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BumRushDaShow

(169,950 posts)
Sat Apr 4, 2026, 05:00 AM Yesterday

House Democrat Accuses Trump of Being Ignorant or 'Lying to the American Public' About Iran's Anti-Aircraft Capabilities

Source: Yahoo! News/MEDIAite

Fri, April 3, 2026 at 5:07 PM EDT


During a Friday appearance on CNN, Rep. Seth Moulton (D-MA) accused President Donald Trump of either being ignorant or “lying to the American public” on Iran’s anti-aircraft capabilities.

His comments come as news broke on Friday that a U.S. F-15 jet was shot down over Iran by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps air defense system. So far, one pilot has been rescued by American special operations forces, while the search for the second remains ongoing.

“This happened a day after the president got on TV to the nation and said, among other bombastic claims, that they had completely eliminated Iranian anti-aircraft facilities,” Moulton said, referring to Trump’s Wednesday televised address.

“24 hours later,” he continued, “they shoot down an advanced U.S. Fighter jet. This just shows how incredibly out of his league the president is. The commander in chief doesn’t know what he’s talking about. He’s lying to the American public, and he’s putting our troops at grave risk.”

Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/house-democrat-accuses-trump-being-210744306.html

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House Democrat Accuses Trump of Being Ignorant or 'Lying to the American Public' About Iran's Anti-Aircraft Capabilities (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Yesterday OP
My greatest fear is that COL Mustard Yesterday #1
they certainly have a lot of military capacity left... there was an article saying that the US has only destroyed 50% LymphocyteLover 10 hrs ago #17
" The commander in chief doesn't know what he's talking about. " AverageOldGuy Yesterday #2
All the ones telling him no are being fired. James48 Yesterday #3
Very Good people. Gone. In a war. COL Mustard Yesterday #8
Probably option #3 BumRushDaShow Yesterday #4
Gee... Maxheader Yesterday #11
Trump is ignorant and/or lying? lonely bird Yesterday #5
Here is the video on Youtube Bluetus Yesterday #6
Thanks for this. efhmc Yesterday #12
I have not followed Rep Moulton. He seems exactly what opposition reps SHOULD be Bluetus Yesterday #13
Seth Moulton is a MA Democrat , in case it hasn't been mentioned elsewhere here. raccoon 12 hrs ago #15
I assume the Iranians used either COL Mustard Yesterday #7
Military.com says it could have been shoulder powered missile. LeftInTX Yesterday #9
Never let the truth get in the way of a war. twodogsbarking Yesterday #10
OF COURSE he's lying. He's a pathological liar. AZ8theist 19 hrs ago #14
Can anybody compare Moulton with Markey? Bluetus 10 hrs ago #16

COL Mustard

(8,245 posts)
1. My greatest fear is that
Sat Apr 4, 2026, 07:32 AM
Yesterday

Iran has other capabilities that they’ve hidden or have masked, and that we only learn about them when they detonate an example.

LymphocyteLover

(9,863 posts)
17. they certainly have a lot of military capacity left... there was an article saying that the US has only destroyed 50%
Sun Apr 5, 2026, 08:12 AM
10 hrs ago

of their rocket launchers and they have thousands of drones left.

AverageOldGuy

(3,886 posts)
2. " The commander in chief doesn't know what he's talking about. "
Sat Apr 4, 2026, 07:46 AM
Yesterday

I doubt that the units involved in the fighting are sending bullshit up the chain of command.

In fact, I feel certain the information flowing to the Secretary of Defense and his senior advisors is clear as to what we do know, what we do not know, and what the possibilities are.

Somewhere between SECDFEF and his senior advisors and Trump's public pronouncements, bullshit enters the equation. Either:
-- some senior advisors (either uniformed or civlian) are making it sound good for Trump's ears, or,
-- Hegseth is injecting bullshit so he can tellTrump what he knows Trump wants to hear, or,
-- Trump is getting facts from Hegseth and is applying his own abysmal ignorance and stupidity to what comes out of his mouth.

Given the fact that both Trump and Hegseth are dumb as dirt and neither respects the truth, I suspect that's where bullshit enters the picutre -- Hegseth and Trump.

COL Mustard

(8,245 posts)
8. Very Good people. Gone. In a war.
Sat Apr 4, 2026, 11:03 AM
Yesterday

Which, in my opinion, we should not be in to begin with.

Bluetus

(2,847 posts)
13. I have not followed Rep Moulton. He seems exactly what opposition reps SHOULD be
Sat Apr 4, 2026, 03:37 PM
Yesterday

I just heard him in an interview on MSNOW, which was similar to this CNN interview.

He may be more conservative than me. I don't know. There is room for some different views on issues and different solutions to problems the American people face.

But there is NO ROOM for "centerists" who won't raise their voice about ANYTHING. I guess he is running for Senate to challenge Markey. I don't have a big problem with Markey -- there are much worse. But I would love to have Moulton's energy and forcefulness in the Senate in place of Schumer's strongly worded letters.

COL Mustard

(8,245 posts)
7. I assume the Iranians used either
Sat Apr 4, 2026, 11:02 AM
Yesterday

A Russian made S-300 system or an S-400.

I don't have any knowledge of what actually transpired but those are two very good ADA systems.

LeftInTX

(34,349 posts)
9. Military.com says it could have been shoulder powered missile.
Sat Apr 4, 2026, 11:57 AM
Yesterday

American planes have been flying missions at lower altitudes, which makes them more vulnerable to Iran's missiles, Taleblu said. It’s possible that Iran fired at the F-15 with a surface-to-air missile, but it's more likely that a portable, shoulder-fired missile was used, he said. Those are much harder to detect and reflect how Iran is “weak but still lethal.”

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2026/04/04/us-military-aircraft-hit-iran-war-are-first-shot-down-enemy-fire-over-20-years.html

But that doesn't explain the other plane which went down in the Persian Gulf. If it was shoulder powered, you would think it would be one plane and not two?

But the NY Times says:

A spokesman for a key unit of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps said on Saturday that the country would unveil new air defense systems on the battlefield, according to a statement carried by the semi-official Fars news agency. The statement detailed targets that it said the country’s air defense network had struck on Friday but did not mention the U.S. F-15E fighter jet that Iran downed.

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I really don't know what to believe.

I know Russia has beens supplying Iran.
I was kinda surprised that a fighter was flying over Iran.
Apparently, planes are now flying missions due to the lowering supply of Tomahawk missiles.

We will see what happens next...

AZ8theist

(7,407 posts)
14. OF COURSE he's lying. He's a pathological liar.
Sat Apr 4, 2026, 11:08 PM
19 hrs ago

But he's also the dumbest motherfucker in American history.

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