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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:19 PM Jan 2013

White House drug czar: We’re having a 'serious conversation' about pot

Source: San Francisco Chronicle

We are, according to the White House drug czar as of Tuesday afternoon, “in the midst of a serious national conversation about marijuana.”

Whoa. That’s huge coming from the White House.

Drug czar Gil Kerlikowske said that Tuesday in response to three online petitions asking the White House about marijuana legalization.

... Here’s what Kerlikowske, whose real title is “Director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy,” wrote Tuesday in the form of an auto-response to the tens of thousands of folks who signed legalization petitions:

Thank you for participating in We the People and speaking out on the legalization of marijuana. Coming out of the recent election, it is clear that we’re in the midst of a serious national conversation about marijuana.
At President Obama’s request, the Justice Department is reviewing the legalization initiatives passed in Colorado and Washington, given differences between state and federal law. In the meantime, please see a recent interview with Barbara Walters in which President Obama addressed the legalization of marijuana:


Read more: http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05election/2013/01/08/white-house-drug-czar-we’re-having-a-“serious-conversation”-about-pot/
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White House drug czar: We’re having a 'serious conversation' about pot (Original Post) Newsjock Jan 2013 OP
Then stop bogarting the medicinal clinics! benld74 Jan 2013 #1
agree, guy in CA just got 10 federal years...................... kooljerk666 Jan 2013 #2
The DOJ does not care for MJ justice if you are a rich powerful HSBC CEO. Jumping John Jan 2013 #4
Just make sure the box of cash fits... triplepoint Jan 2013 #9
Thanks for doing it. Jeevus Jan 2013 #13
10 years. I feel better knowing that I will be safe from this dangerous person for 10 years. olddad56 Jan 2013 #14
They closed our only medical place marlakay Jan 2013 #22
The time for a thing is when it happens. WheelWalker Jan 2013 #3
Guess their "conversations" are about how to arrest more medical marijuana forestpath Jan 2013 #5
I am sure they are as serious as a woodchuck /nt Dragonfli Jan 2013 #6
They are seriously discussing how serious pot "addiction" is and how serious Nanjing to Seoul Jan 2013 #7
Gil is a fuck-knuckle. 7wo7rees Jan 2013 #10
The American Government loves its fuck-knucles, fuckwads, fucksticks, fucktards and fuckups Nanjing to Seoul Jan 2013 #23
So, Gil, Is that the Pot Talking...AGAIN? triplepoint Jan 2013 #8
A serious conversation about pot would start with Danascot Jan 2013 #11
So he deferred to Obama's statement at the end. Jeevus Jan 2013 #12
Ridicule him, yes, but this is a mark of progress. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2013 #15
Can you spell rhetoric? The President said he wouldnt defend DOMA. rhett o rick Jan 2013 #16
Yes, actions speaks louder than words, but still... Comrade Grumpy Jan 2013 #17
not sure if this is a good thing or bad thing Garion_55 Jan 2013 #18
whole lotta words.......nt bbgrunt Jan 2013 #19
In the meantime, jkville Jan 2013 #20
EVERYONE who follows this issue knows the DoJ let bankers off for drug laundering RainDog Jan 2013 #21
President Obama John2 Jan 2013 #24
Gil is a serious person who works for serious people jsr Jan 2013 #25
In other words... Javaman Jan 2013 #26
The entire country has Been having a fredamae Jan 2013 #27
With or without cheetos? Myrina Jan 2013 #28
Conversation starts at 4:20 lobodons Jan 2013 #29
 

kooljerk666

(776 posts)
2. agree, guy in CA just got 10 federal years......................
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:38 PM
Jan 2013

for complying with CA law.

If I had not had a good amount of canibdinol & THC in my system when I had my brain injury I would be in a home in a coma, costing taxpayers $10,000 a month.

I have been taking copies of the Fed. MJ patent to every local elected official in PA & when even republican jerks read it, they begin to have an open mind. They have family & friends that they would not like to see suffer & die for no good reason.

Seriously, print these out & take'm to GOP & dems officials, when they read it & understand they begin to shift viewpoints & belief systems.

http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2011/06/worth_repeating_govt_holds_patent_for_cannabinoids.php

http://www.rm3.us/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/US6630507-Hampson-USDHHS-Antioxidants.pdf

In PA a state rep is bringing this legislation forward & I am signed up to testify in Harrisburg if it gets that far.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
14. 10 years. I feel better knowing that I will be safe from this dangerous person for 10 years.
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:45 PM
Jan 2013

maybe they had to let out a truly dangerous person to make room for this political prisoner.

marlakay

(11,474 posts)
22. They closed our only medical place
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 02:10 AM
Jan 2013

Mid state in Washington state. And they are so paranoid and for good reason it's almost impossible to get set up in Seattle from here.

My husband has a card, but it's almost useless.

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
7. They are seriously discussing how serious pot "addiction" is and how serious
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:50 PM
Jan 2013

the punishments will become with serious fines too. They are serious in their belief that serious measures need to be taken.

Seriously. This administration has been MORE draconian in this failed drug war.

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
10. Gil is a fuck-knuckle.
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:11 PM
Jan 2013

Exhibit A: Saluted Nixon as he boarded the helicopter to resign the presidency in disgrace.
Exhibit B: As former Chief of Police of Seattle, arrested 140 protesters at the ANNIVERSARY of the WTO protests, garnering him a vote of no confidence from his own police officers
Exhibit C: Was a Janet Reno bootlicker, and an admirer of Nancy Reagan's "Just Say No" campaign.
Exhibit D: First said that the Obama administration would no longer refer to the term "War On Drugs" but then threatened to sue the state of California if they passed Prop 19.

FUCK THIS MOTHERFUCKER.

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
23. The American Government loves its fuck-knucles, fuckwads, fucksticks, fucktards and fuckups
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 11:32 AM
Jan 2013

Always has, always will.

 

triplepoint

(431 posts)
8. So, Gil, Is that the Pot Talking...AGAIN?
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:10 PM
Jan 2013

or should I just ask, "A sphincter says what?" Which do you prefer to answer while not under oath?

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
15. Ridicule him, yes, but this is a mark of progress.
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:55 PM
Jan 2013

Three years ago, he said legalization wasn't in the president's vocabulary or his.

What a difference an election makes.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
16. Can you spell rhetoric? The President said he wouldnt defend DOMA.
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 12:04 AM
Jan 2013

So what? That doesnt help a soul. DOMA is still in full effect. This is just rhetoric. Show me some results. Tell the DOJ to stop persecuting medical marijuana dispensers.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
17. Yes, actions speaks louder than words, but still...
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 12:08 AM
Jan 2013

...the rhetorical shift suggests that the forces of pot prohibition are ceding ground.

Meanwhile, Aaron Sandusky, a California dispensary operator, was sentenced to 10 years in federal prison yesterday. The struggle continues.

Garion_55

(1,915 posts)
18. not sure if this is a good thing or bad thing
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 12:14 AM
Jan 2013

as many times as people in power have disappointed me im not holding my breath..... well i am but not because of that 8-)

jkville

(1 post)
20. In the meantime,
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 12:55 AM
Jan 2013

translation- we'll keep stalling until something happens that will shift public opinion away from legalization

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
21. EVERYONE who follows this issue knows the DoJ let bankers off for drug laundering
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 01:10 AM
Jan 2013

If they continue to institute this "one law for the rich, another for everyone else" bullshit in regard to cannabis, this is one faction of the political left that can and does make noise - and VOTES.

Democrats better consider well where their votes come from (liberal, in states with liberal cannabis law, the younger generation of voters) and let the DEA down slowly on this one b/c it's time for that change we can believe in.

People from across disciplines, of all colors, are talking about the racial disparity in drug law enforcement, not just the laws themselves.

Sativex is also not going away. It is already prescribed in four or more countries. Again, no "one law for the rich, another for everyone else" b.s.

Enough.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
24. President Obama
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 11:33 AM
Jan 2013

needs to go back and read the History of how pot became illegal. From the research that I have done, I've learned the Nixon Administration did have a lot to do with influencing it. It would help if the journalists would have more knowledge as well, so they can ask these politicians better questions. I understand from the research, Nixon did have a national commission on the subject and didn't like the recommendations from that report. I suggest President Obama starts with that report which Nixon shoved under the table. Its conclusions were infact, marijuana be treated like alcohol and tobacco because the criminalization of it would most likely prove unConstitutional. President Nixon shoved it under the table for political reasons and because of Law Enforcement agencies. Can President Obama prove this is a hard drug which is the problem?

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
26. In other words...
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 11:47 AM
Jan 2013

"we hear you but we won't respond with anything other than boiler plate platitudes".

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
27. The entire country has Been having a
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 12:02 PM
Jan 2013

serious conversation about "pot" for Decades-We've repeatedly and loudly requested cessation of enforcing these laws because the people who pay for their enforcement said "NO".
But, thanks for catching up to the nation you govern--finally.

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