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ificandream

(11,691 posts)
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 12:02 PM Yesterday

Minn. Officials Say They're Being Blocked From Investigating Fatal ICE Shooting

Source: New York Times (gift article/no paywall)

By Nicholas Bogel-BurroughsMitch Smith and Jacey Fortin
(Nicholas Bogel-Burroughs reported from Minneapolis, Mitch Smith from Chicago and Jacey Fortin from New York.)

Jan. 8, 2026
Updated 11:51 a.m. ET

A top state law enforcement official said Thursday that federal agencies were denying Minnesota investigators access to evidence from a fatal shooting by an immigration enforcement officer the day before, preventing them from participating in the inquiry into an incident that officials have described in starkly different terms.

Drew Evans, the superintendent of the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, said on Thursday that his agency had withdrawn from the investigation of the death of Renee Nicole Good, 37, as a result.

“Without complete access to the evidence, witnesses and information collected, we cannot meet the investigative standards that Minnesota law and the public demands,” Mr. Evans said in a statement. Representatives of the F.B.I. and the federal prosecutor’s office in Minnesota did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

The development was the latest move in an escalating clash between state and federal officials, which has been building for weeks over immigration enforcement operations and fraud investigations in Minnesota, and boiled over after the killing of Ms. Good in her vehicle.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/08/us/minnesota-ice-shooting-news.html?unlocked_article_code=1.C1A.dOWT.S4C6v8H4S5hp&smid=url-share

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Minn. Officials Say They're Being Blocked From Investigating Fatal ICE Shooting (Original Post) ificandream Yesterday OP
Could this require a lawsuit in federal court to get the information released? SSJVegeta Yesterday #1
Pretty sure everything would accidentally be lost ashredux Yesterday #9
Yep, including all if the video that ICE took progressoid Yesterday #33
No offense, but posts like this are silly Wiz Imp Yesterday #36
Yeah, progressoid Yesterday #48
For the George Floyd killing, it wasn't the officer body cams that had the pertinent video evidence, it was the videos iluvtennis Yesterday #45
Same with this. I find this whole "being blocked" thing an excuse SSJVegeta 7 hrs ago #52
Vid from shooter Iwasthere 6 hrs ago #56
It may. If that happened, the State of Minnesota would win. Wiz Imp Yesterday #35
The fix is in Blues Heron Yesterday #2
I came here to post this exact same thing JoseBalow Yesterday #30
Yep, Mr. PooPooHead has blabbed to block our thoughts from Epstein. GreenWave Yesterday #47
Hey Minnesotans, how is this playing out in this election year? Trump is clearly after Minnesota Raven123 Yesterday #3
WTF! sheshe2 Yesterday #4
so start wholesale arrests of ICE agents moonshinegnomie Yesterday #5
There isn't anyone with the power to do that FBaggins 6 hrs ago #55
That is bullshit, a complete cop out. Bluetus Yesterday #6
An arrest warrant in what name? Has the killer's name been released? What about his accomplices? nt in2herbs Yesterday #10
THere are clear photos. He could be identified very easily. Bluetus Yesterday #13
He is probably out of Minnesota by now... returnee Yesterday #37
With a warrant to stand trial for manslaughter Bluetus Yesterday #46
Agreed and disappointed in Walz. returnee 14 hrs ago #49
THIS orangecrush Yesterday #32
Trump's fragile little ego underpants Yesterday #7
Can MN file a writ of habeas corpus to gain access to the killer? Which court: state of federal? nt in2herbs Yesterday #8
Federal in this case sboatcar Yesterday #16
"habeas corpus" is a way to get someone released from custody if they haven't been charged muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #23
I thought i heard that the ACLU was getting involved? If so maybe the Minnesota investigators bluestarone Yesterday #11
I fully expect that the Trump regime will protect the shooter and not allow Gaugamela Yesterday #12
Start indictments up the chain of command. C_U_L8R Yesterday #14
Arrest the guy in charge that day, Bovino. sop 7 hrs ago #53
so, the State of MN will not be able to file any charges. It is in Federal (Trumps) hands now. riversedge Yesterday #15
FALSE Wiz Imp Yesterday #38
right now on msNOW:: Gov Walz saying Trump Admin has Denied MN State a role in shooting Investigation riversedge Yesterday #17
The state better hurry. The feds want to hurry and try, convict and pardon him LiberalArkie Yesterday #18
No way does the Federal Government charge the guy. Wiz Imp Yesterday #39
I don't think they will either.. And I don't think that the state can charge a federal officer in pursuit of his duty. LiberalArkie Yesterday #42
He can and I believe will be charged by the state. Wiz Imp Yesterday #43
"A state court cannot try or convict a person who has been pardoned by the federal government." Wiz Imp Yesterday #41
Don't do that! Bayard Yesterday #19
Minnesota Attorney General, Keith Ellison just torched the FBI and ICE for not cooperating in the investigation LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #20
Obstruction of Justice? Kid Berwyn Yesterday #21
No surprise there... 2naSalit Yesterday #22
Then, you go surround those assholes and do not let them leave their position without cooperation. OldBaldy1701E Yesterday #24
Time to kill off qualified immunity for law enforcement Warpy Yesterday #25
They don't want State Charges popsdenver Yesterday #26
The only recourse at this point appears to be a civil wrongful death suit by her family. SunSeeker Yesterday #27
Stop playing, Miguelito Loveless Yesterday #28
We are in a dictatorship orangecrush Yesterday #29
A lot of the Jan. 6 rioters were identified by photos. Katinfl Yesterday #31
Thought this issue was settled long ago. North Coast Lawyer Yesterday #34
Can someone say "coverup"? sakabatou Yesterday #40
I knew they'd do this. SergeStorms Yesterday #44
I previously never thought his wishes included a civil war, but it's getting harder to reject that now. ificandream 8 hrs ago #50
Now that he has total immunity from the law.... SergeStorms 7 hrs ago #54
This is just an excuse SSJVegeta 8 hrs ago #51
Meanwhile FOX "News" claims MN police "drops out" of investigation. Kid Berwyn 6 hrs ago #57
"Blue State" vs Federal Overreach: Minnesota officials blocked from investigating ICE shooting. AcanthaV 6 hrs ago #58

Wiz Imp

(9,006 posts)
36. No offense, but posts like this are silly
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 02:12 PM
Yesterday

Evidence will NOT be lost, and the people who took the videos will still have them. They are all over the internet so they would be easy to retrieve.

progressoid

(52,589 posts)
48. Yeah,
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:28 PM
Yesterday

I don't mean the vids by the Minnesotans. They are being analyzed and scrutinized by the best of the internet.

I meant the vids on the phones and dashcams of the ICE agents (including the shooter). Those videos will likely never see the light of day.

Unless...

They need a patsy and throw this guy under the bus.

or... someone does a drunken Hegseth Signal chat to the NYT.

iluvtennis

(21,470 posts)
45. For the George Floyd killing, it wasn't the officer body cams that had the pertinent video evidence, it was the videos
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 03:05 PM
Yesterday

that people in/around the store recorded on their cell phones and CCTV from surrounding businesses.

Am sure lots of folks in the neighborhood recorded the event on their phones and then there will be ring doorbell video/et al.

Raven123

(7,556 posts)
3. Hey Minnesotans, how is this playing out in this election year? Trump is clearly after Minnesota
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 12:11 PM
Yesterday

If my information is correct, there are 8 congressional districts, split evenly between Dems and Republicans. A Senate seat is opening with Smith not running. Just wondering how this is being perceived.

moonshinegnomie

(3,872 posts)
5. so start wholesale arrests of ICE agents
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 12:16 PM
Yesterday

anytime they are on streets arrest them and lock their worthless asses up

FBaggins

(28,638 posts)
55. There isn't anyone with the power to do that
Fri Jan 9, 2026, 02:27 PM
6 hrs ago

We're in a federalist system.

Anyone who has ever watched a crime drama has seen dozens of examples. When the feds show up and tell the local investigators that they're taking over... all they can usually do is whine about it.

Bluetus

(2,305 posts)
6. That is bullshit, a complete cop out.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 12:22 PM
Yesterday

Murder and manslaughter are state crimes. Nobody at the Federal level can prevent a state investigation. They may not cooperate, but it should not be that hard to figure out who the killer was and bring an indictment.

It may be hard to arrest him if Noem is hiding him, but there should be an arrest warrant outstanding nonetheless. Even that much would have a deterrent effect for others.

in2herbs

(4,239 posts)
10. An arrest warrant in what name? Has the killer's name been released? What about his accomplices? nt
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 12:24 PM
Yesterday

Bluetus

(2,305 posts)
13. THere are clear photos. He could be identified very easily.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 12:34 PM
Yesterday

There are probably hundreds of people who would immediately recognize him based on his body style, eyes and haircut. If MN officials were really trying to do this, they could get the answer.

And even without a definite ID, I think it is still possible to get a John Doe indictment.

Seriously, Democrats immediately try to find all the reasons why we CANNOT do something. Meanwhile, Trump runs roughshod doing whatever he wants without consequences. This is why it is so hard for Dems to win elections even when Republicans are outright criminals and friends. We don't fight for ANYTHING, not even a simple manslaughter indictment in a case with 10 videos showing the crime from start to finish.

We are our own worst enemies.

returnee

(820 posts)
37. He is probably out of Minnesota by now...
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 02:12 PM
Yesterday

…and well protected. Major court dramas are coming.

Bluetus

(2,305 posts)
46. With a warrant to stand trial for manslaughter
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 03:05 PM
Yesterday

the guy would never be safe traveling in a state that is not controlled by the fascists. He would be subject to arrest and extradition. And this means he would be no use to ICE and would lose that job. He might be able to avoid arrest for a few years, but if we are able to restore the FBI to its lawful purpose in 2029, he wouldn't last long on the loose. In Minnesota, there is no statute of limitations for manslaughter or any other crime that results in the death of a victim.

The point is, we MUST impose consequences of some sort, even if it doesn't get the guy into a prison cell soon. Just having an open warrant would be enough to cause many of the ICE goons to reconsider their career choice.

Seriously, why are Democrats so quick to come up with 10 reasons why we mustn't do anything? That a real sickness.

underpants

(194,947 posts)
7. Trump's fragile little ego
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 12:23 PM
Yesterday

Look, just let him face charges. No one really thinks this guy at 20 steps removed from Trump reflects ON Trump…..except for Trump himself.

This is Kilmar Abrego Garcia all over again except that woman died in this case. They admitted they made a mistake with Garcia but Trump can’t let it go.

in2herbs

(4,239 posts)
8. Can MN file a writ of habeas corpus to gain access to the killer? Which court: state of federal? nt
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 12:23 PM
Yesterday

sboatcar

(704 posts)
16. Federal in this case
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 12:37 PM
Yesterday

I'm sure they spirited him out of state immediately. He fled the scene before MPD arrived. I'm sure he was on the next DHS flight to a far away state.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,574 posts)
23. "habeas corpus" is a way to get someone released from custody if they haven't been charged
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 01:25 PM
Yesterday

I don't think it could be applied here at all.

bluestarone

(21,193 posts)
11. I thought i heard that the ACLU was getting involved? If so maybe the Minnesota investigators
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 12:31 PM
Yesterday

Could get involved with the ACLU? Can't let this just slip by while the FBI will do a complete COVERUP!!

Gaugamela

(3,248 posts)
12. I fully expect that the Trump regime will protect the shooter and not allow
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 12:34 PM
Yesterday

him to be transferred into state custody. They’ll quarter him in DC and just defy any court orders, while calling the Minnesota authorities a bunch of lawless radical left terrorist supporting Democrats who are out of control and need to be contained.

C_U_L8R

(48,885 posts)
14. Start indictments up the chain of command.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 12:34 PM
Yesterday

Trump may say he’s immune but the rest are common murderers.
They may have ordered it, been responsible for it, tried to hide it…
the entire conspiracy has to be held accountable

riversedge

(79,455 posts)
15. so, the State of MN will not be able to file any charges. It is in Federal (Trumps) hands now.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 12:35 PM
Yesterday

riversedge

(79,455 posts)
17. right now on msNOW:: Gov Walz saying Trump Admin has Denied MN State a role in shooting Investigation
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 12:38 PM
Yesterday

LiberalArkie

(19,319 posts)
18. The state better hurry. The feds want to hurry and try, convict and pardon him
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 12:39 PM
Yesterday

A state court cannot try or convict a person who has been pardoned by the federal government. The presidential pardon is a federal act and does not have the same legal effect as a state conviction. The pardon removes the legal consequences of the conviction but does not erase the conviction itself. Therefore, a state court cannot impose a new conviction or impose additional penalties based on the federal pardon.

https://lawshun.com/article/can-the-president-pardon-someone-convicted-under-state-law#google_vignette

LiberalArkie

(19,319 posts)
42. I don't think they will either.. And I don't think that the state can charge a federal officer in pursuit of his duty.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 02:35 PM
Yesterday

It would take proving that he was not doing his job. And then what is his job other than intimidation of the citizens.

I think if he were charged, he would use the normal LEO claim, that he was afraid he might get hurt, break a nail or something if he did not kill the perp.

The U.S. really needs LEO's who are not so afraid all the time.

Wiz Imp

(9,006 posts)
43. He can and I believe will be charged by the state.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 02:39 PM
Yesterday
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/can-ice-agent-who-shot-minneapolis-woman-be-prosecuted-2026-01-08/
Federal agents are generally immune from state prosecution for actions taken as part of their official duties. Immunity only applies when an officer's actions were authorized under federal law and were necessary and proper.

If Minnesota charged the agent, he could seek to move the case to federal court and argue he is immune from prosecution.

To prevail, the state would have to show the actions were outside his official duties or were objectively unreasonable or clearly unlawful.


The actions were clearly NOT necessary and proper. They violate Federal law enforcement procedures. It's a slam dunk for the state to show that the actions were unreasonable and clearly unlawful.

The state of Minnesota will NOT let this guy get away with it. I believe they will definitely charge him. What happens after that remains to be seen. A judge may rule he has immunity (though I suspect the vast majority of judges including Republican appointees would rule against him). A jury could acquit him, though that is unlikely as well. But, I'm not predicting the ultimate outcome, just that the State of Minnesota will definitely bring charges against him. They have no choice. The guy committed cold blooded murder captured on video.

Wiz Imp

(9,006 posts)
41. "A state court cannot try or convict a person who has been pardoned by the federal government."
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 02:34 PM
Yesterday

Not true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Jeopardy_Clause

The double jeopardy clause does not generally protect a person from being prosecuted by both a state government and the United States federal government for the same act, nor does it protect a person from being prosecuted by multiple states for the same act. Because American law considers each of the state governments to be distinct from the federal government of the United States as a whole, with its own laws, court systems, and sovereignty, these parallel prosecutions are considered to be different "offenses" under the double jeopardy clause, and the decisions of one government on what to prosecute or not prosecute are not considered to be binding upon the other. This is known as the "dual sovereignty" or "separate sovereigns" doctrine.


Moot point in this case as the Feds will never charge the guy.

Bayard

(28,590 posts)
19. Don't do that!
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 12:45 PM
Yesterday

Its exactly what they want to push their lies. They will manufacture evidence, intimidate witnesses. At least stay and observe.

Ms. Good deserves that much.

LetMyPeopleVote

(175,007 posts)
20. Minnesota Attorney General, Keith Ellison just torched the FBI and ICE for not cooperating in the investigation
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 12:55 PM
Yesterday

2naSalit

(100,051 posts)
22. No surprise there...
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 01:06 PM
Yesterday

Take those fuckers to court for obstructing justice sine the state has laws that were broken and they MUST investigate.

Fuck ICE.

OldBaldy1701E

(10,192 posts)
24. Then, you go surround those assholes and do not let them leave their position without cooperation.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 01:54 PM
Yesterday

They cannot leave the state without doing that. They will be pursued and arrested by state law agencies until they are all incarcerated or we get cooperation... which should result in incarceration.

Of course, none of this will happen, but it should.

That is becoming a mantra around here... 'it should happen, but it won't'.

Wonder why.

Warpy

(114,391 posts)
25. Time to kill off qualified immunity for law enforcement
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 01:54 PM
Yesterday

It's working really well here.

Hell YES, Minnesota will investigate this no matter how many tantrums are being thrown in Washington. That's only the first step. Ending the ability of law enforcement to commit crimes and hide them behind the badge should be next.

popsdenver

(1,562 posts)
26. They don't want State Charges
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 01:54 PM
Yesterday

brought against the Murderer, because then Trump and the Fed's can't legally pardon them when imprisoned......Just like Trump and the Republicans can't free the Republican Woman in Colorado who is imprisoned by the state for her felony behavior.....

And their acceleration of actions on EVERYTHING certainly is a distraction from Epstein/Trump isn't it........Invading nations illegally, shooting individuals, withholding money from Blue States, investigation of fraud in only Blue States.....etc etc etc....

SunSeeker

(57,575 posts)
27. The only recourse at this point appears to be a civil wrongful death suit by her family.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 01:58 PM
Yesterday

The feds are burying the criminal case.

Miguelito Loveless

(5,430 posts)
28. Stop playing,
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 02:03 PM
Yesterday

they committed a crime in your jurisdiction and murdered one of your citizens.

Walk into their command center and seize the evidence. Arrest anyone interfering.

Katinfl

(641 posts)
31. A lot of the Jan. 6 rioters were identified by photos.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 02:05 PM
Yesterday

Put his face out there……..people will name him.

North Coast Lawyer

(225 posts)
34. Thought this issue was settled long ago.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 02:09 PM
Yesterday
Power being almost always the rival of power, the general government will at times stand ready to check the usurpations of the state governments, and these will have the same disposition towards the general government․ If [the people’s] rights are invaded by either, they can make use of the other as the instrument of redress.

Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist No. 28

SergeStorms

(19,997 posts)
44. I knew they'd do this.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 02:55 PM
Yesterday

Cover up, deflect blame, and project further fear on Americans.

A civil war is quite possibly closer than we realize.

ificandream

(11,691 posts)
50. I previously never thought his wishes included a civil war, but it's getting harder to reject that now.
Fri Jan 9, 2026, 12:58 PM
8 hrs ago

Invading American cities, continually speaking divisive rhetoric, being so obsessed with an election he lost and at least one president (Biden) who was way the hell better than he has been and just inciting anger with his ideas and actions almost leaves no doubt. Those of us who believe in peace and freedom will resist, but he's doing all that he can to incite us. As Gov. Walz said yesterday, we need to keep the peace. I don't know if that makes us weaker, but it makes us better.

SergeStorms

(19,997 posts)
54. Now that he has total immunity from the law....
Fri Jan 9, 2026, 02:02 PM
7 hrs ago

he's just looking for any reason to enact martial law. That's when the "final solution" will take place.

There's a reason he had a copy of 'Mein Kampf' on his nightstand all those years.

SSJVegeta

(2,327 posts)
51. This is just an excuse
Fri Jan 9, 2026, 01:02 PM
8 hrs ago

They know the name of the guy and probably could easily find out where he lives.

You can get a warrant with that and the video (s) alone…


Kid Berwyn

(22,990 posts)
57. Meanwhile FOX "News" claims MN police "drops out" of investigation.
Fri Jan 9, 2026, 02:47 PM
6 hrs ago

The BIG headline:

Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension drops out of ICE-involved shooting investigation

The small subhead:

Bureau of Criminal Apprehension says it was denied case materials needed for 'thorough and independent' investigation

https://www.foxnews.com/us/minnesota-bureau-criminal-apprehension-drops-out-ice-involved-shooting-investigation

AcanthaV

(4 posts)
58. "Blue State" vs Federal Overreach: Minnesota officials blocked from investigating ICE shooting.
Fri Jan 9, 2026, 02:52 PM
6 hrs ago

This is unbelievable. Minnesota state investigators (BCA) want to look into the case of a woman shot by ICE, but the federal government is slamming the door in their faces. If federal agencies kill someone in a state and then hide the evidence, what happened to transparency? Minnesota officials were forced to withdraw because of 'investigative standards'—they simply aren't being allowed to do their jobs.

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