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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:06 AM Jan 2013

Poll: 66 Percent Of Virginia Voters Want Armed Guards In Schools

Source: TPM


TOM KLUDT 8:36 AM EST, THURSDAY JANUARY 10, 2013

The National Rifle Association's call for armed guards in schools across the country drew intense criticism in many circles, but a poll released Thursday shows that voters in a key swing state overwhelmingly support the proposal.

According to the latest survey from Quinnipiac University, 66 percent of registered voters in Virginia favor the idea of placing armed police officers in the Commonwealth's public schools while only 29 percent are opposed.

But Virginia voters are staunchly opposed to arming educators: 31 percent favor allowing teachers to carry concealed weapons in the classroom, compared with 66 percent who are opposed.

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Poll: 66 Percent Of Virginia Voters Want Armed Guards In Schools (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2013 OP
Then they need to pay higher taxes. LiberalFighter Jan 2013 #1
Seriously. the follow-up question should have been "How would you like to pay for it?" eom Maeve Jan 2013 #2
NO atreides1 Jan 2013 #3
We don't work that way Bonduel Jan 2013 #9
If only we could identify them all. LiberalFighter Jan 2013 #15
doesn't matter, it would never pass anyway Nine Jan 2013 #20
Chicago does it. former9thward Jan 2013 #21
Do they mean a 'well regulated militia?' onehandle Jan 2013 #4
Dammit, Virginians! sofa king Jan 2013 #5
notice- they want armed POLICE not armed Zimmerman/Paul Blarts graham4anything Jan 2013 #6
I'd rather see a poll of parents with school aged children. It's what they want that counts. sinkingfeeling Jan 2013 #7
That's why I ignore these kinds of polls. n/t Tempest Jan 2013 #11
I bet the number is higher for NYtoBush-Drop Dead Jan 2013 #8
This Gun Thing Is Getting Worse otohara Jan 2013 #10
I live in a concealed weapon state, I often wonder who I'm walking among ... because I see RKP5637 Jan 2013 #12
Christmas Day We Went to a Movie otohara Jan 2013 #16
That, is scary. I live in KS and a guy just shot his wife in the leg while reaching in his RKP5637 Jan 2013 #17
Already joelg Jan 2013 #13
I grew up in Virginia Beach. Dr_Scholl Jan 2013 #25
The article is misleading SpartanDem Jan 2013 #14
Our Va county already has SRO's ileus Jan 2013 #18
I wonder what the vote would be if Obama called for federal agents in schools arcane1 Jan 2013 #19
There are approximately 2100 schools (public) and 1.2 million students... Historic NY Jan 2013 #22
Why are you picking out that item? former9thward Jan 2013 #23
Because its about armed police officers..... Historic NY Jan 2013 #24

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
3. NO
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:14 AM
Jan 2013

The NRA who made the suggestion, the gun manufacturers who make the product, and the "66%" that like the idea should pay higher taxes!

Not all Virginians!

 

Bonduel

(96 posts)
9. We don't work that way
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:11 AM
Jan 2013

Are you saying that only those who support abortion should pay taxes to assist in abortions? Should only those who support green technology and energy pay taxes for those interests? We don't and can't work that way.

LiberalFighter

(50,928 posts)
15. If only we could identify them all.
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:37 PM
Jan 2013

I suppose a work around would be to impose a tax on sales of any firearm or ammo sales in Virginia and an annual $1 tax on the NRA for each member residing in Virginia? More than likely it would be difficult to get the necessary data on that. It probably still wouldn't be enough to fund the security for schools in Virginia.

Nine

(1,741 posts)
20. doesn't matter, it would never pass anyway
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 01:01 PM
Jan 2013

Get a commission to figure out the true cost, not just in salary but in liability insurance and all other costs. Put a levy on the ballot for it. It won't pass, I guarantee. Anything sounds good if you think it's free.

former9thward

(32,006 posts)
21. Chicago does it.
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 01:30 PM
Jan 2013

They have 2000 armed police and other security in their schools every day. They seem to be able to afford it.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
5. Dammit, Virginians!
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:25 AM
Jan 2013

Think this through, people! If you arm people in schools, you are automatically arming potential school shooters.

If people in schools are armed, school shooters don't even have to worry about procuring a weapon, getting it inside, or dealing with a defender in the school, because they can solve all three of those problems by starting with killing the guard with the gun.

(edit: "guard," not teacher, as if there is a major difference. To a murderous and suicidal person, the person with the gun is merely the first target.)

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
6. notice- they want armed POLICE not armed Zimmerman/Paul Blarts
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:27 AM
Jan 2013

I have nothing against uniformed law enforcement federal/state/local

but no private force.and make sure they are not racists.

If one is hiring, why not hire the best, either Minister Farakhan's the singular best in security,
or have special forces trained by Mossad.

Israel is a democracy that has armed guards on the street. And it works pretty well these days.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
12. I live in a concealed weapon state, I often wonder who I'm walking among ... because I see
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:13 PM
Jan 2013

some I wouldn't like having a water pistol.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
16. Christmas Day We Went to a Movie
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:37 PM
Jan 2013

and for the first time evah ... the pa system voice tells us to look for all exit signs in case of an emergency. First thing that comes to your mind is Aurora.
I live in CO

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
17. That, is scary. I live in KS and a guy just shot his wife in the leg while reaching in his
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:41 PM
Jan 2013

pocket at dinner in a restaurant and somehow grabbed the trigger of his concealed pistol.

 

Dr_Scholl

(212 posts)
25. I grew up in Virginia Beach.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:56 AM
Jan 2013

Both the middle and high school I attended had a cop stationed there. Virginia Beach is far from being a bad area.

SpartanDem

(4,533 posts)
14. The article is misleading
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:31 PM
Jan 2013

it confuses the NRA's call for arm teacher vs supporting trained police officers.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
22. There are approximately 2100 schools (public) and 1.2 million students...
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 01:47 PM
Jan 2013

in Va. I don't know how many more private- semi-private - religious- etc there are.

The entire COPS budget request for 2013 is 289.6 million for 188 positions

http://www.justice.gov/jmd/2013summary/pdf/fy13-cops-bud-summary.pdf

former9thward

(32,006 posts)
23. Why are you picking out that item?
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:03 PM
Jan 2013

COPS has nothing to do with schools with respect to providing security. They do educational type of presentations and work with community groups on specific crime strategy. They are not guards.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
24. Because its about armed police officers.....
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:44 AM
Jan 2013

"66 percent of registered voters in Virginia favor the idea of placing armed police officers in schools"

COPs program hires cops it also provided money for rehiring cops. Community policing is more than just talking to groups...its a policing philosphy. COPS was the program Clinton came up with to hire 100000 cops. It never happened as you can see it barely now funds 188 positions with it requirements. I posted it to show just how much money is there.

You might be thinking DARE and that done with. .

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