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okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 04:46 PM Jan 2013

Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) criticizes video game violence, says guns are no more dangerous than hammers

Source: Tennessean

Blackburn said on CNN”s “State of the Nation” that she is hearing from “teachers, mental health professionals and doctors” that something needs to be done about the level of violence in video games, specifically referencing the “Call of Duty” shooter games. She noted that the right-wing extremist who killed 77 Norwegians in a shooting and bombing in 2011 had played “Call of Duty” as a training exercise.

(The gunman also testified in court that he played a lot of “World of Warcraft” but added that WoW was “simply a hobby.”)

“I watched some of these last night, in preparation for this segment and, Candy (Crowley), as a mother and a grandmother, I was astounded,” she said, addressing the show’s host.

Blackburn also called for a review of mental health services and psychotropic drugs, while arguing that guns were no more dangerous that hammers, hatchets or cars.

“Let’s put these issues on the table and have a good solid conversation about it.”


Read more: http://blogs.tennessean.com/politics/2013/marsha-blackburn-criticizes-video-game-violence-on-cnn/



Perhaps we should send the soldiers from your district (Ft. Campbell) to Iraq with hammers and hatchets and use that money for mental health services.
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Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) criticizes video game violence, says guns are no more dangerous than hammers (Original Post) okaawhatever Jan 2013 OP
I could argue that Blackburn is no more dumb than a box of hammers KamaAina Jan 2013 #1
Masha doing her best to outdo, out-crazy, out-ludicrous Heron Bachmann? indepat Jan 2013 #14
Palin, Foxx, Bachman, Taitz John2 Jan 2013 #58
+1 valerief Jan 2013 #25
aw, you beat me to it putitinD Jan 2013 #29
Trust me, she makes hammers look like Graduate students. n/t 4_TN_TITANS Jan 2013 #32
Nicely Put. (nt) Paladin Jan 2013 #51
They're everywhere bongbong Jan 2013 #2
She's as DUMB as a hammer ... so she has THAT going for her. JoePhilly Jan 2013 #3
By issues does she mean guns too? upaloopa Jan 2013 #4
Well then let's take away Politicalboi Jan 2013 #5
I hit my finger with a hammer and it is still there. Downwinder Jan 2013 #6
Right wing talking point ..... Botany Jan 2013 #7
arkansas should spend more money on dental care NYtoBush-Drop Dead Jan 2013 #60
Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) criticizes video game violence, says guns are no more dangerous than hammers The CCC Jan 2013 #8
Thought the title said hampsters dipsydoodle Jan 2013 #9
We could test her theory? atreides1 Jan 2013 #10
There is a hammer missing from the box shipped to Tennessee DainBramaged Jan 2013 #11
Snopes on firearms and blunt instruments-Blackburn Lies. catnhatnh Jan 2013 #12
I see how they did it.... robbob Jan 2013 #42
"Hammers" = the new Breitbart meme (links) Redfairen Jan 2013 #13
ROFL: Top 2012 campaign contributors: Bayer, Psychiatric Solutions, Merck, CVS/Caremark okaawhatever Jan 2013 #15
She is such an idiot. City Lights Jan 2013 #16
then why don't these idiots defend their families with spoons, hammers, and cars? frylock Jan 2013 #17
I guess they think that vduhr Jan 2013 #37
Video games are no more dangerous than a RW nut job holding a seat in Congress BlueNoteSpecial Jan 2013 #18
MaDUMB Whackadoodle meet Hammer triplepoint Jan 2013 #19
Video Games are regulated. The ESRB ratings system was set up in 1994, to help parents. RetroGamer1971 Jan 2013 #20
The bag of rocks next to her agrees. nt Javaman Jan 2013 #21
Why then, guns are no more dangerous than baby blankets, or marijuana, or ink pens, or ukuleles, or Ed Suspicious Jan 2013 #22
When Snipers use hammers....... SCVDem Jan 2013 #23
+1 valerief Jan 2013 #26
Marsha showing how safe hammer is.... Evasporque Jan 2013 #24
Hammer or AR-15, take your pick Marsha. Dem2TheCore Jan 2013 #27
Sooooooo many people get hammered to death each year. appleannie1 Jan 2013 #28
And think of all the suicides by hammer! MelungeonWoman Jan 2013 #47
Perhaps SHE was hammered... Ferretherder Jan 2013 #62
OK, quick math quiz: Brigid Jan 2013 #30
...what a stupid fuck. SoapBox Jan 2013 #31
Until Long Bows & Cross Bows were invented "Hammers" were pretty nasty............. kooljerk666 Jan 2013 #34
But now vduhr Jan 2013 #38
if I had my way, NO semi anything with more than 10 shots........... kooljerk666 Jan 2013 #61
Fine, then let NRA members defend themselves & hunt with hammers. (nt) JaneQPublic Jan 2013 #33
Are we going to put it "all" on the table or cstanleytech Jan 2013 #35
I was just on Facebook vduhr Jan 2013 #41
You should look at Blackburn's facebook obama2terms Jan 2013 #54
It is basically true, provided the gun has no bullets in it. n/t hughee99 Jan 2013 #36
How many MurrayDelph Jan 2013 #39
Will this stupid witch just shut up! obama2terms Jan 2013 #40
If guns are no more dangerous than hammers, why are there more deaths from guns than hammers? JDPriestly Jan 2013 #43
This thread needs a theme song. Uncle Joe Jan 2013 #44
Ha ha that's great! n/t okaawhatever Jan 2013 #45
Actually I was thinking more along the lines Greywing Jan 2013 #46
She is sort of correct .... Quasimodem Jan 2013 #48
Chicanery! Rain Mcloud Jan 2013 #49
I just finished playing the campaign of Saints Row the Third. A hammer was about the only thing I... DRoseDARs Jan 2013 #50
Gee, I don't see these pearl clutchers criticize kids playing war outside. Odin2005 Jan 2013 #52
the gun nuts are getting dumber by the day...... bowens43 Jan 2013 #53
I have counted the number of "M" rated video games Hayabusa Jan 2013 #55
since when does a hammer remove part of a penis and a nut? other than simply trying to hammer one. PatrynXX Jan 2013 #56
dumber joelg Jan 2013 #57
Don't mistake being John2 Jan 2013 #59
 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
2. They're everywhere
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 04:49 PM
Jan 2013

I had a Delicate Flower here on DU clompare pool noodles to guns, as far as their ability to kill.

Yes, and he was serious.

Delicate Flowers are unhinged.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
4. By issues does she mean guns too?
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 04:50 PM
Jan 2013

I don't think so. Gunners best arguments involve fear and distractions.
Oh my we are going to lose in 2014 if we talk about gun control and those antidepressants are what's causing the killings.

The CCC

(463 posts)
8. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) criticizes video game violence, says guns are no more dangerous than hammers
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 04:53 PM
Jan 2013

That woman is an idiot. The misuse of any tool can be dangerous. While a hammer can be used as a weapon. A gun can only be used as a weapon. They're not hammers.

robbob

(3,531 posts)
42. I see how they did it....
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 07:32 PM
Jan 2013

If you leave out handguns (which in most inner-city and robbery related violence is probably the weapon used) and focus on "rifles" then maybe those numbers make sense, but according to the FBI over 67% of all homicides are firearm related.

Redfairen

(1,276 posts)
13. "Hammers" = the new Breitbart meme (links)
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 05:04 PM
Jan 2013

Blackburn is picking up on a new talking point. Tex. Rep. Louie Gohmert was selling the same line last week.

http://www.salon.com/2013/01/07/conservatives_demand_hammer_control/

The meme seems to have gotten started with this Breitbart piece from Jan. 3rd. Expect a lot more GOP talk about hammers.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/03/FBI-More-People-Killed-With-Hammers-and-Clubs-Each-Year-Than-With-Rifles

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
15. ROFL: Top 2012 campaign contributors: Bayer, Psychiatric Solutions, Merck, CVS/Caremark
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 05:10 PM
Jan 2013

Bravo Health, Community Health Association, AstraZeneca, Mednax Inc, Blue Cross/Blue Shield, American Hospital Association, Int'l Academy of Compounding Pharmacists, National Healthcare Corporation

frylock

(34,825 posts)
17. then why don't these idiots defend their families with spoons, hammers, and cars?
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 05:13 PM
Jan 2013

we're constantly reminded that these items are every bit as lethal as guns, so why not just use them for home defense?

vduhr

(603 posts)
37. I guess they think that
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 06:57 PM
Jan 2013

spoons, hammers, etc. can be thrown at 6,000 mph from a distance of 1-2 miles. Better yet, can they throw 900 hammers per minute at 6,000+ mph? The problem with their argument is that, including cars, none of those things were designed with killing in mind.

RetroGamer1971

(177 posts)
20. Video Games are regulated. The ESRB ratings system was set up in 1994, to help parents.
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 05:22 PM
Jan 2013

The Entertainment Software Rating Board (ESRB) is the non-profit, self-regulatory body that assigns ratings for video games and apps so parents can make informed choices. The ESRB rating system encompasses guidance about age-appropriateness, content, and interactive elements. As part of its self-regulatory role for the video game industry, the ESRB also enforces industry-adopted advertising guidelines and helps ensure responsible web and mobile privacy practices among companies participating in its Privacy Online program. ESRB was established in 1994 by the Entertainment Software Association (ESA).

Does the ESRB have any restrictions on how a game can be marketed?
Publishers of packaged or boxed games carrying an ESRB rating are contractually bound to follow the industry-adopted Principles and Guidelines for Responsible Advertising Practices, along with numerous additional requirements addressing how rating information must be displayed on game packaging and in advertising and certain restrictions on where ads for Mature-rated games may appear. The ESRB's Advertising Review Council (ARC) diligently monitors industry compliance, and in the event that a game publisher is found to have inappropriately labeled or advertised a product, the ESRB is empowered to compel corrective actions and impose a wide range of sanctions, including monetary fines.

Similarly, publishers of digitally delivered games and apps are strongly encouraged to provide consumers with clear and prominent disclosure of ESRB rating information as well as abide by the various advertising and marketing guidelines to which publishers adhere.

How can I find and use the ratings to determine if a game is right for my family?
The ESRB ratings were developed to serve as a guide to help consumers make informed decisions about which games might be appropriate for their children and family. Packaged or boxed games display an ESRB Rating Category on the front of the box and may also present Content Descriptors on the back. Digitally delivered games, such as those that are downloaded directly to a game system or mobile device, will typically present a game's ESRB rating prior to download. Regardless of the type of product or how it is accessed, complete rating information for all ESRB-rated products is available by searching on our website.


http://www.esrb.org/ratings/faq.jsp#1

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
22. Why then, guns are no more dangerous than baby blankets, or marijuana, or ink pens, or ukuleles, or
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 05:32 PM
Jan 2013

broken ladders, or black tar heroin, or nuclear weapons!

Get real. There are a couple things on that list I'm sure she would deem righteous to regulate. Each an inanimate object no more or less dangerous than another.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
23. When Snipers use hammers.......
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 05:32 PM
Jan 2013

Let's not forget the Hamilton/Burr duel where they threw hammers at each other.

What an idiot!

Dem2TheCore

(220 posts)
27. Hammer or AR-15, take your pick Marsha.
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 05:43 PM
Jan 2013

Here are your options Marsha:

a) Stand 20 yards in front of me and let me throw a hammer at you, or

b) Stand 20 yards in front of me and let me shoot you with an AR-15.

Still think hammers and AR-15s are the same?

Ferretherder

(1,446 posts)
62. Perhaps SHE was hammered...
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:24 AM
Jan 2013

...during that interview.

Nope. Stone cold sober and dumb as a dead 'diller on the side of the road with a beer can in its claws.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
30. OK, quick math quiz:
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 05:45 PM
Jan 2013

How many people could I kill in one minute with the standard claw hammer I have in my condo? Now, how many could I kill if I went out and bought a military-grade assault rifle?

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
31. ...what a stupid fuck.
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 05:59 PM
Jan 2013

Sheesh...what a waste of taxpayer money, she and the other PukeBaggers are.

There should be a law, against this type of waste.

 

kooljerk666

(776 posts)
34. Until Long Bows & Cross Bows were invented "Hammers" were pretty nasty.............
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 06:26 PM
Jan 2013
http://www.bytheswordinc.com/c-291-war-hammers.aspx

The proliferation of plate armor across Medieval Europe was shadowed by the development of crushing weapons like the war hammer. Since swords were virtually useless against plate armor, mounted knights used short hammers, axes and maces to defeat an opponent's improved protection.


&size=large

Take about 10 seconds to kill some one with one of these.

vduhr

(603 posts)
38. But now
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 07:08 PM
Jan 2013

count off 10 seconds and tell me how many people can be killed with a gun, especially an assault weapon. Hint: The answer is not 1.

 

kooljerk666

(776 posts)
61. if I had my way, NO semi anything with more than 10 shots...........
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:19 AM
Jan 2013

actually no semi anything. This would be portrayed as extreme.

In the 1970's i was in the NRA and Ayoob Massab (sp) was big time expert in combat hand gunnery. In his books the average gun battle between cops & their foes was 3 shots.

Cops used .357 magnum revolvers, 87% fatal in 1 shot.

In NYC a few months back, 1 guy went into the Empire State Bldg & shot 1 guy, dead. After leaving he was followed by civilians & they pointed him out to cops.

Approx 1/2 doz cops got into a shoot out. They fired approx 160 shots. They hit 9 civilians.

I can shoot better than that & I have not touched a gun in 35 years (air rifles & such do not count).

Turn in all clips & magazines that hold over 10 shots or have your home treated like a marijuana farm.

Cops should not even carry these things & should be able to shoot revolvers accurately or not be issued a gun.

Sorry if I came off pro gun, I sure as hell did not mean to.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
35. Are we going to put it "all" on the table or
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 06:48 PM
Jan 2013

does she mean all as in we are only going talk and blame video games until the heats taken off on any talk to ban certain guns and or hold gun owners more accountable?

vduhr

(603 posts)
41. I was just on Facebook
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 07:24 PM
Jan 2013

having this same discussion with a friend. Everyone that joined the discussion seemed to be using the "mental illness" meme, along with all of the other problems involved, but were unwilling to include guns as part of the problem (except to argue that assault weapons were no different than any other gun - funny that not one of them saw the irony in that argument ).

obama2terms

(563 posts)
54. You should look at Blackburn's facebook
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 10:34 PM
Jan 2013

She's pissed off quite a few people. There's a few nice words here and there but mainly angry messages.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
43. If guns are no more dangerous than hammers, why are there more deaths from guns than hammers?
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 07:54 PM
Jan 2013

Same for knives.

It may be in part because shooting a gun is so much simpler and so much less risky to the shooter than hitting someone with a hammer or attacking them with a knife.

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
50. I just finished playing the campaign of Saints Row the Third. A hammer was about the only thing I...
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 09:32 PM
Jan 2013

...DIDN'T kill people with. Funny, I don't feel like mowing people down with my Explorer. Or beating people senseless with a shark. Or engaging in Lucha Libre (Mexican wrestling). To say nothing of playing the Half-Life series, or the Battlefield series, or Doom, or Wolfenstein 3D, or...

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
52. Gee, I don't see these pearl clutchers criticize kids playing war outside.
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 09:37 PM
Jan 2013

All these anti-video game idiots seem to be Boomers.

Hayabusa

(2,135 posts)
55. I have counted the number of "M" rated video games
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 11:13 PM
Jan 2013

or their equivalent (pre-ESRB) off the top of my head as 36. I'm sure there would be much more if I actually dug through my computer games (man, I need to organize those better). That said, the number of violent crimes that I have committed are 0... If guns, the tools actually used to kill things, are no more as dangerous as hammers, surely a CD, DVD, cartridge or floppy disk (yep, I still have a couple of those.)

Please, give this a rest. People have been trying to pin violent video games to real world violence for over 20 years now and there's never been an outright link established. And what links have been found point more to the mental health side of things.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
56. since when does a hammer remove part of a penis and a nut? other than simply trying to hammer one.
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 11:24 PM
Jan 2013

besides it's easier to take out and idiot with a hammer than a gun

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