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RetroGamer1971

(177 posts)
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 02:07 PM Jan 2013

Bob Schieffer Grills John McCain: Why Is The GOP ‘Against Every Single Person’ Obama Nominates?

Source: www.mediaite.com

Face The Nation host Bob Schieffer grilled Republican Senator John McCain Sunday on why the GOP seems “to be against every single person” that President Obama has nominated to his cabinet. Schieffer said he “couldn’t remember a time” when the opposing party has had a problem with each of the president’s nominations. “It’s usually been the rule if the president is going to be in charge of the government, we have to give him the people he wants to run it,” he added.

McCain noted that Hagel was “a friend” but claimed that usually with this process, “the previous presidents” would “call the other side” when considering a nomination and say “what do you think about it.” He added that it didn’t matter if the presidents were Republican or Democrat, it had often been done before. “There’s been none of that with this administration,” he said.

Read more: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bob-schieffer-grills-john-mccain-why-is-the-gop-against-every-single-person-obama-nominates/



So McCain is complaining that the administration in being inflexible. They really seem to live in their own little reality bubble do they not? Or is it only okay to obstruct EVERYTHING if the president is a democrat? The game has truly changed.
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Bob Schieffer Grills John McCain: Why Is The GOP ‘Against Every Single Person’ Obama Nominates? (Original Post) RetroGamer1971 Jan 2013 OP
It's simple..McCain is still bitter over 2008 SummerSnow Jan 2013 #1
I will agree, but.... Plucketeer Jan 2013 #3
Then Obama should tell them to breathe. alfredo Jan 2013 #7
Or cartach Jan 2013 #75
I just wanted to see how long they can hold their breath. alfredo Jan 2013 #77
They would find fault with Jesus and Mother Theresa if Obama selected them. appleannie1 Jan 2013 #2
Especially since Jesus gave away free health care... CBHagman Jan 2013 #38
He also hung out with prostitutes and had questionable ties to people in the middle east. JoePhilly Jan 2013 #61
He also... DissidentVoice Jan 2013 #90
Jesus was born in a foreign country. NOLALady Jan 2013 #107
nominations oldandhappy Jan 2013 #4
Personally, I'm sorry I missed this "grilling"! I can't imagine LibGranny Jan 2013 #5
I think he was "grilling" a "hot dog". MissMarple Jan 2013 #46
TouFREAKIKN'Che! Cha Jan 2013 #55
He was definitely grilling a weiner, no doubt. MessiahRp Jan 2013 #106
I was just about to type that... 4_TN_TITANS Jan 2013 #114
"Calling the other side" or 'floating' potential candidate? louis-t Jan 2013 #6
McCains bitter, he is excluded from the Admin. inner group. Even though he works at the WH, he is Sunlei Jan 2013 #47
McCain doesn't work in the White House. amandabeech Jan 2013 #64
He's in the current group that could spend more time with the President. Sunlei Jan 2013 #73
Look how well this worked out for the GOP last time! sheshe2 Jan 2013 #71
all of the above, plus the following: Volaris Jan 2013 #8
There you go -- bingo! pacalo Jan 2013 #89
Oh, bullcrap. GoCubsGo Jan 2013 #9
It's fucking racism, Schieffer. BumRushDaShow Jan 2013 #10
Not all of it. GoCubsGo Jan 2013 #11
Clinton didn't undergo half the bullshit that Obama has endured BumRushDaShow Jan 2013 #22
Clinton got it pretty bad from day one WooWooWoo Jan 2013 #34
Clinton went through the process of nominating multiple people for AG... CBHagman Jan 2013 #39
Yeah, they piled on alright BumRushDaShow Jan 2013 #53
Shameful, to put it mildly. narnian60 Jan 2013 #59
Why are you posting this racist shit here? Are you lost? underthematrix Jan 2013 #85
Are YOU lost? BumRushDaShow Jan 2013 #95
Why are you asking? Read the thread demwing Jan 2013 #97
Those pix make me very glad I never signed up for Facebook NICO9000 Jan 2013 #112
If the Nominees before Reno had just hired LEGAL nannies, no problem happyslug Jan 2013 #83
See "Benghazi" BumRushDaShow Jan 2013 #51
See "Vince Foster Suicide" GoCubsGo Jan 2013 #58
Au contraire shawn703 Jan 2013 #122
Clinton was IMPEACHED over a blow job. GoCubsGo Jan 2013 #37
And we are just starting Obama's 2nd term BumRushDaShow Jan 2013 #48
This shit happened in Clinton's first term, as well. GoCubsGo Jan 2013 #57
If I recall correctly The Wizard Jan 2013 #66
You do not recall correctly. onenote Jan 2013 #118
Remember the recent colombian hooker trouble? I think that was the same kind of rethug 'trap' Sunlei Jan 2013 #56
It's happened every time we've had a Democratic President DissidentVoice Jan 2013 #91
No it isn't Doctor_J Jan 2013 #67
Right BumRushDaShow Jan 2013 #70
hmmm . . . underthematrix Jan 2013 #86
You need to go back and read the thread again. n/t BumRushDaShow Jan 2013 #96
Hillary was accused of decorating the Whitehouse Christmas tree with condoms, when NCarolinawoman Jan 2013 #105
And for murdering Vince Foster because they were having an affair Boomerproud Jan 2013 #117
What??? Condoms??? No words. narnian60 Jan 2013 #119
The "previous presidents" were ALL from the "good ole boys network"! malibea Jan 2013 #12
Could it be that the GOP is in open rebellion against the elected government? bluedigger Jan 2013 #13
So McCain Has An Ego Problem DallasNE Jan 2013 #14
Then they complain about bi-partianship... Historic NY Jan 2013 #15
Did johny mention he was a pow ? russspeakeasy Jan 2013 #16
Technically, no President has to call Congress about a nominee. Jennicut Jan 2013 #17
Never, never! malibea Jan 2013 #62
WHY heather blossom Jan 2013 #18
Because he appeals to their advertisers? SomeGuyInEagan Jan 2013 #104
Previous presidents would call on the other side obama2terms Jan 2013 #19
Analyze what John2 Jan 2013 #20
Or Republican Presidents? malibea Jan 2013 #63
simple, the GOP don't want to help America, only hinder the Black President samsingh Jan 2013 #21
McCain wants to wreck a few nominations just to prove he can wreck something other than an airplane. 11 Bravo Jan 2013 #23
Heh! GoCubsGo Jan 2013 #74
He wrecked an aircraft carrier, too. nt awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #76
McNasty also blacked out southern Spain Rain Mcloud Jan 2013 #93
One more time Rain Mcloud Jan 2013 #94
The game has truly changed. They've treated us like we are "enemies" for so long that they have gtar100 Jan 2013 #24
what you said! every word! BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #79
I watched FTN and do not remember a grilling. More like a couple of softball questions. Mass Jan 2013 #25
what a fucking lie Botany Jan 2013 #26
exactly! mark eagledove Jan 2013 #29
"Straight DoubleTalk"from the"Straight-Jacket Express"This guy is an unprincipled gasbag!My friends. The Wielding Truth Jan 2013 #87
really don't see this as racism but like Lincoln said... mark eagledove Jan 2013 #27
presidenting while black. PWB pansypoo53219 Jan 2013 #28
Yes I so remember when W. Bush consulted the Democrats about nominating Ashcroft for AG. Like NOT. Zen Democrat Jan 2013 #30
Or Rumsfeld, or Bolton or LiberalLovinLug Jan 2013 #35
+100 TeamPooka Jan 2013 #36
Spoiled gussmith Jan 2013 #31
No Sen McGrumpy, the Prez does NOT need advance permission from you! vlyons Jan 2013 #32
The "loyal opposition" ain't loyal. Scuba Jan 2013 #33
It's because they are the party of complete assholes Zorro Jan 2013 #40
Why is McCain on TV every Sunday ? jaysunb Jan 2013 #41
It's pretty bad when who have to turn to a comedy channel to get real news. n/t Ligyron Jan 2013 #42
McCain the jerk knows he's not nominated. Pres. O said last week."no peacocks, no jerks, no whiners" Sunlei Jan 2013 #43
They seem to think that "only if Obama.............." Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2013 #44
Senile old meatsack libodem Jan 2013 #45
I believe EVERY single Democrat - including Lieberman - filibustered karynnj Jan 2013 #49
Why didn't he just ask, "Is it REALLY because of the Black President... VPStoltz Jan 2013 #50
"It's very simple Bob.... NYtoBush-Drop Dead Jan 2013 #52
Good. And, Social Media should be grilling Corporate Sunday Gasbag Cha Jan 2013 #54
The obstructionist party mokawanis Jan 2013 #60
McCain is full of shit (NT) The Wizard Jan 2013 #65
The point IS NOT that McCain would or would not vote for Hagel or other nominees CreekDog Jan 2013 #68
McCain is a lying douche-bag nakocal Jan 2013 #69
One of the largest holes in John McCain's argument is that Hagel's name was out davidpdx Jan 2013 #72
Of course the irony of that is this: McCain's attack on Rice was much softer than Hagel's attack Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #98
They're not against ALL of them... bobclark86 Jan 2013 #78
So is McCain lying or telling the truth?.... ReRe Jan 2013 #80
Haha, I can't imagine "GWB calling the Democrats to prescreen ANYTHING?" DianaForRussFeingold Jan 2013 #84
If Bob had asked me the question I would have told him the truth, because they are assholes. nt cstanleytech Jan 2013 #81
One would think Mcgrumpy would be sick of those sour grapes by now. whoisthatis Jan 2013 #82
He has ABSOLUTELY nothing else to do! malibea Jan 2013 #108
I'd like to propose that during the confirmation hearing, this should be the person McCain sees pacalo Jan 2013 #88
Seriously, can you imagine a CEO being hired to run a company, and then not being spicegal Jan 2013 #92
Pardon me, but I have never heard Bob Schieffer "GRILL anybody. pangaia Jan 2013 #99
Amen. Just another one of thousands of "non-journalists"! LuckyLib Jan 2013 #120
Remember rtracey Jan 2013 #100
Oh I see.. Vietnameravet Jan 2013 #101
I just love the words "who have been just so eager to work together". malibea Jan 2013 #110
I can answer that. It's because they are dicks. n/t Hotler Jan 2013 #102
I'm confused... Lawlbringer Jan 2013 #103
His answer boiled down to "He didn't ask us first." Iggo Jan 2013 #109
And I hope he NEVER does! malibea Jan 2013 #111
Old John Caeser67 Jan 2013 #113
John McCain=The Turd With Legs nikto Jan 2013 #115
It's how they steer the debate nolabels Jan 2013 #116
McLame is a LIAR n2doc Jan 2013 #121
Wouldn't that be "leading from behind"? grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #123
 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
3. I will agree, but....
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 02:24 PM
Jan 2013

there's a whole posse of GOP dolts who follow Nancy Reagan's advice, and just say NO!.

CBHagman

(16,986 posts)
38. Especially since Jesus gave away free health care...
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 04:16 PM
Jan 2013

...and warned you could not serve God and Mammon.

DissidentVoice

(813 posts)
90. He also...
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 03:20 AM
Jan 2013

-Didn't ask for proof of insurance before healing them.

-Warned about mistreating the poor and needy.

-Was not the white, blue-eyed, North European too many painted Him as (He was a Palestinian Jew, after all).

LibGranny

(711 posts)
5. Personally, I'm sorry I missed this "grilling"! I can't imagine
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 02:25 PM
Jan 2013

Bob Shieffer "grilling" anything but a hot dog! Especially not a repugnican!

louis-t

(23,295 posts)
6. "Calling the other side" or 'floating' potential candidate?
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 02:26 PM
Jan 2013

Same thing. Obama 'floated' Susan Rice as a possible, and they crucified her. He 'floated' Hagel and they have not stopped screaming and saying how "disappointed" they are.

"There's been none of that"? Johnny, stop lying.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
47. McCains bitter, he is excluded from the Admin. inner group. Even though he works at the WH, he is
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 04:54 PM
Jan 2013

not trustworthy for the Pres. to discuss the most important things in advance with. McCain would run to his republican groups to help obstruct Obama. President Obama has appointed Republicans and has Republican friends like General Powell, he said they speak frequently. None of those Republicans are jerks like McCain.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
64. McCain doesn't work in the White House.
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 07:29 PM
Jan 2013

He works in Congress which consists of the Capitol and two sets of office buildings, one for the Senate and one for the House.

It is a fairly long walk between the Congressional buildings and the White House, especially in the hot, humid DC summers.

From someone who lives in the DC area and once worked in one of the Congressional buildings and once worked fairly near the White House.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
73. He's in the current group that could spend more time with the President.
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 09:24 PM
Jan 2013

I doubt the president would seek McCain out for any discussion/advice, past what congress needs to know and discuss.

sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
71. Look how well this worked out for the GOP last time!
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 08:54 PM
Jan 2013
The bureau will be in fine hands—if Cordray can win confirmation (see below). But did Obama concede too much by eschewing Warren for the post? It was clear she wanted the position. But Warren knew that she was a lightning rod for the GOP, and that Republican senators would fight her nomination as if the fate of the world depended upon de-Warrenizing the CFPB. In May, 44 senators signed a letter asserting they would block any CFPB director unless the administration would agree to changes that would weaken the independent office. They may well stick to that vow when it comes to Cordray, but he will certainly have an easier go of it than Warren would have. And the bureau, per the law that created it, will not assume key authorities until it has a director. Consequently, avoiding a battle royal over a director, if possible, will yield a real benefit.

Fans of Warren had raised the possibility of a recess appointment for her. In response, congressional Republicans have prevented Congress from officially going into recess—even during scheduled breaks—to block the president from deploying this option. Some bloggers and others have suggested that there is a way the White House still could use a recess appointment for Warren, yet White House lawyers and Warren herself had concluded that while such an action was theoretically possible, it would require an unprecedented maneuver. Within the White House, there wasn't much appetite for fighting over whether a recess appointment might be legal if congressional Republicans didn't convene a recess. Yet if the Republicans do carry out their threat to block any nomination, the White House might eventually have to resort to this course.

For months, Warren has known that it was unlikely that she would be tapped to run the agency she created. But given that some possible appointees floated for the job hardly shared Warren's vision or populist fervor—such as former Rep. Melissa Bean (D-Ill.), a Wall Street favorite—Cordray is a fine consolation prize for Warren, and for consumers. And she herself may end up with her own consolation prize.

SNIP:

At the moment it does appear as if Republican extremists have once again succeeded in defying Obama and have scored a win for Wall Street against the forces of progressive populism. But there may be more to this fight, much more—should Warren decide she'd like a particular job in another branch of the federal government.


The "Republican Obstructionist Party" just lost again. They beat Warren down, and they lost. They just helped build a bigger and better and stonger person. Her name is Elizabeth Warren. My/our Senator from Mass.

They helped build that, God Bless Them! Hell hath no fury...

They created their own Worst Nightmare! Oh yeah, They are going to pay!

Here's to Senator Warren!


http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2011/07/obama-elizabeth-warren-cfpb-cordray-senate

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
8. all of the above, plus the following:
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 02:29 PM
Jan 2013

that whole thing about asking the other side what they think of so-and-so?

Yeah, thats called a CONFIRMATION HEARING, John. Its how we implement the Advise and Consent clause in the Modern Age.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
9. Oh, bullcrap.
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 02:30 PM
Jan 2013

If, indeed, other presidents really called "the other side", as he claims, then why bother having any hearings votes on the nominees? They are already "pre-approved" by that logic. I don't buy that for one nanosecond. And, besides, he and his fellow assholes have long been telling the president what they think, without giving the guy a chance to solicit their opinions. Why should he call you for your opinion, when you are already out there spewing it in front of every reporter or TV network that is willing to give you attention?

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
11. Not all of it.
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 02:35 PM
Jan 2013

They are pretty much this shitty to any Democrat that beats them. See: The Clintons. Granted, they are being extra-shitty this time around, and yes, racism is driving most of that.

BumRushDaShow

(129,101 posts)
22. Clinton didn't undergo half the bullshit that Obama has endured
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 03:27 PM
Jan 2013

considering that ilk like Faux Snooze didn't even exist during Clinton's first term.

With the proliferation of the RW noise machine across the airways during and since Clinton's 2nd term, the RW facist extreme fringe has exploded exponentially, and is magnified beyond any seen in the past. And this avalanche of hate has been heaped upon this current President and his family. And what has made it worse is that the extremists were elected to office.

The one Newt Gingrich or Henry Hyde of the '90s has evolved into a whole circus full of loons in Congress.

WooWooWoo

(454 posts)
34. Clinton got it pretty bad from day one
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 03:52 PM
Jan 2013

actually, from before day one.

At least they haven't accused Obama of murdering anyone, yet.

CBHagman

(16,986 posts)
39. Clinton went through the process of nominating multiple people for AG...
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 04:18 PM
Jan 2013

...before we got to Janet Reno.

And one of the major news magazines ran a cover story called "Just Another Failed President?" by spring of 1993.

No, they piled on Clinton, quite heavily.

BumRushDaShow

(129,101 posts)
95. Are YOU lost?
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 09:05 AM
Jan 2013

And did you miss my initial post in reference to Schieffer's lame question and my pointing out the virulent racism carried out by both elected officials and the media against this President? Citing such (despite others who say the same in this thread) caused the race deniers to surface and require a reminder.

There is no comparison. This President not only has faced the run of the mill crap that previous Democratic Presidents have faced but he has also faced a nasty racist overlay on top of that. Clinton doesn't come close.

NICO9000

(970 posts)
112. Those pix make me very glad I never signed up for Facebook
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 01:21 PM
Jan 2013

Really despicable. I can't believe we're seeing this type of crap still in 2013.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
83. If the Nominees before Reno had just hired LEGAL nannies, no problem
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 11:44 PM
Jan 2013

The problem was all of them hired NOT documented and illegal immigrants to be their children nanny. It was their choice to save some money when they were young and just out of law school, but as Patricia Schroeder said at the time, if you plan to go into politics, including working to be appointed to a Cabinet position, you have to spend the money to be above reproach, i.e. Patricia Schroeder admitted she had the same temptation to hire an illegal immigrant as a nanny, for she would have saved a lot of money, but she had political ambitions and that mean she had to keep herself lilly white.

The problem with Clinton's first choices for Attorney General is both of them had hired illegal aliens as nannys, and such nominees must be as clean as possible and due to who they hired AND how those nannies where paid (And that both nominees had substantial income so such payment was NOT a severe hardship) was the problem. If you go into politics, pay what is needed to stay as clean as possible.

More on Patricia Schroeder
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patricia_Schroeder

More on "Nannygate":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nannygate

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
58. See "Vince Foster Suicide"
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 05:45 PM
Jan 2013

It happened during Clinton's first term: https://www.google.com/search?q=vince+foster+suicide&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US fficial&client=firefox-a

As you cam see. they are still at it with the conspiracy theories TWENTY YEARS LATER.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
37. Clinton was IMPEACHED over a blow job.
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 04:08 PM
Jan 2013

It doesn't get any bullshittier than that. It was an outright witch hunt. The rethugs had the FBI pawing through Hillary's underwear drawer looking for "evidence" of wrong-doing, even though they had absolutely no proof she or her husband did anything wrong. And, it was all driven by most of the same loons in Congress that are causing shit for the Obamas. The same hate was there that is here now. Yeah, Fox News wasn't as prevalent then, but Rush Limbaugh and his talk radio ilk more than made up for it. The airwaves were saturated with that shit. Limbaugh even had his own TV show there for a while.

BumRushDaShow

(129,101 posts)
48. And we are just starting Obama's 2nd term
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 04:59 PM
Jan 2013

And you think they are not going to try to impeach him between now and 2014 since they still control the House?

They have already tried 2 trumped up witch hunts ("Fast and Furious" and "Benghazi&quot and they are wringing their hands in anticipation when it comes time to raise the debt ceiling.

And as FYI, I heard Limpballs' very first show back in 1988 on WABC in NYC and listened to him on and off since. Most of his schtick was black-bashing using parody songs and commercials insulting Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton for those 4 years leading up to when Clinton came into office, and only THEN did he throw the Clinton-Janet Reno-Chelsea bullshit in for good measure. And Monica Lewinsky was Matt Sludge's "introduction to the world" but now he's gone full blown lunatic with the birther crap.

There were no billionaire-funded astroturf tea-crazies with the media shoving microphones and tv cameras in their face during Clinton nor were there any $2 billion dollar election campaign seasons either.

The whole thing got magnified under this President, their supremacist heads continue to explode, and it is a disgrace that we have to sit through it hoping that sanity will finally prevail and normal people with reasonable disagreements, can go about the business of governing.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
57. This shit happened in Clinton's first term, as well.
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 05:42 PM
Jan 2013

"Fast and Furious" and "Benghazi" are child's play compared to what went on with Whitewater. And, that started during his first term They can wring their hands all they want regarding the debt ceiling, as well. They aren't going to get their way.

And, FYI, I am well aware of what Limbaugh spewed in 1988. He, Drudge, and the rest were already "full blown lunatics". See: Vince Foster, Mena Airport, etc. Hell, they tried to blame him for the Ruby Ridge incident, which happened under Poopy Bush. And, yes, there were billionaire-funded crazies going after the Clintons. Does the name Richard Mellon Sciafe ring a bell?

Again, for the upteenth time, I agree that there is an added layer of racism this time around. But, the rest of the assholery was just about as bad for Bill Clinton. Sheesh,

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
66. If I recall correctly
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 08:05 PM
Jan 2013

Congressman Bob Barr of Georgia tried to implement articles of impeachment the day after Clinton's first Inauguration.
We're talking about normal people here. They're treasonous assholes that should be marched into the sea.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
118. You do not recall correctly.
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 05:33 PM
Jan 2013

Bob Barr was a nutjob, without doubt. But to set the historical record straight, he first introduced an impeachment resolution against President Clinton on November 5, 1997 -- ten months after President Clinton's Second Inauguration. It would have been very difficult for Barr to have introduced an impeachment resolution against President Clinton in 1993 since Barr wasn't first elected to Congress until November 1994.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
56. Remember the recent colombian hooker trouble? I think that was the same kind of rethug 'trap'
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 05:11 PM
Jan 2013

We're lucky nothing came of that close to the president. He is not a womaniser and his closest secret service aren't either. Even worse was the security lapse in a foreign country, they sneak in unknown hookers they could have brought anything in.

DissidentVoice

(813 posts)
91. It's happened every time we've had a Democratic President
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 03:31 AM
Jan 2013

The first Democratic President I can remember (though LBJ was POTUS when I was born) was Jimmy Carter, and I was 10 when he was elected. I don't think he got the rash of shit that either Bill Clinton or Barack Obama have gotten from the Republicans.

Of course, he followed an old-style moderate Republican, Jerry Ford. The Republicans also didn't have the media machine (Limbaugh, Hannity, Fux Noise, Coulter, Savage, Levin) that they do now.

Bill Clinton? Almost from the word "go," it was "take this guy and his agenda down." They succeeded on health care, but I have to say that Mr. Clinton rolled over and let them kick him on that one...and then we ended up with the Era of Newt that we have not recovered from yet.

Barack Obama? Really no different from what they did to Mr. Clinton except for the ugly, racial tinges to it. The "birthers" have got to be the worst troglodytes I've yet seen the GOP produce.

During both the Clinton and Obama Administrations these goofy wannabe "militias" raised their ugly head...but they were quite content with Bush II.

It seems to me that ever since 20 January 1981 the far right of the GOP (which is the GOP now) have believed that the Presidency is somehow theirs by divine right...Reagan handed off to Bush I, who was supposed to have two terms (perish the thought that voters in 1992 thought otherwise!!!), hand off to Dan Quayle (that scares the hell out of me to even think of - I grew up in northern Indiana not far from where he was from and remember him as a Senator; I couldn't believe Bush Senior picked him as VP), etc. etc.

When it didn't work out that way, they got real mad, kind of like a two-year-old...and they're still doing it.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
67. No it isn't
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 08:13 PM
Jan 2013

they would be doing the exact same thing to Hillary had she been elected. Just like they did to Bill.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
86. hmmm . . .
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:29 AM
Jan 2013

apparently you have a bad case of hypothalamic melanin deficieny syndrome. Best treatment? synthetic melanin - side effect? atrophy of the racist gene and cultural competency

NCarolinawoman

(2,825 posts)
105. Hillary was accused of decorating the Whitehouse Christmas tree with condoms, when
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:46 PM
Jan 2013

she was First Lady.

Boomerproud

(7,955 posts)
117. And for murdering Vince Foster because they were having an affair
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 04:16 PM
Jan 2013

but, wait a minute, she's secretly a lesbian, no that makes her bi. Whew, glad I figured that one out.

They're throwing everything they can get away with at Obama because he won't give them a silver bullet.

malibea

(179 posts)
12. The "previous presidents" were ALL from the "good ole boys network"!
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 02:37 PM
Jan 2013

Last edited Sun Jan 13, 2013, 07:15 PM - Edit history (1)

All of the "previous presidents" were part of the "good ole boys network"- except this Black one- who is "different" according to some of the first four years of name-calling and RACE-BAITING when alluding to the President.

How dare anyone who LOST, LOST, and LOST big expect to get any consideration for anything. Not that I believe this mccain sack of bullspit anyway- it doesn't matter whom the President selects for nomination. The repugnants will all oppose any one, so wtf!

The President has the right to select anyone HE wants- not who the "good ole boys" want. That seems to defeat the purpose anyway. I don't blame the President for telling mccain and the rest to go to HELL pronto.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
14. So McCain Has An Ego Problem
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 02:41 PM
Jan 2013

That has been on display for a long, long time. Not even a "band of brothers" connection can overcome the huge ego problem. So why do the networks have McCain on every single weekend of the year since he brings nothing positive to the table? It looks like all the networks ever want is bad mouth, bad mouth, bad mouth and McCain offers that up without hesitation.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
17. Technically, no President has to call Congress about a nominee.
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 03:02 PM
Jan 2013

The arrogance and stupidity of Republicans. It never ends.

malibea

(179 posts)
62. Never, never!
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 07:20 PM
Jan 2013

So true, the arrogance and stupidity of republicans-ugh! And yet the arrogant and stupid voters keep voting for them

heather blossom

(174 posts)
18. WHY
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 03:08 PM
Jan 2013

Why is this sorry ass, sore loser on every Sunday talk show every week? How does he have any credibilty left after the last election when he went 180 on his views snd core beliefs just to get the nomination? after all, this is the man that chose Sarah Palin as his running mate!

SomeGuyInEagan

(1,515 posts)
104. Because he appeals to their advertisers?
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:18 PM
Jan 2013

Take a look at who buys the advertising spots for FTM and other Sunday morning talk shows. The audience is not the majority of the people in this country. This stuff is geared toward a very small minority and McCain speaks to/for them (one of many who keep appearing on these shows who are rarely pressed on issues).

It's a bubble.

obama2terms

(563 posts)
19. Previous presidents would call on the other side
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 03:12 PM
Jan 2013

I call bullshit on that one. Who the president wants to nominate to his cabinet is the presidents choice, and I would say the same thing if a republican was in office.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
20. Analyze what
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 03:16 PM
Jan 2013

this guy claims if that was his response and betcha he is a liar. He is claiming Presidents Clinton, Carter, Johnson, Kennedy, Truman, Roosevelt and Wilson called the GOP to get their approvals on cabinet positions. Keep in mind McCain was a POW during Johnson's term. Scheiffer should have went further and told him to name which Democratic Presidents did this.

malibea

(179 posts)
63. Or Republican Presidents?
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 07:24 PM
Jan 2013

I would like to know which Republican Presidents called the GOP? I bet that would be a better answer.

 

Rain Mcloud

(812 posts)
93. McNasty also blacked out southern Spain
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 07:12 AM
Jan 2013

when his rudder sheared a transmission line while buzzing livestock.
Here is a great article from the Rolling Stone about the pretend Maverick:
[link:http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/make-believe-maverick-20081016|

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
24. The game has truly changed. They've treated us like we are "enemies" for so long that they have
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 03:39 PM
Jan 2013

taken on a sense of entitlement to running the government. Their lust for power now supercedes any concern they once had for making this country actually work. It's so blatantly obvious at this point to anyone with a shred of objectivity. But republicans are just blinded by their ideology and cannot see the damage they are doing.

Reallly John McCain? Obama is the one not reaching out? You insult our intelligence with such hypocrisy.

I'm so sick of hearing republican talking points that have no basis in reality getting air time in the news. They've grown so accustomed to not being challenged that they are getting sloppy. Now if we could only get real journalists to cover the news.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
25. I watched FTN and do not remember a grilling. More like a couple of softball questions.
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 03:39 PM
Jan 2013

And no follow up on McCain's answers.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
26. what a fucking lie
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 03:40 PM
Jan 2013

“the previous presidents” would “call the other side” when considering a nomination and say
“what do you think about it.” J. McCain

mark eagledove

(76 posts)
27. really don't see this as racism but like Lincoln said...
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 03:42 PM
Jan 2013

in the Cooper Union speech, they "will rule or ruin". Doesn't mean the neo-confederate Republicans aren't a majority of bigots when I say it isn't about race. Its because Obama, like Clinton, is a democrat. The modern Republican party hates democracy unless it rules in their favor. If they cna't rule, they ruin.

Republicans, putting party over country everytime.

 

gussmith

(280 posts)
31. Spoiled
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 03:49 PM
Jan 2013

McCain is a spoiled brat but no different from the rest of his party. Remember when Newt was miffed over some slight on Air Force One? McCain is swinging in the wind trying to discredit every move Obama makes. Is he against Chuck Hagel or is he against everything Obama? How is that statesmanship or allowing a president to carry out his administration?

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
32. No Sen McGrumpy, the Prez does NOT need advance permission from you!
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 03:50 PM
Jan 2013

The nominees are currently making the senatorial rounds talking and answering questions, prior to the various committees that will hold open and broadcast Q&A sessions prior to a vote. That's plenty of time and opportunity for you and all the other Senators to decide how to vote.

I'm sorry that you're feelings and dignity and sense of self-importance seem to be continually in a state of outrage that you're not POTUS. Actually, you really aren't very important any more. No one really gives a shit what you think about war and foreign policy, because you're an old geezer, whose time and significance are ever so yesterday. Hey Dude, stop being such a poor sport because you know what? Whenever I see your face on TV, I change the channel.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)
44. They seem to think that "only if Obama.............."
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 04:45 PM
Jan 2013

BS! First off, President Obama doesn't need to call them up to get their opinion (read: permission) and second, it wouldn't matter if he did. Just another phony excuse for their obstructionism IMHO. After the past 4 years of dealing with them and trying to work with them, I wouldn't blame him if he doesn't want to talk to any of them again.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
49. I believe EVERY single Democrat - including Lieberman - filibustered
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 04:59 PM
Jan 2013

John Bolton. Kind of means Bush did not consult on him.

VPStoltz

(1,295 posts)
50. Why didn't he just ask, "Is it REALLY because of the Black President...
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 05:00 PM
Jan 2013

that the GOP, led by Southerners mostly, oppose EVERYTHING he proposes?"

NYtoBush-Drop Dead

(490 posts)
52. "It's very simple Bob....
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 05:03 PM
Jan 2013

it's because we the GOP are racist sum bitches and we wont rest until that boy is out of the white house.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
54. Good. And, Social Media should be grilling Corporate Sunday Gasbag
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 05:07 PM
Jan 2013

shows why John McCain is on Every Stupid Episode.

mokawanis

(4,442 posts)
60. The obstructionist party
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 06:10 PM
Jan 2013

The next time we end up with a Repug president they'll be shrieking that the Dems won't conduct themselves in true bi-partisan fashion.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
68. The point IS NOT that McCain would or would not vote for Hagel or other nominees
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 08:21 PM
Jan 2013

it's mainly that they will try to PREVENT A VOTE from happening in the first place!

nakocal

(552 posts)
69. McCain is a lying douche-bag
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 08:36 PM
Jan 2013

NO OTHER President has EVER had to ask for permission to nominate someone to his cabinet. McCain and the rest of the republican senate are just racist, lying douche-bags.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
72. One of the largest holes in John McCain's argument is that Hagel's name was out
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 09:19 PM
Jan 2013

from the beginning along with Susan Rice's name. The Republicans did all they could to swiftboat Rice, then it was pretty obvious it was going to be Hagel.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
98. Of course the irony of that is this: McCain's attack on Rice was much softer than Hagel's attack
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 09:41 AM
Jan 2013

on a Democratic diplomatic nominee when he was in the Senate. Those who criticize McCain for attacking Rice while defending Hagel, just another Republican with a history of such attacks have some contradictory facets to their assertions. McCain was a racist jerk in his attacks, but Hagel was 10X the virulent bigot, using open and clear hate speech against an individual and the entire minority of which the individual is a member.
They both practice the politics of personal destruction.

bobclark86

(1,415 posts)
78. They're not against ALL of them...
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 10:43 PM
Jan 2013

just most of them.

They like Kerry. They love him so much. Why? Oh, because Scott Brown will run again and might have a chance higher than that of your average snowball in Hell.

If Pres. Obama wants slam-dunk appointees, he needs to go for senior Senate Democrats from either red states or places where a Republican JUST lost by a small margin. Reid, Mark Begich, Tim Johnson and maybe Bob Casey are good choices, by the GOP's metric.

But we want GOOD appointees. So let the fighting begin

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
80. So is McCain lying or telling the truth?....
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 11:20 PM
Jan 2013

... is it true that Democratic Presidents call the Republicans to prescreen their nominations? And Vice Versa? "It had often been done." Not always, I guess. When is John McCain going to retire? That's the tragedy of our government. We need term limits. And John McCain is exhibit number one. (Mitch McConnell would be the second exhibit.) And curse the media for continuing to give him credibility. Really, who gives a big shit what that old pasty white man thinks, anyway? And one last thing.......can you imagine GWB calling the Democrats to prescreen ANYTHING?

DianaForRussFeingold

(2,552 posts)
84. Haha, I can't imagine "GWB calling the Democrats to prescreen ANYTHING?"
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:05 AM
Jan 2013

Last edited Mon Jan 14, 2013, 02:00 AM - Edit history (1)


Not at all...but I really wish he would have...

"Bush suggesting his job would be easier if he were a dictator."

malibea

(179 posts)
108. He has ABSOLUTELY nothing else to do!
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:52 PM
Jan 2013

Why would the sob be sick of those sour graps by now? He has absolutely- and I do mean absolutely- nothing else to do! He is like "dead wood", i.e. drifting on an old pond of dirty water somewhere.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
88. I'd like to propose that during the confirmation hearing, this should be the person McCain sees
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 02:37 AM
Jan 2013

in center of the second row when he questions Mr. Hagel on his credentials & sound judgment/mind...








(this lady below...)














Then, have anonymous people planted & scattered throughout the audience holding these poster-sized photos in their laps...







spicegal

(758 posts)
92. Seriously, can you imagine a CEO being hired to run a company, and then not being
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:51 AM
Jan 2013

allowed to hire the people he needs to get the job done, to have to fight through so much BS to get ANYTHING done. The amount of energy alone it takes to deal with the GOP is a sure sign that they suffer from some form of mental illness"

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
100. Remember
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 10:41 AM
Jan 2013

The conformation goes through the Senate. The democrats control the senate. McCain and Graham do not control what is said in the Senate, and basically their votes are not necessary for the Senate to pass all the presidents choices for his cabinet, so McCain and Graham are just mouthing off to attempt to be relevant. Not going to work.......

 

Vietnameravet

(1,085 posts)
101. Oh I see..
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 10:46 AM
Jan 2013

the administration has not reached out to Republicans who have been just so eager to work together..

..McCain is an opportunistic, blowhard of the worst possible sort!

Its absolutely amazing how hate and bigotry can blind people..

malibea

(179 posts)
110. I just love the words "who have been just so eager to work together".
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:59 PM
Jan 2013

I love the way you worded that "who have been just SO EAGER to work together". Yea, now tell me the one about the 3 little pigs! Love it!

Lawlbringer

(550 posts)
103. I'm confused...
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 11:17 AM
Jan 2013
...claimed that usually with this process, “the previous presidents” would “call the other side” when considering a nomination and say “what do you think about it.” ...


I'd see about skipping that process because it's a NOMINATION and not an EDICT. A Nomination is a suggestion for consideration. They are supposed to consider and either vote aye or nay. A phone call would kind of negate the need for open forum, right?

"Hey, what do you think of this person?"

"No."

"Okay, this person or this person?"

"No, and possibly."


Could this conversation be an abridged version of the hearings or the actual freaking phone call? No difference!

Do it in open forum, stop whining because you lost the 2008 election, and let the Government run!

malibea

(179 posts)
111. And I hope he NEVER does!
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 01:06 PM
Jan 2013

I hope the President NEVER asks these arrogant losing bastards about ANYTHING, EVER! Let them win an election and then they can dictate and/or name whomever they wish to. That's how they usually do it- nominating and selecting dumbassed, no-nothing losers! That should do it- real good.

Caeser67

(156 posts)
113. Old John
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 01:44 PM
Jan 2013

Playing "Guess What I Forgot" again. If anyone for one second believes that George W. Bush called the Democrats and told them who he was nominating for a position, then they're just stupid. Harriet Myers anyone?

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
115. John McCain=The Turd With Legs
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 02:40 PM
Jan 2013

It walks! It talks! It stinks!

It's john Mccain--More Republican than human!!

The Flushable Man.


Wiping turd with turd.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
116. It's how they steer the debate
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 03:00 PM
Jan 2013

If they thought it had no influence do you think they would be wasting any time on such?

Another thing it does is give the a lot of politicians on both sides cover for the things that would be radical right wing a decade or so to being applicable in today's political climate. We settle because of the threat we might get worse down the road if we don't settle and agree. The corporations are just practicing divide and conquer using politicians as the conduit

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
121. McLame is a LIAR
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 10:44 PM
Jan 2013

Wish he would be called on it. He needs to be confronted, publicly, with the truth and told that he has squandered whatever honor he had left after 2008.

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