Scott Walker: ‘Worth Looking At’ GOP Scheme To Rig Electoral Vote
Source: TPM
IGOR BOBIC 1:43 PM EST, SATURDAY JANUARY 26, 2013
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R-WI) said on Saturday that his state may join an RNC-backed plan currently being contemplated in four other states that voted for President Obama in 2012 to rig blue state electoral votes in favor of future Republican presidential candidates.
"It's an interesting idea," Walker said at the National Review Summit in Washington. "I haven't committed one way or another."
"I think you have to be very careful with changes like that but I think it's worth looking at."
Momentum for the idea seems to be waning, however, with key national Republicans coming out against the scheme on Friday. A bill proposing to allocate electoral votes by congressional district in Virginia, tipping the scale against a Democratic candidate, was effectively killed after two GOP state senators and Gov. Bob McDonnell (R) came out against it.
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sakabatou
(42,152 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)dsc
(52,162 posts)He wants to run for President and it would cost him electoral votes if that happened.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Fat fucken chance.
dsc
(52,162 posts)I am not saying he can or can't but I guarantee you he thinks he can.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)end up actually being helpful to democracy.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)just look!
What the Fuck, America...Wake the Hell UP!
The Dictators will stop at nothing...this is NOT a test, this is NOT a joke.
They want to take total power over YOU.
Faygo Kid
(21,478 posts)Their latest strategy: Rig the elections. The heck with one person-one vote, now it's one district-one vote, and minorities are again relegated to three-fifths of a person status.
This is big trouble for the nation.
Shuhered
(200 posts)This tops all Teabagger sequelae from the election. Can't wait until 2014 elections when Teabaggers are voted out and a few more angry white discriminatory men will have died along with their antiquated hate.
broadcaster75201
(387 posts)Liberals still aren't voting in huge numbers. They will still sit out. Oh, they are voting more than the Conservatives, but still not enough.
AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)Gerrymandering has kept the Rapeuglicans in power in the House, and now they intend to use the same gerrymandering to take the Presidency.
broadcaster75201
(387 posts)I guess the TeaBags HAVE found a way to trigger a Civil War.
Exultant Democracy
(6,594 posts)momentum. 2006 landslide, 2008 landslide, we get into power and triangulate the shit out of everything, 2010 shellacking.
abq e streeter
(7,658 posts)But i do. This will not sit well with a large segment of DU but it's the goddam pathetic truth.
Exultant Democracy
(6,594 posts)I was almost as if they were trying to blow the 2010 election on purpose. Remember it was Rahm that wanted to kill Dean's 50 state plan, the most successful progressive push in recent history.
abq e streeter
(7,658 posts)Been watching, and being appalled by, this spinelessness since Ray-Gun....Dean put a temporary stop to it, so he had to go. I'll never understand it unless it's the most obvious answer of all, that the corporate masters laid down the law.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Because that seems to be exactly what most seems to believe on DU.
Exultant Democracy
(6,594 posts)The president selects the DNC chair, the president's COS was Rahm, Rahm hates Dean it is not a very complicated formula, Dean stepped down at the end of his term because that is how things are done. Almost no one is ever fired in D.C., they just decide to take on other projects or spend more time with their family, are you not aware of that?
Unfortunately for us our president choose some questionable people to listen to, and Rahm is at the top of that list. The 2010 defeat is Rahm's fault more then any individual other then the POTUS who appointed him.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I'm well aware who selects the DNC chair. I just really dislike it when people spread misinformation to blame Obama for something.
AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)We got outspent by 4 to 1 in many critical races.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)10 million voters stayed home in 2000 because ralph said both were the same
we need to outlaw 3rd parties altogether
IMHO we should run a primary system where the top two vote getters are the ONLY ones on general election day. NO ONE ELSE
and the top two can be whomever gets the most votes regardless of party
because all third party people (WITH NO EXCEPTIONS) directly lead the winner to being one or the other of the top two.
So we should ban third party and when more than two run, demand a one on one runoff
both below 50% and above it too, and that being the same day
and do so for Gov/Senate/House
make the voter write who their first and second choice is
LIKE ADULTS
we should not have babies who want to waaa waaa whine protest vote throwing the election to the other side
Top Two only in a general.IMHO
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Dictator Walker sells his soul on e-bay
mokawanis
(4,441 posts)They just want power and will take it any way they can get it. Lies, deceptions, fraud, theft....doesn't matter to them.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Indyfan53
(473 posts)You let this corrupt scumbag stay in power to ruin you state! Get off your asses and vote him and the rest of his henchmen out of office! Flood the polling stations and make your voices heard. Don't let anyone turn you away!
Ellipsis
(9,124 posts)are sitting on thier ass's?
Go bark over at free republic.
judesedit
(4,438 posts)him
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)who is president by popular vote.
The electoral college gives too many votes, too much influence to states like Montana and Wyoming and too little to states like California and New York.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)to get dems to rush and change
if Ryan ran for president and won WI, he would be the loser in this
If Christie was Pres/VP candidate, and won PA, Hillary45 would get more votes
Hillary45 will win five or six red states
Texas will turn blue
Best to leave it and just run a different campaign
at which time a good candidate will still win
constant is not constant as one doesn't only more one thing not all the others.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)The electoral college is based on the total number of senators and representatives from a state to a great extent. California has only two senators. As individual voters, our votes count less in the electoral college than the votes of individuals who happen to reside in Montana. It is extremely unfair.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)when you have a Ralph Nader causing 10 million voters to stay home?
remember if you were into politics in 1999-2000, the common thought was that Bush would win the popular vote and Gore would win the electoral vote, and Bush would use the
illegitimate tag on Gore
It ended up being a major surprise to most that Gore actually won the popular vote and was unexpected.
a direct popular vote would only work IMHO if the same day voters had to pick their 2nd choice if neither candidates got 50%.
Because you can bet a Sheldon Adelson, or the Koch brothers would attempt, in a direct vote race that the winner wins with no run off, MANY other candidates, all republicans at heart
or bribes some (let's say angry democratic person who quits in a huff or loses their seat,
so for the example, let's say Sheldon Adelson told AND THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE,
(we won't use 2000 because well, that indeed is what happened with the ahole Nader)
but let's use 2008, let's say in 2008 Sheldon A. gave sleezeball John Edwards a billion dollars to run independent. Who would say the sleeze wouldn't have jumped at the chance and being that his ploy was turned down to be in the cabinet, exacted his revenge and that would have given McCain say an extra 10% popular vote
THIS IS ONLY A FAKE EXAMPLE. BUT it is politics and it is NOT illegal by any means
(aka-Nader did it and some still idolize the fool).
CAN ONE SAY THAT WOULDN'T THEORETICALLY could not have HAPPENED in 2008?
All it would take is money.
You can NOT bet on baseball and be sure you bet on the winner
(you cannot soft toss a pitch and guarantee a HR, as so many in the HR derby do NOT go out of the ball park).
HOWEVER if you play to have someone lose, you sure as hell can, by having an error, or a wild pitch with the bases loaded after walking three in a row in a tied ballgame.
It is why every democratic voter needs to vote, at any and all costs and time.
and we need to play the game one dollar richer, and one ounce of dirt dirtier than they do.
because a winner does what a loser won't- which is get seated.
It is far too easy to bribe one candidate, than it is to mess with the electoral college as long as all the voters possible vote.
(btw, on the other side, Ross Perot did just that with his personal grudge against 41.
He was not against the Bush message, as he supported W and will support Jeb against HIllary45.
It was personal against 41 only.
He ran to make sure 41 lost.
Do you think a meglamaniac billionaire would be scared off by a simple dirty trick?
He did not want to win.
He wanted to stop 41
and he did.
But never should a president be seated with just 41 percent, even if we want that candidate.
think about it.
they should outlaw third party runs before thinking of going to a popular vote without same day runoff(I personally would outlaw them anyhow, have a direct primary, top two over 50% after a few rounds, run in the general election, no matter the party)
(AND NOT a later run off, it has to be same day, you can't run a second campaign quickly.)
Tagish_Charlie
(85 posts)the nerferious plan to pervert the electoral process to favor Teabaggers has given him a hardon a cat can't scratch