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Enrique

(27,461 posts)
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:36 PM Jan 2013

Judge orders 'immediate cease' to NYPD's stop-and-frisk policy in Bronx 'Clean Halls' building

Source: NY Post

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/judge_orders_immediate_cease_to_DL1rBXIPsRYAj2DIGXiuXK

A judge is putting the brakes on stop-and-frisk.

A federal judge today ordered the NYPD to "immediately cease" stopping people outside Bronx apartments enrolled in a voluntary anti-crime program unless cops have "reasonable suspicion of trespass."

In a massive, 157-page decision, Judge Shira Scheindlin said she was "not ordering the abolition or even a reduction" of the city's "Clean Halls" program, under which landlords can let cops patrols inside privately-owned apartment buildings to crack down on drug dealing and other crimes.

But she said her ruling "is directed squarely at a category of stops lacking reasonable suspicion."

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Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/judge_orders_immediate_cease_to_DL1rBXIPsRYAj2DIGXiuXK

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Judge orders 'immediate cease' to NYPD's stop-and-frisk policy in Bronx 'Clean Halls' building (Original Post) Enrique Jan 2013 OP
Wow. Good call. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2013 #1
When questioned about the decision and NYPD spokesman replied.......... thelordofhell Jan 2013 #2
Yowsa! Baitball Blogger Jan 2013 #3
3 used Condoms formercia Jan 2013 #4
It's about damn time. kag Jan 2013 #5
good call. limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #6
K&R Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #7
excellent Liberal_in_LA Jan 2013 #8
The statistics show Stop and Frisk is a racist policy Tempest Jan 2013 #9
Kick. dipsydoodle Jan 2013 #10
The article gives a misimpression about the policy... markpkessinger Jan 2013 #11
Remain Calm Macoy51 Jan 2013 #12
LOL! So they tell me! n/t markpkessinger Jan 2013 #13

thelordofhell

(4,569 posts)
2. When questioned about the decision and NYPD spokesman replied..........
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:57 PM
Jan 2013

"What....being black isn't suspicious enough?"

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
9. The statistics show Stop and Frisk is a racist policy
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:51 PM
Jan 2013

83% of the stops were blacks, but they only made up 13% of arrests.

Fewer whites are stopped but they make up the vast majority of arrests made during the stops.

markpkessinger

(8,401 posts)
11. The article gives a misimpression about the policy...
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:35 PM
Jan 2013

... The article gives the idea that it was only implemented in high-crime areas, but actually it was city-wide. Any landlord could enroll his or her buildling in the "Clean Halls" program. Unfortunately, my landlord did this with my building (in the West 50s in Manhattan), nearly resulting in my getting caught up in all of this nonsense.

A few months back, I was coming home late from work. As I approached my building, I noticed a police cruiser in front, but didn't give it much thought. As I started up the stoop, a young, burly officer came out of the building. "You have ID?", he demanded gruffly. I indicated that I did. "ID that shows this address?" Again I said yes and proceded to show my driver's license, at which point he sort of grunted and allowed me to pass by him and continue into the building. But I often run to the corner deli, or run some other quick errand in the neighborhood, without bothering to carry my ID. If this had been one of those occasions, I might well have been subject to arrest for trespassing, even though I wasn't and the charges would ultimately have had to be dropped. But it was a really unnerving experience.

 

Macoy51

(239 posts)
12. Remain Calm
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 08:51 AM
Jan 2013

Why is presenting your papers to the authorities unnerving? Do you have something to hide Citizen? You should consider all people in authority as a Big Brother looking after your welfare. There is nothing to be alarmed about, remain calm and peacefully go about your business.

/sarcasm off


Macoy

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