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NeoConsSuck

(2,544 posts)
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 07:36 PM Jan 2013

Fructose Tied to Obesity as Study Shows It Doesn’t Cut Appetite

Source: Bloomberg.com

Fructose, a sweetener found on many food labels, may contribute to weight gain and obesity because it has minimal effect on brain regions that control appetite, a study by Yale University researchers found.

The research, published yesterday in the Journal of the American Medical Association, is the first to compare the human brain’s response to both fructose and glucose, two types of simple sugars used separately and together to sweeten food.

Researchers have long suspected that increased consumption of food flavored with fructose, a substance sweeter to the taste than glucose, may contribute to the U.S. obesity epidemic. The latest study used brain imaging to measure activity after the sweeteners were consumed. It found that only glucose had the ability to reduce blood flow in areas of the brain that regulate appetite, stopping people from wanting to eat more.

The data “surely suggest that it’s probably not in your best interest to have high fructose-containing drinks because they’re not going to cause you to be full, and you’ll tend to consume more calories,” said Robert Sherwin, a professor of medicine at Yale University School of Medicine in New Haven, Connecticut, in a telephone interview.


Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-01/fructose-tied-to-obesity-as-study-shows-it-doesn-t-cut-appetite.html

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Fructose Tied to Obesity as Study Shows It Doesn’t Cut Appetite (Original Post) NeoConsSuck Jan 2013 OP
Generally made from Genetically Mutant Crap corn Berlum Jan 2013 #1
You mean the glucose??? Because that is what corn sugar is. Glucose. Thor_MN Jan 2013 #12
HFCS cosmicone Jan 2013 #14
I'm well aware that HFCS is aproximately 50% glucose and 50% fructose, just like Thor_MN Jan 2013 #21
Actually, HFCS-55 is 55% Frutose and 42% Glucose cosmicone Jan 2013 #22
And there is also HFCS 42 Thor_MN Jan 2013 #23
the mri sudy is making the news d_r Jan 2013 #2
We did. Igel Jan 2013 #16
Fructose is also tied to a fatty liver. RC Jan 2013 #3
In other words, it turns off the brain's "I am full" signal. ginnyinWI Jan 2013 #4
yep! NoMoreWarNow Jan 2013 #5
No. Fructose doesn't turn it off. jeff47 Jan 2013 #7
Facepalm jeff47 Jan 2013 #6
Didn't read the article, but I wonder if mono- vs disaccharides matters. BadgerKid Jan 2013 #8
Sucrose breaks into monosaccharides in the stomach jeff47 Jan 2013 #9
Sugar = poison. Undismayed Jan 2013 #10
Tell that to your brain. jeff47 Jan 2013 #11
Let me qualify my statement by saying excess sugar = poison. Undismayed Jan 2013 #13
You'll get just as fat eating too much non-sugar. jeff47 Jan 2013 #15
what if you eat the fruit instead of drinking the fruit juice? CTyankee Jan 2013 #18
It's better, but that's because you're eating a lot of other stuff jeff47 Jan 2013 #19
You still get the juice only not as much as you get in an 8 oz glass. CTyankee Jan 2013 #20
I thought this was already known for a while? Odin2005 Jan 2013 #17

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
1. Generally made from Genetically Mutant Crap corn
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 07:41 PM
Jan 2013

that has been bathed in Roundup-poisoned soil, nurtured with petrochems, and then pumped into your bloodstream as you merrily, obliviously glug & guzzle... Cue the Corporate Bunko Artistes.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
12. You mean the glucose??? Because that is what corn sugar is. Glucose.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 11:32 PM
Jan 2013

The study says that high fructose is questionable, so there goes drinking fruit juices... The amount of fear and woo on the topic of sweeteners is incredible. The bib problem is not what sweeteners, it's how much is consumed.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
14. HFCS
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 11:38 PM
Jan 2013

i.e. "High Fructose Corn Syrup" is the cheap sweetening food additive that is made from corn and is liberally used by food manufacturers. Worldwide epidemic of obesity has occurred since the advent of HFCS by Japanese researchers.

It is way cheaper and sweeter than real sugar (sucrose) and profits drive its use.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
21. I'm well aware that HFCS is aproximately 50% glucose and 50% fructose, just like
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:42 PM
Jan 2013

succrose. There is essentially no difference between the two. The problem is how much sugar (from any source) is added to foods. They do the same with salt. If all the food companies would just back off all the added sugar and salt, we would be healthier and not notice the difference.

Fear mongering about HFCS serves no purpose other than to label oneself as a woo-woo conspiracy theorist.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
22. Actually, HFCS-55 is 55% Frutose and 42% Glucose
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 07:04 AM
Jan 2013

and that is the most commonly used form.

HFCS-90 is 90% Fructose and 10% Glucose.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
23. And there is also HFCS 42
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 10:21 AM
Jan 2013

About the only thing HFCS 90 is used to make HFCS 55 from HFCS 42, but it all sure sounds scary, doesn't it?

Once again, the source of sugar means jack. It's the amount of sugar consumed that is the problem.

We are so overdosed on sugar that we have tolerance, it takes a lot of sugar for the average American to say something is sweet. People who aren't used to American processed foods think they are overly sweet. Food producers could wean us off the sugar and salt if they wanted and no one would even notice, until they needed to buy smaller clothes.

If you want to be a "follow the money" conspiracy theorist, you don't have to look any further than the Corn Lobby. The reason corn syrup it is cheap is the subsidies given to the big corn producers.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
16. We did.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 11:42 PM
Jan 2013

Years ago. Not "a lot of years," but years.

It's one argument against apple juice for infants, as well. Rots their teeth, makes the tykes fat.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
3. Fructose is also tied to a fatty liver.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 08:15 PM
Jan 2013

The liver metabolizes fructose the same as alcohol and does in the same damage.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
4. In other words, it turns off the brain's "I am full" signal.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 09:15 PM
Jan 2013

And this doesn't only pertain to high fructose corn syrup. Ordinary table sugar is half fructose, half glucose.

Any time you eat sweets, be aware that your appetite won't turn off normally, and you will have to make a decision to stop eating anyway.

 

NoMoreWarNow

(1,259 posts)
5. yep!
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 09:18 PM
Jan 2013

but this finding is hardly new.

Excessive fructose leads to a whole host of metabolic problems-- diabetes, heart disease, liver problems

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
7. No. Fructose doesn't turn it off.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 09:49 PM
Jan 2013

Our "hungry" sensor is based on glucose. Fructose doesn't trigger it, but fructose also doesn't suppress it.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
6. Facepalm
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 09:45 PM
Jan 2013
The data “surely suggest that it’s probably not in your best interest to have high fructose-containing drinks because they’re not going to cause you to be full, and you’ll tend to consume more calories,”

HFCS in sodas is about 50% fructose, 50% glucose. Sucrose (aka sugar) is 50% fructose, 50% glucose.

Yeah, switching from HFCS to sugar is gonna make a huge difference.

Better yet, let's tell people to avoid HFCS and instead drink 100% organic, all-natural fruit juice. Which is almost all fructose and very little glucose.

I'm really tired of people searching for a magic food that will fix the "obesity epidemic" either by eating it or by avoiding it. It's really not that complicated - we eat too many calories and get too little exercise. But fixing those takes more work than magic food, so we keep getting fatter while we desperately search for magic food.

BadgerKid

(4,553 posts)
8. Didn't read the article, but I wonder if mono- vs disaccharides matters.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 11:02 PM
Jan 2013

I think I recall that HFCS consists purely of monosaccharides. I'm thinking the control they would need to run is a drink sweetened with difructose, thereby allowing the liver to break that down.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
9. Sucrose breaks into monosaccharides in the stomach
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 11:26 PM
Jan 2013

It breaks into fructose and glucose very, very, very quickly and then we absorb the fructose and glucose in the small intestine. So it would be extremely surprising for there to be a difference.

And again, HFCS is roughly 1/2 fructose and 1/2 glucose. Difructose isn't an analog for HFCS. Though it would be pretty easy to generate a 50% fructose 50% glucose solution from something other than corn syrup to conduct your experiment.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
11. Tell that to your brain.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 11:32 PM
Jan 2013

Your brain cells can only eat glucose. The rest of your body's cells can eat a wider variety of food. But it's because of the brain food requirement that our "hungry sensor" is based on our glucose level.

So I really don't think one can call sugar "poison", since it's a key chemical for keeping you alive.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
15. You'll get just as fat eating too much non-sugar.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 11:39 PM
Jan 2013

It's taking in too many calories from all sources, not just sugar. Eat tons of beef and you'll still get fat despite the beef having very little sugar.

There are no magic "don't eat this and you'll be thin" foods. It's all calories in versus calories burned. Though you'll be far healthier adding to that second part instead of only restricting the first.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
18. what if you eat the fruit instead of drinking the fruit juice?
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 01:18 PM
Jan 2013

I hear that it is better to eat an orange than to drink orange juice. I'm just wondering if it has the same effect on the appetite...

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
19. It's better, but that's because you're eating a lot of other stuff
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:02 PM
Jan 2013

Apple juice is apple-flavored sugar water. All-natural, but it's lots of empty calories that won't satiate your hunger.

An apple throws in a bunch of fiber with the apple-flavored sugar water, filling you up much more and thus reducing the total calories you'll eat.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
20. You still get the juice only not as much as you get in an 8 oz glass.
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 05:15 PM
Jan 2013

I happen to love OJ in the morning but I cut down to just 4 oz. (enough to swallow two pills) when I read about how much sugar I was actually pounding down with my big glasses of OJ every day...

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