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riversedge

(81,028 posts)
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 06:38 AM Mar 17

All 4 living former presidents deny Trump's bizarre Iran bombing claim

Source: raw story


Robert Davis March 16, 2026 7:11PM ET


Aides to all four living presidents confirmed to CNN on Monday that none of them have spoken with President Donald Trump about his bombing strikes in Iran, as Trump claimed during a press conference.

Trump claimed in the Oval Office that he had spoken to a former president about bombing Iran, and that the former president had approved of the operation. Trump added that the former president claimed he "wished" he had made the decision to bomb Iran. The president also declined to identify which president he was talking about.

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"A spokesman for Clinton told CNN that no recent conversations have taken place between Clinton and Trump — about Iran or anything else," they reported.

"Aides to Bush, Obama and Biden offered similar sentiments on Monday, saying there is no record of any communications with Trump," the report added. .....................







Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/trump-iran-2676245068/






Maybe he had a deep conversation with Andrew Jackson or James Monroe?

Anders Puck Nielsen (@anderspucknielsen.dk) 2026-03-17T10:24:48.116Z






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All 4 living former presidents deny Trump's bizarre Iran bombing claim (Original Post) riversedge Mar 17 OP
When is it going to be enough for the people livetohike Mar 17 #1
I understand the frustration, but my question to you... Trueblue Texan Mar 17 #4
Do you think NJCher Mar 17 #6
IF trump were gone... PJMcK Mar 17 #15
If he was instructed to do so... Trueblue Texan Mar 17 #26
Vance is a tool of Thiel and Project 2025 but even so MadameButterfly Mar 17 #41
The 25th Amendment would unseat him if anyone had the guts livetohike Mar 17 #16
If they unseat him, they will lose their power. lastlib Mar 17 #24
Good points.n/t livetohike Mar 17 #37
Republicans could end this nightmare today if they chose to. travelingthrulife Mar 17 #42
No one, except Trump... IrishAfricanAmerican Mar 17 #19
All afraid of an old dying man. Pathetic. travelingthrulife Mar 17 #43
The press isn't cowed Keepthesoulalive Mar 17 #51
Yes, there's a better term than I chose. Collaborators. IrishAfricanAmerican Mar 17 #52
I'm going to turn that question back on you - TBF Mar 17 #60
As soon as brainwashed idiots stop voting republican Mysterian Mar 17 #48
He spoke to Lincoln. "You know the guy. He has a nice car." Onthefly Mar 17 #2
Perhaps he was referring to himself, being an ex-president & all EYESORE 9001 Mar 17 #3
that's my theory... he is barking mad LymphocyteLover Mar 17 #9
That's it! 2naSalit Mar 17 #32
Exactly HighFired49 Mar 18 #61
Trump will say that they're lying... or that "the president he spoke with is simply respecting the privacy... QueerDuck Mar 17 #5
Perhaps Canada's President Poutine called him up again ... that guy shows up when he knows he's most needed. nt eppur_se_muova Mar 17 #7
Trump didn't say he spoke to a former U.S. president, he could have consulted with any former president. sop Mar 17 #13
Tommy Flanagan, the President of the Pathological Liars Club ? eppur_se_muova Mar 17 #23
Trump being full of shit, as usual. oasis Mar 17 #8
This is because he thinks the voices in his head are real. Ray Bruns Mar 17 #10
I think the orange pedo was referring to himself. Javaman Mar 17 #11
Telling lies and blaming someone else is $hitler's MO. love_katz Mar 17 #12
Trump was President 45 and now is 47 rpannier Mar 17 #14
My thought exactly Pototan Mar 17 #18
Could it be he is lying?!!!!!! Playingmantis Mar 17 #17
He's a known crook and liar. He's also in the Epstein files Joinfortmill Mar 17 #20
Didn't Nixon talk to ex-presidents' portraits when he got drunk BigmanPigman Mar 17 #21
I think he's lying about not drinking. He lies about everything livetohike Mar 17 #38
Bush Whip-poor-will Mar 17 #22
Maybe he spoke to Putin...... lastlib Mar 17 #25
Maybe it was Nicolas Maduro he spoke to. generalbetrayus Mar 17 #27
The befuddled, deranged President obviously confused Putin with one of our President. Fla Dem Mar 17 #28
The 47th president spoke to the 45th president. Americanme Mar 17 #29
Not so much a lie as a stark delusional thought. JohnnyLib2 Mar 17 #30
His Cabinet members are just as nuts as he is. travelingthrulife Mar 17 #44
When George W. Bush chides you for starting an unnecessary war, you know things have gone around the bend. Aristus Mar 17 #31
I don't think Bush "chided" Trump for anything. He just said he didn't tell Trump that he should have attacked Iraq Martin68 Mar 17 #46
Rapist is a serial liar. He is also delusional. City Lights Mar 17 #33
But was it a living president *of the United States* that he spoke to? Ocelot II Mar 17 #34
Maybe he's just talking to himself. C_U_L8R Mar 17 #35
He's really flailing. NH Ethylene Mar 17 #36
Trump must be hallucinating about chatting up Herbert Hoover again Attilatheblond Mar 17 #39
Talked to a former president ironman99 Mar 17 #40
Trump is a lying liar who can't speak for more than a minute without introducing a new lie. Such a transparently Martin68 Mar 17 #45
His favorite, the former president of McDonald's. KY_EnviroGuy Mar 17 #47
MaddowBlog-As war continues, Trump points to support from his many secret, unnamed friends LetMyPeopleVote Mar 17 #49
Fred should have pulled out in 1945 instead of giving us this monster. Talitha Mar 17 #50
Made-up Conversations And... 2na fisherman Mar 17 #53
Trump will be a pathological liar until the day he dies (soon please) Number9Dream Mar 17 #54
He lies constantly. We all know former Trumpers who regret voting for him and support Democrats handling of Republicans ChicagoTeamster Mar 17 #55
In Trump's defense, those other 4 Presidents were not there. Bluetus Mar 17 #56
Did he specifically say "President of the United States"? Intractable Mar 17 #57
Isn't it clear? debPip Mar 17 #58
Welcome to DU bagimin Mar 17 #59
He's a living, former president. Scalded Nun Mar 18 #62

livetohike

(24,322 posts)
1. When is it going to be enough for the people
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 06:46 AM
Mar 17

who have the power to put an end to this? He’s delusional. No grasp on reality to figure out that people can and will check on his claims.

Trueblue Texan

(4,522 posts)
4. I understand the frustration, but my question to you...
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 07:00 AM
Mar 17

...is what do you propose be done about it? All the choices are about as useful as the choice to bomb Iran. Once TSF is out, we get an equally evil and far more competent and functional person to execute the rest of the agenda to destroy the US. It's like jumping from the frying pan to the fire.

NJCher

(43,267 posts)
6. Do you think
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 07:10 AM
Mar 17

Vance would have declared war or even an “excursion” into Iran?

In regard to the rest of their evil agenda, please take into consideration the closeness in the House now.

PJMcK

(25,057 posts)
15. IF trump were gone...
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 08:02 AM
Mar 17

... Vance would be a place-holder, much like Ford. There wouldn't be any wild policies because Vance would not have the power over Congress that Trump seems to have.

Boring but mildly stable.

MadameButterfly

(4,087 posts)
41. Vance is a tool of Thiel and Project 2025 but even so
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 11:03 AM
Mar 17

if the military warned him about the Straights of Hormuz he'd be able to process what that means. He doesn't have the mental illness Trump has that makes aggression involuntary.

It's also possible that the cult ends with Trump, and Vance won't have a following that will let him do just anything.
Unless the Russians or people behind Qanon can just create another cult leader.

livetohike

(24,322 posts)
16. The 25th Amendment would unseat him if anyone had the guts
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 08:08 AM
Mar 17

to initiate this. It needs to be done now. So Vance holds the position until 2028 elections. I think he may be smart enough to realize his chances in 2028 will be greatly diminished if he tries to replicate The Felon’s craziness.

lastlib

(28,362 posts)
24. If they unseat him, they will lose their power.
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 09:14 AM
Mar 17

That's a price they're not willing to pay. They can't give up their wet dream of screwing over the working class.

Here's another factor: The Constitution basically limits a person to serving ten years in the Presidency--the Vice-President serving the last two years of a pevious president's term, plus two terms of his own. If tRump is removed before the mid-terms, then Vance could only serve one term as president thereafter. I don't think he would give up the possibility of serving two terms, so he won't do anything for another year.

IrishAfricanAmerican

(4,496 posts)
19. No one, except Trump...
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 08:33 AM
Mar 17

can get away with propagandizing an issue for weeks and then when the press asks him about it his answer is ALWAYS, "I don't know anything about it." The press has been cowed and is incapable of challenging him. I don't think anyone else would be able to get away with that so, yes, I believe it would improve things and allow congress to claw back control.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,323 posts)
51. The press isn't cowed
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 12:42 PM
Mar 17

They are complicit. All we heard about before the elections that Biden was mentally impaired but now they sit and nod in agreement like the trained amoebas they are. They helped lead us to this disaster. Let’s not expect them to be responsible journalists.

TBF

(36,838 posts)
60. I'm going to turn that question back on you -
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 09:30 PM
Mar 17

what happens if Donald dies? It can happen to anyone. "What do you propose to be done about it?"

We get a somewhat more competent person, but he doesn't have nearly the charisma or following that Trump does. Lame duck until the next election.

I could live with that.

Onthefly

(1,315 posts)
2. He spoke to Lincoln. "You know the guy. He has a nice car."
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 06:47 AM
Mar 17

Why isn’t the press sounding the alarm?

EYESORE 9001

(29,794 posts)
3. Perhaps he was referring to himself, being an ex-president & all
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 06:49 AM
Mar 17

All the voices in his head are in one accord.

2naSalit

(103,172 posts)
32. That's it!
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 09:43 AM
Mar 17

He got roasted the last time he admitted that he only listens to his 'beautiful mind" so he's not tellin' anymore.

QueerDuck

(1,807 posts)
5. Trump will say that they're lying... or that "the president he spoke with is simply respecting the privacy...
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 07:07 AM
Mar 17

...and confidential nature of the discussion by denying or not confirming the conversation took place."

🤢🤮

eppur_se_muova

(42,062 posts)
7. Perhaps Canada's President Poutine called him up again ... that guy shows up when he knows he's most needed. nt
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 07:18 AM
Mar 17

Last edited Tue Mar 17, 2026, 10:44 AM - Edit history (1)

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/22-minutes-star-pulls-prank-on-george-w-bush-1.212339

(But he was referred to as PM, I thought the caller went further and called him the "Canadian President".)

sop

(18,825 posts)
13. Trump didn't say he spoke to a former U.S. president, he could have consulted with any former president.
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 07:47 AM
Mar 17

The former president of Trump University? The Trump Fan Club?

Javaman

(65,848 posts)
11. I think the orange pedo was referring to himself.
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 07:43 AM
Mar 17

he asked his first term self if he was the greatest president of all time, and oddly enough, his first term self said, "no, I'm the greatest of all time but I like what you are doing in Iran".

he's a delusional pedo

love_katz

(3,266 posts)
12. Telling lies and blaming someone else is $hitler's MO.
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 07:46 AM
Mar 17

The MFer has never been held to account for the dumb a$$ stunts he pulls. He's always used his daddy's money to abuse our two-tier criminal justice system.

As a society, we are being brought face to face with the consequences of greed and unlimited wealth: destruction of our democracy and the structure provided by our government; injustice for anyone without unlimited funds; abject poverty and enforced serfdom of the majority by the Epstein class; destruction of the life support systems and beauty of our planet; etc, ad nauseum.

No one is riding to the rescue. I fear the kind of extreme measures that will probably be needed to end this nightmare and turn things around. I think most of us know that violent uprisings can make things worse in the long run ( meet the new boss, same as the old boss).
What makes this mess so unbearably aggravating is that it was avoidable. It was avoidable during Been A Dick's first run for office.
I think we need to keep blaring about the Epstein Files. It seems to be the only thread that we can pull on.

BigmanPigman

(55,294 posts)
21. Didn't Nixon talk to ex-presidents' portraits when he got drunk
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 08:48 AM
Mar 17

toward the end of his time in the White House? Maybe that's what is happening to tRump, except without the booze. Can you picture tRump drunk? He acts drunk when sober, maybe he should start drinking and see if that makes him seem sober/less crazy. Right now he makes zero sense when he speaks, he slurs most his words, he can't walk a straight line, he isn't aware of who people are and what he is supposed to do most of the time.

livetohike

(24,322 posts)
38. I think he's lying about not drinking. He lies about everything
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 10:15 AM
Mar 17

else. I hope I live long enough to have all of his secrets uncovered.

Whip-poor-will

(320 posts)
22. Bush
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 09:03 AM
Mar 17

GHW Bush is my guess.

He would have been the one who had that conversation about wanting to bomb about 20 years?? ago.

generalbetrayus

(1,902 posts)
27. Maybe it was Nicolas Maduro he spoke to.
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 09:31 AM
Mar 17

He snatched and is keeping the former President of Venezuela just for situations like this.

Americanme

(507 posts)
29. The 47th president spoke to the 45th president.
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 09:37 AM
Mar 17

In your guts, you know he's nuts. Or a damn liar.

JohnnyLib2

(11,337 posts)
30. Not so much a lie as a stark delusional thought.
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 09:39 AM
Mar 17

Alarm bells should be going off from the Chiefs of Staff and probably are.

Aristus

(72,283 posts)
31. When George W. Bush chides you for starting an unnecessary war, you know things have gone around the bend.
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 09:43 AM
Mar 17

n/t

Martin68

(27,863 posts)
46. I don't think Bush "chided" Trump for anything. He just said he didn't tell Trump that he should have attacked Iraq
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 11:22 AM
Mar 17

while he was president.

Ocelot II

(130,768 posts)
34. But was it a living president *of the United States* that he spoke to?
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 09:49 AM
Mar 17

I can think of several living presidents of not the United States that might have been all for it.

C_U_L8R

(49,426 posts)
35. Maybe he's just talking to himself.
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 09:50 AM
Mar 17

Nothing would surprise at this point. His mind is rancid oatmeal.

NH Ethylene

(31,371 posts)
36. He's really flailing.
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 10:09 AM
Mar 17

He's desperate, and none of his bullying and threatening and ridiculous lying is helping him.

It's enjoyable to watch.

Attilatheblond

(8,994 posts)
39. Trump must be hallucinating about chatting up Herbert Hoover again
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 10:35 AM
Mar 17
Just spoke with the brilliant Herbert Hoover. He agreed I am doing great things and the economy will be the envy of the world.

ironman99

(156 posts)
40. Talked to a former president
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 10:41 AM
Mar 17

It did talk to a former president, President 45 was the one the 47 talked to.

Martin68

(27,863 posts)
45. Trump is a lying liar who can't speak for more than a minute without introducing a new lie. Such a transparently
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 11:20 AM
Mar 17

self-serving lie told like a five-year-old, hoping no one will notice.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,792 posts)
47. His favorite, the former president of McDonald's.
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 11:54 AM
Mar 17

That would be typical for this idiot (golf course governing)........

LetMyPeopleVote

(180,479 posts)
49. MaddowBlog-As war continues, Trump points to support from his many secret, unnamed friends
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 12:02 PM
Mar 17

The president is certain he’s on the right track in Iran because he’s received backing from powerful people he refuses to identify.

An unidentified former president told Trump how right he was to launch the war in Iran. Unidentified foreign officials also told him they’re enthusiastic about Strait of Hormuz assistance.

It’s amazing how Trump enjoys the support of his many secret friends, isn’t it?
www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2026-03-17T12:47:07.741Z


Toward the end of Donald Trump’s remarks at a Kennedy Center board event on Monday, the president took a moment to congratulate himself on launching a war with Iran, while claiming to have received private validation from one of his White House predecessors.

TRUMP: I've spoken to a certain president, who I like actually, a past president, he said, 'I wish I did it.' But they didn't do it. I'm doing it.

Q: Which president?

TRUMP: I can't tell you that. It would be very bad for his career even though he's got no career left.

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2026-03-16T17:12:25.531Z


According to the Republican incumbent, he recently spoke to “a certain” former president who allegedly told him, in reference to the military offensive in Iran, “I wish I did it. I wish I did.” Asked which former president made the comments, Trump replied, “I can’t tell you that. I don’t want to embarrass him. It would be very bad for his career, even though he’s got no career left.”

Hours later, in the Oval Office, he repeated the story, claiming that a former president told him, “I wish I did what you did.” (Trump specifically said it was not George W. Bush.).....

Relatedly, the incumbent president boasted that there are countries that have responded to his call to assist the United States in the Strait of Hormuz, and that his administration would be “announcing them” soon. “I have to tell you, we have some that are really enthusiastic,” the Republican added. “They’re coming already. They’ve already started to get there.”

Trump on countries that will help keep Strait of Hormuz open: "We'll be announcing them. I have to tell you, we have some that are really enthusiastic. They're coming already. They've already started to. We'll give you a list."

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2026-03-16T16:58:32.609Z


The comments were notable in part because of Trump’s increasing incoherence on the subject, having changed his mind several times about whether he wants, needs or expects other countries to provide assistance in the region. (At one point on Monday, he claimed that he’d only sought international support as part of some kind of test, “because I want to find out how they react.”)....

In 2018, Bloomberg News published a memorable report that referred to Trump’s many “anonymous validators”: unnamed figures who were invariably important and powerful, who privately and habitually assured the president how right he was about his positions and priorities.

Eight year later, Trump continues to revel in the support of his many secret friends.

2na fisherman

(337 posts)
53. Made-up Conversations And...
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 01:29 PM
Mar 17

Another thing he does to try to mask obvious falsehoods is to use supposed comments of support with no attributions. Words like, "I've been hearing that..." and "Some people are saying that..." The Press should be asking him, where did you hear that and which people are saying that, but they don't. He has also been known to quote fictitious characters such as John Barron, often to praise himself or leak information.

ChicagoTeamster

(1,041 posts)
55. He lies constantly. We all know former Trumpers who regret voting for him and support Democrats handling of Republicans
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 05:30 PM
Mar 17

Bluetus

(2,922 posts)
56. In Trump's defense, those other 4 Presidents were not there.
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 05:32 PM
Mar 17

There has never been a more obvious case of senile dementia. With senility, there is no ability to differentiate between things that happened for real and those that only happened in one's mind. And there is no ability to differentiate between things that happened an hour ago versus 50 years ago.

I am around advanced senility patients every day. I have no doubt that Trump believes he did have this conversation, complete with "Sir, I only wish I had done this so you wouldn't have to."

I had one of these very advanced patients tell me today, "I have been working on a new design for an airplane." Well, 55 years ago, he did design some systems for aircraft. To him, it is as real as if it happened this morning. He has no drafting board, no calculator, not even a pencil and paper.

That is how dementia works. This guy was not lying to me. It never happened, but it was 100% real to him, just as real as the high school sweetheart he intends to propose to after having seen her at a class reunion a month ago. (She died 6 years ago.)

Now, here's the important thing. You don't recover from senile dementia. One just tries to put the patient in safe surroundings. The professionals advise us never to argue with their stories, because that just raises their anxiety levels. We just smile and let it pass. 10 minutes later, their mind is somewhere completely different.

But ... we can't have this with our President.

To take it one step further, Trump refused to identify the "President" with whom he had this "conversation." On one hand, one might say Trump was caught in a trap, sensed the danger, and tried to bullshit his way through. At some level, he might have had that thought process. But let me tell you, these recovered memories are not perfect. They are like dreams. When you wake up from a dream, you might remember some details clearly, but many of the details will be very cloudy, frustratingly so. I think this is the case with Trump. I think he honestly couldn't remember WHICH President it was. He just remembers the "Sir ... you were so right, and you did what I should have done. Thank you, sir." In his brain, it was not important WHO said this to him.

But I do think it is interesting that his conscious mind tried to put the pieces together. He did have a feeling it was a Democrat, and somebody he liked, but the brain refused to give him a clear picture. As he thinks more about it, I think he will come to believe it was Clinton, but his conscious mind will keep him from digging the hole deeper.

Intractable

(2,278 posts)
57. Did he specifically say "President of the United States"?
Tue Mar 17, 2026, 05:40 PM
Mar 17

It could have been the president of some local Republican club.

Or, even more plausible, he made the whole thing up.

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