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BumRushDaShow

(165,845 posts)
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 01:16 PM Thursday

Trump plans to use Venezuela's huge crude reserves 'to cut US oil price to $50 a barrel'

Source: The Guardian

Thu 8 Jan 2026 07.00 EST
First published on Thu 8 Jan 2026 06.07 EST


Donald Trump plans to use Venezuela’s vast crude reserves to establish control of most of the western hemisphere’s oil in an attempt to drive the market price down to about $50 (£37) a barrel, according to reports.

The US president has repeatedly raised the prospect of producing enough crude from Venezuela’s oilfields to drive down the US oil price from more than $56 a barrel today to about $50 in an effort to cut energy costs for consumers, according to the Wall Street Journal, which cited senior Trump administration officials.

Global oil markets have already recorded significant losses in recent years due to an oversupply of crude. Prices slumped by almost 20% in 2025, marking the biggest annual loss since the Covid-19 pandemic and the first time the oil market has recorded three consecutive years of annual losses.

As well as driving market prices lower, officials reportedly claimed Trump’s plans to control Venezuela’s oil reserves, which are the largest in the world, include cutting Russia and China’s access to the South American country in order to establish a western hemisphere oil production stronghold.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/jan/08/trump-plans-use-venezuela-huge-oil-reserves-to-cut-us-consumer-price-to-50-a-barrel



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Trump plans to use Venezuela's huge crude reserves 'to cut US oil price to $50 a barrel' (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Thursday OP
Right after he sends out those $2 K tariff checks...in about two weeks. jls4561 Thursday #1
Good, maybe some of the oil belt will go broke and the fossil fuel supporters will lose their jobs. walkingman Thursday #2
at $50 a barrel most Oil drilling is not feasible moonshinegnomie Thursday #3
Right, they'll just leave it in the ground until the price goes back up ToxMarz Thursday #8
THIS! Getting too near or even below the 'break-even point'. Jack Valentino Thursday #45
The 'Orinoco crude' A Badger Yesterday #59
Trump don't math so good C_U_L8R Thursday #4
Like his claim that popsdenver Thursday #21
Hey Everybody! ruet Thursday #5
I remember. SergeStorms Yesterday #54
Well, it is SAD that some Americans vote because of the price of eggs (TSF knows that now) so he's thinking, hey bluestarone Thursday #6
Maybe he can crash the Russian economy by flooding the oil market. mjvpi Thursday #7
Saudi and Russia sort of did that to themselves back in 2020 BumRushDaShow Thursday #12
I was shocked he allowed that tanker seizure. SHOCKED I tell you. Callie1979 Thursday #34
Wouldn't that piss off our oil executives and Pootie? Buddyzbuddy Thursday #9
Oil Executives "you want us to crush our own industry?" underpants Thursday #10
I'm confused by your implication. Buddyzbuddy Thursday #13
I don't think he was implying anything Miguelito Loveless Thursday #16
That was my obvious observation and the result would be the Felon reversing course. Buddyzbuddy Thursday #18
I was backing up what you posted underpants Thursday #19
Thank you, I misunderstood. Buddyzbuddy Thursday #24
Everyone is having a bad day. SergeStorms Yesterday #55
What he is saying sounds a lot more like socialism than capitalism.... Ol Janx Spirit Thursday #11
Socialism is GOOD if it benefits trump. nt Callie1979 Thursday #36
Gore Vidal called it "free enterprise for the poor and socialism for the rich." Ol Janx Spirit Thursday #37
Only one big problem!!: Venezuela oil does NOT belong to the U.S. riversedge Thursday #14
"Possession is eleven points in the law, and they say they are but twelve" Ol Janx Spirit Thursday #38
If memory serves, most fracked oil Miguelito Loveless Thursday #15
The "breakeven" price BumRushDaShow Thursday #23
Thanks for the chart Miguelito Loveless Thursday #26
Most welcome! BumRushDaShow Thursday #31
No wonder he bankrupted casinos. Ray Bruns Thursday #17
Venezuela's oil, it's nasty... MiHale Thursday #20
Please consider making this a separate post -- and maybe xpost in Environment/Energy ! eppur_se_muova Thursday #22
Done ... MiHale Thursday #25
thanks! eppur_se_muova Thursday #30
Much of the U.S. gulf of MEXICO refineries can process heavy, sour crude lonely bird Thursday #33
Boscan crude is, apparently, basically a rock under all but the most niyad Thursday #46
Step 1: Drive oil prices to $50/BBL. markodochartaigh Thursday #27
"Step 3: Listen to outraged Republicans go ballistic over spiraling US debt." BumRushDaShow Thursday #32
Step 3 only happens when a Dem is president and... Justice matters. Yesterday #56
Next week's New Yorker Coldwater Thursday #28
Here - BumRushDaShow Thursday #41
It's so weird that so much of our oil truthisfreedom Thursday #29
Right? intrepidity Yesterday #58
The economic moron stricks again. American producers will go bust on $50/barrel oil. flashman13 Thursday #35
but what about the relief utherpendragon Thursday #39
$50 oil would destroy the economies of Texas and North Dakota NickB79 Thursday #40
everything he says is a lie Nigrum Cattus Thursday #42
It was not long ago BidenRocks Thursday #43
the price is not trump's goal. its headlines Tetrachloride Thursday #44
Quiet, Piggy orangecrush Thursday #47
Everything he gets his tiny hands into, falls flat. C Moon Thursday #48
American oil companies have said they don't want Venezuela's oil IronLionZion Thursday #49
Dump making more shit up to destroy the economy sakabatou Thursday #50
Stand down everyone. SalamanderSleeps Thursday #51
BFD AverageOldGuy Thursday #52
Why, will hardly notice the military mowing us down..... SergeStorms Thursday #53
Trump talks to make himself feel good. Sometimes, like here, the word salad includes a number salad. hay rick Yesterday #57
"Mexico will build the wall and pay for it...". More lies from Trump who likes to suggest his stealing will benefit artemisia1 Yesterday #60
No, he is gong to use it to enrich himself and pay for that ballroom. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Yesterday #61

walkingman

(10,356 posts)
2. Good, maybe some of the oil belt will go broke and the fossil fuel supporters will lose their jobs.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 01:22 PM
Thursday

moonshinegnomie

(3,880 posts)
3. at $50 a barrel most Oil drilling is not feasible
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 01:22 PM
Thursday

especially in venezuela which produces a heavy thick tar like crude.

ToxMarz

(2,758 posts)
8. Right, they'll just leave it in the ground until the price goes back up
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 01:33 PM
Thursday

which it will because there is no production. They're not going to produce at a loss, nothing is better than a negative something. I bet Wharton cringes everytime he touts is education came from there.

Jack Valentino

(4,375 posts)
45. THIS! Getting too near or even below the 'break-even point'.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 10:20 PM
Thursday

The cost of production will be more than the price....

Would be good for consumers in the short-run, but they could well end up paying more when all the producers cut production...

A Badger

(45 posts)
59. The 'Orinoco crude'
Fri Jan 9, 2026, 07:11 AM
Yesterday

...is labeled as "bituminous". Only slightly less viscous than Canada's Athabascan 'Tar sands' stuff.

Overheard on the Internet:
"...So when you hear that Venezuela has “the world’s largest oil reserves,” the technically accurate part is that the country has extremely large volumes of extra-heavy oil in place, and a big subset of that was once judged economically recoverable at high price assumptions and booked as 'proved'. The more relevant questions for energy strategy are how many of those barrels are genuinely economic under realistic long-term prices, how quickly they can be brought onstream given infrastructure and institutional constraints, what netback they deliver at the refinery gate, and how exposed they are to being left in the ground if demand peaks. On those metrics, Venezuelan barrels sit much further out on the cost and risk curve than the headline “largest reserves” soundbite suggests."

I.e.,- at $50/barrel, the US oil majors wouldn't invest a dime, and would leave the Venezuelan 'stranded''.

popsdenver

(1,567 posts)
21. Like his claim that
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 02:39 PM
Thursday

he will cut drug prices 200,400, 1600% Anything over 100% and that is the amount the Drug Manufacturer will pay the consumer to use their drug...........LOL

The Wharton? School of Business should be ashamed.........The school (and all his professors) obviously allowed Trumps father to BUY his degree.....
Makes you wonder how many Rich kids graduate with degrees that were literally BOUGHT, not only from This school, but other high ranking institutions across America......

Wasn't it WBush that went to Harvard and graduated that way, but they didn't dare let him go to their law school knowing the Law school professors wouldn't just pass him because of who he was???????? Or maybe it was allowing him in to get his MBA???
I will have to check on that and delete this if I am 'Mis-Remembering" LOL
****I checked and it was Yale that gave him an undergraduate degree, but wouldn't admit him to their law school, but Dartmouth admitted them to THEIR law school.....I wonder if he ever was able to pass the BAR ???????????

ruet

(10,183 posts)
5. Hey Everybody!
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 01:28 PM
Thursday

Remember when the US oil industry, pretty much, stopped drilling for oil because the price was so low? How TF are they, supposedly, going along with this?

bluestarone

(21,207 posts)
6. Well, it is SAD that some Americans vote because of the price of eggs (TSF knows that now) so he's thinking, hey
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 01:30 PM
Thursday

between now and NOV. i'll get that gas price down, then these ddumb ASS's will vote for my republicans again. MANY will ofcourse.

mjvpi

(1,878 posts)
7. Maybe he can crash the Russian economy by flooding the oil market.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 01:32 PM
Thursday

Leverage to get Russia to negotiate peace with Ukraine. One can dream.

BumRushDaShow

(165,845 posts)
12. Saudi and Russia sort of did that to themselves back in 2020
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 01:48 PM
Thursday

when they did a "production war" and crashed the price of oil as far down as ~$38.50/bbl (meaning they were willing to pay to store it)!

Saudis Plan Big Oil Output Hike, Beginning All-Out Price War

Crude Oil has gone NEGATIVE!

Callie1979

(1,152 posts)
34. I was shocked he allowed that tanker seizure. SHOCKED I tell you.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 04:46 PM
Thursday

Putin had sent a sub to protect it but the Navy beat it

Buddyzbuddy

(2,137 posts)
13. I'm confused by your implication.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 01:52 PM
Thursday

I merely stated an observation and probable conclusion. I didn't advocate for anything.

Miguelito Loveless

(5,430 posts)
16. I don't think he was implying anything
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 02:01 PM
Thursday

but pointing out rhetorically that $50/b oil would decimate the US oil industry.

Buddyzbuddy

(2,137 posts)
18. That was my obvious observation and the result would be the Felon reversing course.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 02:10 PM
Thursday

Hence, taco man.

SergeStorms

(19,997 posts)
55. Everyone is having a bad day.
Fri Jan 9, 2026, 12:06 AM
Yesterday

But then I think about Ms. Good's family and friends.....then I stop the self-pity. It can always get worse. 😳

Ol Janx Spirit

(735 posts)
11. What he is saying sounds a lot more like socialism than capitalism....
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 01:45 PM
Thursday

Capitalism does not want oil to be that cheap as there is no profit in it. If it did we could already have even cheaper oil. OPEC has used their collective power to make sure the price of oil stays where it is profitable for them by increasing or decreasing supply.

Venezuela is a founding and current member of OPEC, but I guess that will change now?

So, is he saying that the government is going to control both the natural resources and the means of production in order to push oil down to $50 a barrel?


Ol Janx Spirit

(735 posts)
37. Gore Vidal called it "free enterprise for the poor and socialism for the rich."
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:14 PM
Thursday

I guess that is more accurate.

Ol Janx Spirit

(735 posts)
38. "Possession is eleven points in the law, and they say they are but twelve"
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:21 PM
Thursday

That's basically what Stephen Miller said on Tuesday.

And apparently there is some truth to it.

And when you're a superpower, they let you do it. You can do anything.... Grab 'em by the oil....

MiHale

(12,632 posts)
20. Venezuela's oil, it's nasty...
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 02:35 PM
Thursday
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nasty-venezuelan-oil-trump_n_695edbc9e4b05f1e1aab74b1

Oil from Venezuela, which Trump keeps claiming is now under his control, is a heavy sludge-like product filled with hydrogen sulfide and a slew of toxic metals that can destroy a refinery if not first removed, industry experts said. It must be diluted with imported petroleum products before it is even fluid enough to move, and its corrosiveness is the reason that much of the country’s oil drilling equipment is in such a state of disrepair.

“That’s why the infrastructure has rotted away,” said Matt Randolph, an oil industry executive with decades of experience. “It’s extremely corrosive and all of the equipment needs constant maintenance and chemical treatment to keep it from degrading.”
The higher expense involved in processing Venezuelan oil, combined with current low oil prices globally and an uncertain oil demand in the future, means that the U.S. installation of a more cooperative ruler in that country may end up having no effect on what Americans pay for gasoline and heating oil.
An oil industry analyst, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said production could – with relatively little cost – ramp up from the current 1 million barrels a day being extracted in Venezuela by about 200,000 more barrels. Beyond that, though, will require massive new investments that might never pay off if oil prices remain low.

….more at link….

eppur_se_muova

(41,005 posts)
22. Please consider making this a separate post -- and maybe xpost in Environment/Energy !
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 03:00 PM
Thursday

I'd heard it was high-sulfur oil, but not that bad !

niyad

(129,607 posts)
46. Boscan crude is, apparently, basically a rock under all but the most
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 10:30 PM
Thursday

optimum conditions.

markodochartaigh

(5,040 posts)
27. Step 1: Drive oil prices to $50/BBL.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 03:49 PM
Thursday

Step 2: Bail out oil companies with billions of US government dollars.

Step 3: Listen to outraged Republicans go ballistic over spiraling US debt.

(Spoiler alert: Step 3 never happens.)

BumRushDaShow

(165,845 posts)
32. "Step 3: Listen to outraged Republicans go ballistic over spiraling US debt."
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 04:21 PM
Thursday

Step 4: WE GOTTA CUT MORE "ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS" (that are not really "entitlement programs" )!! !!111!!!1!!


Justice matters.

(9,411 posts)
56. Step 3 only happens when a Dem is president and...
Fri Jan 9, 2026, 12:30 AM
Yesterday

Dems in Congress have majorities (except for the anti-democratic filibuster in the Senate).

truthisfreedom

(23,518 posts)
29. It's so weird that so much of our oil
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 04:02 PM
Thursday

is hidden under other countries. Someday we’ll have to solve that mystery. I’m sure it’s as complex as quantum physics.

utherpendragon

(15 posts)
39. but what about the relief
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:30 PM
Thursday

Once the price of oil goes down, then the price of everything else will go down, don't you see? So, we are the big winners. Do I have that right?

NickB79

(20,249 posts)
40. $50 oil would destroy the economies of Texas and North Dakota
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:28 PM
Thursday

They can't make a profit unless oil is at least $55-$65/barrel.

Ironically, both states voted for Trump.

Nigrum Cattus

(1,229 posts)
42. everything he says is a lie
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 07:04 PM
Thursday

$50 a barrel oil won't matter when we have a country
of poor people who can't afford to feed themselves.
stupid, stupid, stupid
epstein, epstein, epstein

BidenRocks

(2,787 posts)
43. It was not long ago
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 08:39 PM
Thursday

when chump canceled the Offshore Wind and Solar projects.

He is forcing the issue against electric vehicles. If they were available here, I would look at a BYD!

Sorry GM. You were here in early 70s.
You are writing off electric to please chump.
No leadership there.

IronLionZion

(50,830 posts)
49. American oil companies have said they don't want Venezuela's oil
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 11:18 PM
Thursday

because it's too high cost so they would lose money. It would take billions in investment to rebuild Venezuela's oil infrastructure. And then if he lowers the price they lose profits. So oil companies are not going to gain from this plan.



Venezuela, Russia, and most oil producing nations and oil companies all profit from higher oil prices. They don't want lower prices.

AverageOldGuy

(3,362 posts)
52. BFD
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 11:41 PM
Thursday

One barrel of crude = 42 gallons

About 40% of a barrel becomes gasoline, which means a barrel of oil will yield 16.8 gallons of gas.

If a barrel cost $50 and yields only 16.8 gallons of gas, that means the gas will cost $2.98 a gallon to produce.

Add to the $2.68 transport, taxes, profit margin, etc., then gas will remain at or near $3.00 per gallon.

But try to explain this to MAGAts who failed 6th grade math.

hay rick

(9,362 posts)
57. Trump talks to make himself feel good. Sometimes, like here, the word salad includes a number salad.
Fri Jan 9, 2026, 01:08 AM
Yesterday

artemisia1

(1,370 posts)
60. "Mexico will build the wall and pay for it...". More lies from Trump who likes to suggest his stealing will benefit
Fri Jan 9, 2026, 07:28 AM
Yesterday

Americans.

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