team are treated as gods and people grovel before each School's football coach. When I lived in Ambridge PA, the biggest chunk of the school district budget was for the football team. The coach got privileges that mere teachers could only dream about. Never mind that the textbooks were out of date, supplies were always running short and the building was in disrepair! The town lived for football, and School Directors knew that if they didn't have a winning team, they'd lose their seat on the Board.

And the result of all that football worship? The whole area is economically dead. It's been dead ever since the steel industry died in 1984.

I also know Fred. He worked with my Dad in the Boilermakers Union. If Fred made a single move against anyone involved with the football team, he'd be recalled. That's a fact.

Fred deserves credit for appearing at the rally. Others in the same situation would hide.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
66. Your description is very informative
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 03:10 PM
Jan 2013

And the last sentence about Fred being recalled if he pursued the criminals explains a lot.

liberal N proud

(60,344 posts)
17. The Paterno effect
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 06:29 PM
Jan 2013

Protecting the hero coach.

This is why I have no heros, they can't disappoint that way.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
24. true that, about no heros. or idolize, or worship, lol. BUT... the sheriff is not to be believed.
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 06:36 PM
Jan 2013

that is evident by leaving these three adults alone.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
48. I only have anti-heroes (like Yossarian of "Catch 22" or Holden Caufield of "Catcher in the
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 10:15 PM
Jan 2013

Rye&quot .

Come to think of it, I'm the anti-hero of my own narrative

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
11. I want to know when the Feds are brought in - Minor brought across state lines for a crime & corrupt
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 06:10 PM
Jan 2013

...law enforcement officers including (or perhaps especially Sheriff Abdalla) and even an Officer of the court whose son was involved, even if it was as a witness and her house a crime scene.

This whole thing is rotten to the core....

Solly Mack

(90,780 posts)
18. In the late 90's, the DOJ investigated the Steubenville Police for various corruption
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 06:29 PM
Jan 2013

charges. For years of corruption.


"In August 1997, a second consent degree was reached with a police department under the "pattern or practice" provision, with the city of Steubenville, Ohio and its police force.218 In its complaint, the Justice Department alleges the city and the police department have engaged in a pattern or practice of subjecting individuals to excessive force, false arrests, charges, and reports, improper stops, searches, and seizures.219 The complaint states that Steubenville officials have caused and condoned this conduct through their inadequate use-of-force policies; inappropriate off-duty-conduct policies; and failure to supervise, train, discipline, monitor and investigate police officers and alleged misconduct. Among the offenses, Steubenville police officers allegedly used excessive force against individuals who witnessed incidents of police misconduct, who were known critics of the department or were disliked by individual officers, and who were falsely arrested or chargedpersons believed likely to complain of abuse. Further, officers allegedly falsified reports and tampered with official police recorders so that misconduct would not be recorded."

http://www.columbia.edu/itc/journalism/cases/katrina/Human%20Rights%20Watch/uspohtml/uspo36.htm


And there seems to be an almost incestuous connection between local officials, the various courts, as well as the police and sheriff's department. Almost everyone is related in some way.

2naSalit

(86,775 posts)
29. So this quote at the end of the story...
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 06:57 PM
Jan 2013
"People have got their minds made up," he said. "A case like this, who would want to cover any of it up?"

Duuuhh, geeze, let me think about that for almost a nano-second...

Time for the DOJ to get on top of this pile of stinking poo.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
43. As if most people didn't already know...
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 08:51 PM
Jan 2013

Their Sheriffs department is not alone in these same crimes mentioned. Sheriffs departments all over the US are as corrupt as can be imagined. There is little to stop them and most Sheriffs and their chosen deputies are notorious for sadistic, sociopathic character. They are the untouchables because they must have complete unfettered control over people and that breeds corruption. Prosecutors depend on them like bullies or bouncers and they deliver. They are paid to be bullies.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
58. In 1997, of course, someone other than Eric Holder was in charge of the DOJ.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 02:48 AM
Jan 2013

Unless the local officials and the football players are selling State-approved medical marijuana, there is less than a 50-50 chance that he will do anything.

Scairp

(2,749 posts)
41. Oh man
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 08:28 PM
Jan 2013

They really have a cow when bringing in the FBI is mentioned. They REALLY do not want that. That sheriff has to go, the prosecutor has to go, and that football coach really has to go, and those two thugs need to be sent over to adult court. Time to clean house in Steubenville.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
59. As you said, and as supported by your link, "What about failure to report a crime?"
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 02:56 AM
Jan 2013

2921.22 Failure to report a crime or knowledge of a death or burn injury.
(A) (1) Except as provided in division (A)(2) of this section, no person, knowing that a felony has been or is being committed, shall knowingly fail to report such information to law enforcement authorities.

(2) No person, knowing that a violation of division (B) of section 2913.04 of the Revised Code has been, or is being committed or that the person has received information derived from such a violation, shall knowingly fail to report the violation to law enforcement authorities.

http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2921.22

Scairp

(2,749 posts)
60. Wow
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 04:42 AM
Jan 2013

I didn't know it was a crime there. It sounds like a number of people should be under arrest. This is just absurd. That sheriff is a douche bag and the FBI needs to assert jurisdiction asap. These yokels aren't going to do their jobs, that much is plain. And I'm not sure DeWine is going to make sure everyone who should be arrested gets arrested. At the very least he needs to make sure the two that have been arrested are bound over to adult court. They don't seem to have a problem doing it all the time with minors so what is so special about these two? Oh yeah, I forgot, they are local football heroes.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
61. The community sounds like a very dangerous one.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 04:53 AM
Jan 2013

I would like to think that the Department of Justice would take more than a perfunctory interest in this. But we have several years of experience with Eric Holder. He seems to have a tendency to not be interested in certain activities unless it involves the sale of State-approved medical marijuana.

appleannie1

(5,068 posts)
8. Coaches provided alcohol to kids and others knew what was going on and failed to call police or stop
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 06:03 PM
Jan 2013

it. All of those things are against the law and chargeable.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
10. I thought only the Prosecutors can make statements like this on whether charges will be made?
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 06:06 PM
Jan 2013

Isnt the case still open from the State Attorney Generals office with the special prosecutor that was assigned? Have they declared no additional charges?

Who the hell is in charge in the Banana Republic of Ohio and its sewage processing area called Steubenville? See Ole former Senator Mike Dewine, Now State Attorney General is doing a heck of a job running its legal affairs....

siligut

(12,272 posts)
12. Spreading the blame and responsibility
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 06:15 PM
Jan 2013
Abdalla declined to take the investigation over from Steubenville police, sparking more public outrage. Anonymous and community leaders say police are avoiding charging more of those involved to protect the school's beloved football program.


So the sheriff is leaving the investigation to the police, but he is speaking for them? Is this because he is an elected official and the guilty have power in this crooked city of 19,000 and referred to in the article as close-knit. Or is he avoiding responsibility for the shoddy investigation that was done and the supposedly better shoddy one that he says is going to be done?

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
13. I suggest: anyone who lives in Ohio find out who your State's Attorney General is and petition them
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 06:20 PM
Jan 2013

To have indie counsel come in and start an investigation, and get some indictments going.

Coaches should not be serving HS'ers booze or beer. Kids in involved in the HS football program should not be standing around watching while a young woman is raped.

The fact that this Sheriff thinks HE IS THE LAW, and he sides with a football program rather than with sorting out the allegations of rape, all that is outrageous.

Scairp

(2,749 posts)
57. I believe it's currently Mike DeWine
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:55 AM
Jan 2013

Unless I'm not up to speed on where he is "serving" the public at the moment. Hard to say how he will handle this investigation. I think we all have decided the FBI needs to get involved, considering how incestuous the politics are in this town.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
67. Thanks for the info. The FBI won't get involved will they, unless the matter
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 04:35 PM
Jan 2013

Involves people traveling to other states? i could be wrong, but that's what I always heard about the FBI. Once they ARE involved, they tend to get things handled properly.

PuppyBismark

(595 posts)
16. I live in Ohio and it is pretty bad given the GOP hold on government
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 06:28 PM
Jan 2013

Most of the counties outside of the big cities are not much better than the red states. So these people have reason to discuss Ohio in these terms.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
22. cause they are blue, cause they are football, we cheer rape and call victim a sl*t? really, who the
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 06:34 PM
Jan 2013

fuck really cares about the state. this is not about you. or ohio. or stuber whatever....

it is about a girl drugged, dragged to 3 parties and raped by too many

priorities... progressive dem that you claim to be.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
32. I am a registered Democrat. surely being merely a dem, and not progressive, you support womans right
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 07:03 PM
Jan 2013

not to be raped. or a girls, in this instance.

 

discharge

(41 posts)
25. Steubenville
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 06:40 PM
Jan 2013

Is in Jefferson County. Sometimes a city in a particular county will go vote Democratic even when the rest of the county doesn't.

Response to discharge (Reply #25)

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
35. It used to be a Democratic stronghold in OH...
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 07:26 PM
Jan 2013

but now most of the Mills are dead and gone; the entire area is incredibly depressed, economically.

Ohio county exemplifies closely divided electorate
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/in-ohio-county-electorate-is-hardened-and-fractured/2012/09/22/3a848108-03da-11e2-91e7-2962c74e7738_story.html

If you don't want to read that long article, which presents a pretty good profile of the area, just check out the photo gallery and read those captions...folks react politically to the situation they've found themselves in.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
21. more concerned about state reputation than girl drugged, dragged to 3 parties to be raped by others?
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 06:32 PM
Jan 2013

really?

that is your priority?

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
34. you are the one that brought it up. what you have not mentioned or seem to care about, is a girl
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 07:06 PM
Jan 2013

gang raped.

that seems to be nowhere in your posts.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
30. Show us the Ohio bashing...
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 07:00 PM
Jan 2013

All I see is the bashing of the local LEO's, the coach that allowed minors to consume alcohol, the cover up of a football team committing several crimes besides the heinous crime of rape, the bashing of the Rape Crew which is what they called themselves, and bashing the people that just stood by and watched.

I hope you don't get your pizza before I can reply.

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
40. Add Ohio State University to the list
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 08:14 PM
Jan 2013

They have yet to address having a possible rapist and at the very least someone who did not report a crime (which is a crime) on their campus.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
46. Thank you very much...
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 09:20 PM
Jan 2013

I know there are a lot of bad players in this. But even if we name everyone of them, it is still not Ohio bashing.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
36. No, there's no Utopian state where women are truly safe.
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 07:37 PM
Jan 2013

This horrific crime occurred in Ohio, that's all.

When local authorities and officials make it their business to bury such violence, in the hopes that nobody would notice, they deserve to be bashed...nothing "elitist" about it.

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
49. I live in Ohio
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 10:53 PM
Jan 2013

In northern Ohio. I played HS football at a div 1 school. I work in the schools. One thing we all know is that the football coach is the top dog in the school. Thats how it is , here in Ohio. Now I also went to school on Long Island and I played there too. They had more sports at the school on LI, and football was very prominent there , maybe not as much. When I moved to Ohio , I was surprised by the culture. Then you combine that with this old school generational corruption so inherent in the old steel towns where working people meted out their existence as lives lived.
There is a song, by Crack the Sky, 'sing songs of soviet sons, hear the laughter of the chosen ones, keep your family close to you and you can live like kings.'
Youngstown was ruined 40 years ago. Chicago isnt boom town anymore. NY is pretty cool.But Stubenville is still a cesspool.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
15. The best thing the town can do and especially the students of the schools in the area is to
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 06:24 PM
Jan 2013

boycot all sports activities. Don't go to any football, basketball, softball or soceer games. Hit the schools in their pockets. They will get the point. The students should get their parents involved also. Pressure the Mayor of the town to pressure the sheriff. Better yet get the DOJ involved.

Why Syzygy

(18,928 posts)
19. State Attorney General
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 06:31 PM
Jan 2013

I read somewhere that the state's attorney general was taking over the case. There is so much rot in that town that even the BCI official sent from the state is involved in the corruption.

I don't think this criminal little sheriff will have the final say on charges. All of the "rape crew" needs to face incarceration.

There is evidence of premeditated kidnap and assault.

http://localleaks.blogs.ru/2013/01/01/steubenvillefiles/

snipped:

Cody Saltsman: Saltsman was originally charged in the gang rape. After a private back-room meeting at Naples Pasta House restaurant in Steubenville between Saltsman’s father, the Sheriff – and a certain Mr. Teramana (a wealthy Steubenville resident) – Cody Saltsman’s charges were mysteriously dismissed. Saltsman is a former boyfriend of the victim of this attack, and it appears there is quite a bit of bad blood between them – adding a layer of vengence and viciousness that may explain the raw brutality of the attack upon this girl. Saltsman is perhaps one of the most repugnant individuals the LocalLeaks staff has ever encountered. His posts on Twitter and other social media show him to not only be completely callous regarding the horrendous abuse that he and his friends meted out upon their defenseless victim, but show clearly that this young man is an extremely dangerous sociopath who truly needs to be incarcerated.

cody-sees-it-sloppy

Cody Saltsman sent many messages to people stating that “nobody breaks up with Cody Saltsman, Ill ruin that bitch”. This was a month before the rape. A few weeks later, Saltsman’s best friend – Trent Mays started texting the victim asking her for a date and pretending to like her and telling her over and over that everyone likes her and not to worry about Cody. He finally convinced her to let him meet her at her friends house and she remembers nothing past that point. A close personal friend of the victim received pics from her at 9:30 pm, and she was smiling and happy and with her group of girlfriends. An hour later she was unconscious and being viciously gang raped.

While the charges regarding the attack were dropped against Saltsman, he has provided ample evidence that he was present during this vicious gang rape – incriminating himself with multiple photos that he took of the victim during the various parties she was transported to. Examine these two photo’s, one posted by Saltsman to his Instagram account and the other posted to Twitter by another member of the “Rape Crew” closely. These images are of another unknown victim of the “Rape Crew” published by Saltsman in 2011.
(...)

And the filth goes on. The sheriff is as dirty as anyone else in that cesspool.

doc03

(35,363 posts)
45. What evidence is there of this private back room meeting at the Naples
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 09:07 PM
Jan 2013

Pasta House between the Sheriff, Saltsman's father and Mr. Taramana?

Lars39

(26,115 posts)
50. You have already shown your bias by admitting that you are acquainted
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:01 PM
Jan 2013

with family members of those involved in the situation.

Why Syzygy

(18,928 posts)
52. Given the context
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:40 PM
Jan 2013

of that report, I would assume it was at least one of the witnesses who came forward during the time Anon was investigating.

doc03

(35,363 posts)
65. I also read here onDU a couple days ago that the meeting was at the Spot Bar, they must have gone
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 02:47 PM
Jan 2013

around town and had a series of meetings that day.

rightsideout

(978 posts)
31. Incredible
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 07:02 PM
Jan 2013

The rapists are juvies. They'll just get a slap on the wrist.

Meanwhile, NONE of the adults in charge of the team or the town will be held accountable.

This is the biggest "look the other way" case, in light of all the facts coming out, that I've heard of.

This whole thing was planned to limit as much culpable responsibility as possible to save their cash cow.

Steubenville is corrupt to its core.



defacto7

(13,485 posts)
44. You are probably right.
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 09:06 PM
Jan 2013

But in this day and age of Internet and world wide connections, there is no doubt in my mind that the future lives of these rapists and the adults over them will be virtually ruined if not completely ruined. It will NEVER go away. It is entrenched in Internet "folklore" if not regarded as justice, forever.

Good.

Why Syzygy

(18,928 posts)
56. I agree!
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:07 AM
Jan 2013

And that makes me feel a little bit better. I think the entire town should be disbanded and unincorporated. Those "adults" have clearly shown they can't be trusted to provide safety or lawful transactions. Or keep them together so that they are easier to keep an eye on. And they will be watched forevermore.

It would be nice if this disgusting tale triggers wider protection for women. It seems to be the season.

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
37. The county sheriff is no longer on the case or part of the investigation
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 08:11 PM
Jan 2013

The state has taken over the case.

Charges can be changed, additional charges made and additional suspects added to case.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
38. Mike DeWine would love to have a big old
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 08:12 PM
Jan 2013

headline- grabbing bunch of convictions. He could get re-elected that way.

Marthe48

(17,015 posts)
53. Little Hocking Ohio 2010
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:52 PM
Jan 2013

There was a graduation party. The parents served alcohol, even though a lot of the kids who came to the party were underage. There was a fight, and a young man from Athens, Ohio, was stabbed in the thigh. He bled to death. In the ensuing trial and lawsuits, the parents who served the alcohol pleaded guilty to "1 count each of furnishing alcohol to underage persons" and had to serve 6 months each. They served their sentences at different times, because they had minor children at home. There was a wrongful death lawsuit as well, and the kid who stabbed the victim, his grandparents and the parents of the graduate were found liable in the amount of 1.4 million dollars.

So yes, in Ohio, where I live, it is against the law to serve alcohol to underage people and in Washington County, if you are caught, you are going to be in trouble. I hope that the Republican Attorney General, Mike DeWine, gets involved in this crime Jefferson County. The law is the law.

http://www.mariettatimes.com/page/content.detail/id/541917/-1-4M-award.html

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
62. Here is Steubenville's newspaper rerport
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 05:04 AM
Jan 2013
http://www.heraldstaronline.com/

Abdalla said he has been asked, "Why I didn't take control of the investigation. But the parents of the young girl went to the Steubenville Police Department to report the rape. There were kids at two different houses and no one outside of law enforcement knows where the alleged rape took place."

"The police department interviewed 59 people. No new evidence has been uncovered since the early days of the investigation. Some of the evidence found by the police department will be used at the trial. Other names have been posted. And those people are innocent. Testimony was presented at a juvenile court hearing by three individuals who were there at the time of the incident. And they testified only two people had sexual contact with the victim," Abdalla said.

"Names have been posted on the Internet of innocent people. They committed no criminal acts. One individual wasn't even in Jefferson County, much less Steubenville, when the alleged rape occurred," added Abdalla.


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