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PufPuf23

(9,758 posts)
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 02:54 AM Yesterday

Democrats' internal review said to find Kamala Harris's stance on Gaza cost her votes in 2024

Last edited Mon Feb 23, 2026, 09:12 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: The Times of Israel

Live Now Updated 45min ago

Democrats’ internal review said to find Kamala Harris’s stance on Gaza cost her votes in 2024

DNC reportedly showed findings to pro-Palestinian group despite saying it would not make probe public

By ToI Staff

Today, 3:35 am

Note: Changed link to that provided by Celerity at 6:10 PM Monday evening PST, would have been corrected earlier buy just got homefrom 2 hour one way trip to doctor appointment.

Read more: https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/report-democrats-internal-review-finds-harris-lost-votes-in-2024-due-to-her-stance-on-gaza/



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Democrats' internal review said to find Kamala Harris's stance on Gaza cost her votes in 2024 (Original Post) PufPuf23 Yesterday OP
Russian bots and no doubt GOP operatives pushed this to divide the the party. usonian Yesterday #1
here is the proper link Celerity Yesterday #2
I would be interested in knowing what the impact of other positions karynnj 18 hrs ago #17
Thank you for the link now in the OP. PufPuf23 10 hrs ago #19
Fuck all this nitpicking, what about the big things - Russian interferance and corporate money? groundloop 22 hrs ago #3
And Republican ownership of media... Chemical Bill 36 min ago #28
Add it to the list. A whole lot of things cost her votes. thesquanderer 22 hrs ago #4
She was a great candidate who was poorly placed by a botched primary. travelingthrulife 21 hrs ago #6
Actually the short campaign window wasn't short enough Shrek 21 hrs ago #9
More time wouldn't necessarily have helped, but... thesquanderer 18 hrs ago #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Omaha Steve 22 hrs ago #5
Large portions of the world population believe that the Israeli state apparatus, IDF, and settler conduct Prairie Gates 21 hrs ago #7
So they voted for Trump. That makes perfect sense. yardwork 21 hrs ago #8
It cost the Dems something to believe that sentiment could be ignored and belittled Prairie Gates 20 hrs ago #10
How do you know they made that calculation? yardwork 20 hrs ago #12
We all saw the kids out in the streets against the war womanofthehills 9 hrs ago #23
Note that I agree with you. PufPuf23 9 hrs ago #20
How did that work out for them? Mz Pip 20 hrs ago #11
Allowing a genocide isn't good Prairie Gates 20 hrs ago #13
Can't find it at the link Mysterian 19 hrs ago #14
Sufficient to change the outcome? Grins 18 hrs ago #16
The reason made the post was that the story was the top of the Times of Israel liveblog. PufPuf23 9 hrs ago #21
You-Gov poll, internal poll & exit womanofthehills 8 hrs ago #24
Yeah, they sure showed her Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin 17 hrs ago #18
Supporters of the choices being made by Israel poured lots of funds via PufPuf23 9 hrs ago #22
Remember Trump lying big time during his campaign womanofthehills 8 hrs ago #25
No RandySF 8 hrs ago #26
IMO, she lost because Trump's lies, fear-mongering and bigotry attracted more votes than decency. Doodley 8 hrs ago #27

usonian

(24,396 posts)
1. Russian bots and no doubt GOP operatives pushed this to divide the the party.
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 03:07 AM
Yesterday

Damage done.

Gaza was destroyed thanks to the abstainers.

And America is being destroyed, as well.

STOP ICE. STOP TRUMP, STOP VANCE, THIEL AND MUSK. STOP MIKEY.

Do it or there's nothing left.

Celerity

(54,015 posts)
2. here is the proper link
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 03:58 AM
Yesterday
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/report-democrats-internal-review-finds-harris-lost-votes-in-2024-due-to-her-stance-on-gaza/

An internal investigation within the US Democratic Party has found that former US vice president Kamala Harris’s stance on Gaza and Israel’s war against Hamas cost her votes in the 2024 election, the Axios news outlet reports.

According to Axios, this information was uncovered by the Democratic National Committee amid its probe into the errors and pitfalls that led to Harris losing against US President Donald Trump. The DNC said last year it would not make its findings public.

Nevertheless, Axios says members of the DNC informed pro-Palestinian activists from the IMEU Policy Project that their data showed Harris’s stance on Israel and Gaza — which was in line with the policies of former US president Joe Biden — was overall a “net negative” in the election.

Axios says it had “independently verified” that the DNC believes Harris’s policies on Israel and Gaza did alienate some voters. The DNC confirms to Axios that it did indeed speak to the IMEU Policy Project but declines to provide details on the meeting.

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karynnj

(60,860 posts)
17. I would be interested in knowing what the impact of other positions
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 12:57 PM
18 hrs ago

would have been.

From memory, she was seen as being less pro-Israel than Biden. Biden himself took steps to reject sending some of the strongest weapons to Israel. If this is correct, this means that both Biden and Harris had moved to less pro Netanyahu positions.

So, what position could they have taken and what would its impact be? I would imagine that the next step they could have taken was a complete ban on offensive weapons to Israel. (That would still allow defensive weapons, such as replenishing what was needed for the Iron Dome ). Although difficult to test after an election, if their analysis leading to these conclusions involved polling voters, they could ask how they would have voted had she stated that was her position. Obviously, there might be vote changes in both directions. One caveat is that asking now, they first need to ask, knowing what you know now, how would you vote to make sure they are not just picking up people regretting their vote.

I actually think it might not have been Harris's position, but the War in Gaza itself that was the problem because of our decades long weird relationship with Israel.

PufPuf23

(9,758 posts)
19. Thank you for the link now in the OP.
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 09:15 PM
10 hrs ago

Would have fixed earlier but as gone for 8 hours to go to doctor appointment.

Link originally used worked when first made the post.

groundloop

(13,690 posts)
3. Fuck all this nitpicking, what about the big things - Russian interferance and corporate money?
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 08:25 AM
22 hrs ago

Chemical Bill

(3,143 posts)
28. And Republican ownership of media...
Tue Feb 24, 2026, 06:47 AM
36 min ago

And billionaire right wing PACs, and Russian money, and the Republican war on education, and the Republican voter purges, and...

thesquanderer

(12,938 posts)
4. Add it to the list. A whole lot of things cost her votes.
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 08:27 AM
22 hrs ago

the short campaign window

hewing so closely to a Biden legacy that many had already grown skeptical about (which I guess includes OP's reference to stance on Gaza)

not being a great campaigner/communicator (e.g. for much of the campaign, she avoided interviews and press conferences, and often didn't do so great when she didn't)

and okay, she was a woman and a person of color, though I think that factor is often overstated on DU... because the "I won't vote for a woman" or "I won't vote for a POC" voters are, I believe, overwhelmingly people who would almost certainly vote for a Republican over a Democrat anyway.

travelingthrulife

(4,960 posts)
6. She was a great candidate who was poorly placed by a botched primary.
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 09:24 AM
21 hrs ago

So sick of people trashing a very good candidate.

Shrek

(4,409 posts)
9. Actually the short campaign window wasn't short enough
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 10:00 AM
21 hrs ago

In the first month or so after entering the race she had a substantial bounce in the polls and there was a palpable sense of joy and relief among the electorate. Trump and Vance were constantly on the defensive with all the mockery about being "weird" and the online couch ridicule, while Harris/Walz rallies were raucous and enthusiastic. Had the election been held in early August I believe she'd have won comfortably.

After that she steadily lost ground and there's nothing to suggest that a longer campaign would have resulted in a turnaround.

thesquanderer

(12,938 posts)
15. More time wouldn't necessarily have helped, but...
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 12:25 PM
18 hrs ago

...things weren't so rosy earlier. Check the state polls between the convention and election day... Harris was pretty consistently behind in Georgia and Arizona, and Pennsylvania was consistently a toss-up. Electorally, if she didn't win on Nov 4, I don't think there was any earlier day she'd have been likely to win either. I don't know that more time would have made a difference, but it was one thing that might have helped.

https://www.270towin.com/2024-presidential-election-polls/

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Prairie Gates

(7,671 posts)
7. Large portions of the world population believe that the Israeli state apparatus, IDF, and settler conduct
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 09:36 AM
21 hrs ago

in the West Bank and Gaza is not just criminal, but fundamentally evil.

You can pretend that it is simple antisemitism all you want, but it is a fact. That includes big portions of the US population. And not just the activists. A lot of people have held their tongue and watched what was happening, and said nothing but silently stewed about what the IDF was and is doing in Gaza.

Prairie Gates

(7,671 posts)
10. It cost the Dems something to believe that sentiment could be ignored and belittled
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 10:33 AM
20 hrs ago

That's for sure. And the Harris campaign absolutely made the calculation that they could ignore those people and those sentiments far more easily than they could ignore AIPAC. And here we are.

yardwork

(69,149 posts)
12. How do you know they made that calculation?
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 10:51 AM
20 hrs ago

Are you a member of her team?

Look, I agree that the DNC is dominated by old white dudes who are still using outmoded, unsuccessful campaign strategies and messaging. I agree that that approach doesn't serve us well. We need an overhaul of Democratic campaign strategies.

But this idea that Harris deliberately alienated voters by calling for a reasonable approach to the decades-long mess in the Middle East is bullshit.

Voters had a clear choice between pure evil and "not perfect but sincerely working on a solution" and they chose evil.

I will never forget or forgive.

womanofthehills

(10,845 posts)
23. We all saw the kids out in the streets against the war
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 10:18 PM
9 hrs ago

Protesting against war. Many just stayed home because of their anti war stance.

Remember Trump lied and called himself the antiwar candidate.

She probably would have easily won if she took an anti war stance. The younger generation keeps seeing too many injured and dead kids on their phones.

PufPuf23

(9,758 posts)
20. Note that I agree with you.
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 09:24 PM
9 hrs ago

Breaks my heart. Held my tongue because was called antisemitic on several occasions

POTUS Biden and candidate Harris were for a two-state solution, an immediate cease fire and more conditions regards arm deliveries.

Supporters of Israel did much to kneecap the Democratic candidates. There is a major split in the Democratic Party over these issues.

Netanyahu is very happy with Trump.

Mz Pip

(28,412 posts)
11. How did that work out for them?
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 10:47 AM
20 hrs ago

This is a fine example of of the perfect being the enemy of the good.

Grins

(9,365 posts)
16. Sufficient to change the outcome?
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 12:34 PM
18 hrs ago

Doesn’t say. Exactly how many votes and where?

This is a non-story.

PufPuf23

(9,758 posts)
21. The reason made the post was that the story was the top of the Times of Israel liveblog.
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 09:30 PM
9 hrs ago

Thought that was interesting in and of itself.

IMO the election was lost because of choices made in support of Israel when Israel was making bad choices.

womanofthehills

(10,845 posts)
24. You-Gov poll, internal poll & exit
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 10:28 PM
8 hrs ago

Ai

- A January 2025 poll by YouGov, commissioned by the Institute for Middle East Understanding (IMEU) Policy Project, surveyed voters nationwide and found that among those who supported Joe Biden in 2020 but did not vote for Harris in 2024 (or stayed home), 29% cited "ending Israel's violence in Gaza" as the top issue influencing their decision. This ranked higher than the economy (24%) or immigration (11%). The poll highlighted this as a significant factor in reduced Democratic turnout, especially in swing states like Michigan, where Harris underperformed compared to Biden's 2020 margins.



- The Democratic National Committee's (DNC) internal "autopsy" report on the 2024 election, as reported in February 2026, concluded that the Biden-Harris administration's pro-Israel stance on Gaza was a "net-negative" for the campaign. Based on the party's own data, it cost Harris votes, particularly among younger and progressive voters, leading to lower support in key battleground states. This review was not made public, but details were shared with pro-Palestinian groups like IMEU.

- Exit polls and post-election analyses, such as those from CNN, The Washington Post, and Fox News, showed Harris winning young voters (ages 18-29) by only 11 points in 2024, compared to Biden's 24-point margin in 2020—a 13-point shift toward Trump. In Michigan cities with large Arab American populations like Dearborn, Harris received about 22,000 fewer votes than Biden did in 2020, with some analyses attributing this directly to frustration over Gaza policy.

These findings suggest that while Gaza was not the sole reason for Harris's defeat, it played a measurable role in eroding support from key Democratic constituencies.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(134,369 posts)
18. Yeah, they sure showed her
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 02:08 PM
17 hrs ago

Now you have Donny boy who wants to move everyone out and build a resort.

Brilliant!!!!!!!!!

PufPuf23

(9,758 posts)
22. Supporters of the choices being made by Israel poured lots of funds via
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 09:38 PM
9 hrs ago

AIPAC, other dark money and individual donors to Trump and the GOP.

Look at the donations to Trump by Miriam Adelson and her dead husband alone to support Trump, the GOP, Netanyahu and militant Zionism in general.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miriam_Adelson

womanofthehills

(10,845 posts)
25. Remember Trump lying big time during his campaign
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 10:30 PM
8 hrs ago

Calling himself the anti war candidate. Instead of voting, many young stayed home.

RandySF

(82,872 posts)
26. No
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 10:37 PM
8 hrs ago

It was the people who decided that Trump’s return was a small price to pay for making a statement.

Doodley

(11,825 posts)
27. IMO, she lost because Trump's lies, fear-mongering and bigotry attracted more votes than decency.
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 10:56 PM
8 hrs ago
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