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kpete

(71,997 posts)
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:38 PM Feb 2013

BREAKING UPDATE: Accused Cop Killer, Chris Dorner, Found Dead in Burned Cabin

Last edited Tue Feb 12, 2013, 11:18 PM - Edit history (12)

Source: KTLA

Body believed to be fugitive ex-L.A. cop recovered
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57569072/flames-engulf-cabin-where-ex-l.a-cop-believed-holed-up/


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BREAKING: Accused Cop Killer, Chris Dorner, Found Dead in Burned Cabin

BIG BEAR — An LAPD official has confirmed to KTLA that a body found inside a burned out cabin in Big Bear is believed to be that of accused cop-killer Christopher Dorner.

Authorities are in the process of removing his body from the cabin.

The fugitive former officer had been holed up in the cabin for several hours on Tuesday afternoon.

At one point, police broke windows, pumped in tear gas and blasted a loud speaker urging Dorner to surrender.



Read more: http://ktla.com/2013/02/12/cabin-dormer-believed-to-be-holed-up-in-on-fire/#ixzz2KkEzGdPk



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Sources at LAPD via KTLA, Los Angeles, at 6:49 p.m. Pacific Standard Time; Christopher Dorner is dead. God have mercy on his wretched soul; and God take care of the people he killed and God take care of the survivors who grieve their lost ones.

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The six-day manhunt for accused killer Christopher Dorner took a dramatic turn Tuesday when the suspect got into a shootout with authorities, according to law enforcement sources.

Details were sketchy. But the sources said that Dorner burglarized a home in the Big Bear area, tied up a couple and stole their car.

During the gun battle, two police officers were wounded. Their conditions were unknown. A state Fish and Game official was also shot at, sources said.

Four local schools are on lockdown.





Read more: http://ktla.com/2013/02/12/cabin-dormer-believed-to-be-holed-up-in-on-fire/#axzz2KkEmrADQ



UPDATES:
http://ktla.com/live/#axzz2Kj2zjdVm



A local CBS reporter was caught in a huge police firefight with suspected killer Christopher Dorner on Tuesday.

Dorner, who is alleged to have killed at least three people, is in Big Bear, California, on the run from authorities.

Carter Evans, who works for KCBS and KCAL was with police, and the station stayed with him on the phone as he reported the situation. Gunfire could be heard throughout.

"It certainly sounds like a lot of gunfire," the station's anchor said to Evans
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/12/carter-evans-christopher-dorner-ktla_n_2672431.html?utm_hp_ref=media

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LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- Two law enforcement officers are being airlifted to a local hospital with unknown injuries after a shootout in the Big Bear area with a suspect believed to be Chris Dorner.

Authorities say deputies working the Big Bear area in their search for Dorner responded to the 1200 block of Club View Drive for a reported stolen vehicle by a man matching Dorner's description. Deputies immediately began a search of the area.

The vehicle was located at Highway 38 and Glass Road a short time later. The suspect fled into the forest on foot and barricaded himself inside a cabin. There was an exchange of gunfire between law enforcement and the suspect, wounding two officers.

It is believed the suspect has barricaded himself in a cabin. Expect closures on highways 38, 330 and 18 due to the investigation.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=8989757


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Dorner surrounded


'Hundreds of rounds' fired during gun battle
By Los Angeles Times Staff | 2:32 p.m.
Dozens of law enforcement officers were racing to the last reported scene of a gun battle near the 7 Oaks cabin area near Big Bear. 'There are deputies everywhere,' a source says.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/dorner-shootout-big-bear-hundreds-shots.html


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Press Conference

call of stolen vehicle reported
fit Dorner's description

vehicle located at HWY 38
Chased Dorner on foot
shortly thereafter he barricaded himself in cabin

gun fire (LOTS)



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[div class="excerpt"]UPDATE — Here's the official statement from the San Bernadino sheriffs:

On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 at 12:22 p.m, deputies working the Big Bear area search for Christopher Dorner responded to the 1200 block of Club View Dr. for a reported stolen vehicle. The reporting party said the suspect took their vehicle and described the suspect as looking very similar to Dorner. Deputies immediately began a search on the ground and from the air for the vehicle.

The vehicle was located at Hwy. 38 and Glass Rd. The suspect fled into the forest and barricaded himself inside a cabin. A short time later there was an exchange of gunfire between law enforcement and the suspect. Sheriff’s SWAT is onscene.

Two law enforcement officers are being airlifted to a local hospital with unknown injuries.
http://www.heavy.com/news/2013/02/breaking-christopher-dorner-in-shootout-with-cops-in-big-bear/

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LAPD calls on Dorner to give up. "It's time to end the bloodshed." on.cnn.com/Xx0wob

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[div class="excerpt"]Updated at 6:46 p.m. ET One of the law enforcement officers hurt in today's shootout has died, CNN affiliates and the Los Angeles Times have reported. We're awaiting a news conference at the medical center.
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2013/02/12/police-checking-reports-that-ex-lapd-officer-dorner-sighted/

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[div class="excerpt"]Fugitive ex-cop believed dead, as cabin stronghold goes up in flames

The dramatic manhunt for a fugitive ex-LAPD cop who killed at least four people apparently ended when the cabin he holed up in went up in flames, with ammunition exploding and smoke billowing up into the mountain air.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/02/12/fugitive-ex-cop-exchanges-fire-with-authorities-ap-source-says/#ixzz2Kjilaj4T

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BREAKING UPDATE: Accused Cop Killer, Chris Dorner, Found Dead in Burned Cabin (Original Post) kpete Feb 2013 OP
Oh, I sure hope so. CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2013 #1
Good news. The couple is lucky they weren't killed as it sounds snagglepuss Feb 2013 #2
I'm just curious... SoapBox Feb 2013 #17
Because he didnt kill them roxy1234 Feb 2013 #20
He's deranged because he bitchkitty Feb 2013 #82
Let us hope this man indeed has been caught. Nika Feb 2013 #3
Caught? CNN lol. greyl Feb 2013 #4
I am surprised that he allowed himself to be taken alive. iandhr Feb 2013 #5
He is still on the loose, but I think he will not be taken alive. n/t RebelOne Feb 2013 #15
There was an earlier post that said he was captured iandhr Feb 2013 #16
This is not inaccurate. He has *not* been captured. KeepItReal Feb 2013 #6
sorry, I've asked kpete to edit.. if she doesn't shortly, I'll unlock yours OKNancy Feb 2013 #7
done kpete Feb 2013 #13
Yes it is. ;) edit: Was inacurate, that is. nt greyl Feb 2013 #11
Currently in a stand off, I think -- watching MSNBC gateley Feb 2013 #8
CNN is reporting that he is 'pinned down' Siwsan Feb 2013 #9
The live local feed is showing a cabin where they say he is holed up Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #19
I'm watching on CNN Siwsan Feb 2013 #22
The local feed says that they're in the middle of a firefight with a suspect Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #26
If it's a 5'2" Caucasian female, it's probably him. NV Whino Feb 2013 #10
...I got that. SoapBox Feb 2013 #18
I'm watching CNN - they say he's still not captured. Cooley Hurd Feb 2013 #12
How many more innocent citizens will be in the LAPD's crosshairs? blueclown Feb 2013 #14
...or in Dorner's? brooklynite Feb 2013 #21
Seriously? This whole thing and it's the LAPD you're upset with? (nt) Posteritatis Feb 2013 #23
Who's the criminal in this scenario? blueclown Feb 2013 #27
Right now? The current scenario near Big Bear? There's only one criminal. Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #30
It was a rhetorical question. blueclown Feb 2013 #33
ohh heaven05 Feb 2013 #78
WTF? The police in the area just requested that the news reporters not show aerial coverage.... George II Feb 2013 #57
Well there goes the state of the union split screen alp227 Feb 2013 #74
@BreakingNews: San Bernardino Sheriff's Department confirms suspect barricaded in cabin; SWAT on sce Hissyspit Feb 2013 #24
Good news! Botany Feb 2013 #32
Which SWAT? dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #62
Per NBC4LA the gunfire is continuing. It is not over. avaistheone1 Feb 2013 #25
Police request media leave the immediate area due to the live gunfire. avaistheone1 Feb 2013 #28
Where is the NRA in all this? aggiesal Feb 2013 #29
They will probably say Mr.Bill Feb 2013 #37
But, but, they want to . . . aggiesal Feb 2013 #53
Please to all law enforcement involved in this mess 3 things .... Botany Feb 2013 #31
I don't know that I'd agree with your 3rd request. Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #34
Agreed. If he's killed, it'll just fuel more rumors. He needs to go on trial. Let the court and jury freshwest Feb 2013 #69
Definitely do not agree with your 3rd request. avaistheone1 Feb 2013 #39
Extrajudicial executions are generally considered a human rights violation. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #45
oh please! Botany Feb 2013 #65
SWAT team coming into the area now. Brigid Feb 2013 #35
I saw the little armored Mini-CAT come in being pulled behind an RV. Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #40
Are you watching CNN? Brigid Feb 2013 #42
No, I'm watching the nbclosangeles feed. Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #44
Clear out the media cameras...let the drones zoom in! Roland99 Feb 2013 #54
A couple more hours until nightfall... Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #56
They will burn the cabin. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #70
Right now they're checking every vehicle--at gunpoint--that is driving by on Hwy 38. Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #36
I think he's probably already shot dead Catherine Vincent Feb 2013 #38
So where's all the people who thought Mr.Bill Feb 2013 #41
Give them time. Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #46
drone stonecutter357 Feb 2013 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author Tx4obama Feb 2013 #43
More updates on the link below Tx4obama Feb 2013 #47
Gunbattle in the woods - final movie action scene in progress Baclava Feb 2013 #48
They need to take him out. One way or another. he's a psycho!! darkangel218 Feb 2013 #49
Theyre just saying on CNN there might be hostages held up in that cabin. darkangel218 Feb 2013 #50
News conference coming right up on CNN. Brigid Feb 2013 #52
Per news conference: Not confirmed it is Dorner, but likely it is Dorner in the cabin. avaistheone1 Feb 2013 #55
The area around Big Bear is vast and wild - you could hide an army in some of the aint_no_life_nowhere Feb 2013 #58
great job kpete of keeping this thread updated. OKNancy Feb 2013 #59
Are you watching, 2nd Amendment Tyranny Fighters? maxsolomon Feb 2013 #60
Don't encourage them. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #63
Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #79
Yeah so much for taking on the government. Ganja Ninja Feb 2013 #83
Now CNN is saying that one of the deputies died. Brigid Feb 2013 #61
@CBSLA: #BREAKING: Cabin where #Dorner is believed to be barricaded is fully engulfed in flames Hissyspit Feb 2013 #64
good Botany Feb 2013 #66
Pretty sure he has hostages. (nt) Posteritatis Feb 2013 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author avaistheone1 Feb 2013 #71
No, there are no hostages. San Bernadino Police spokesperson just said there are not currently any avaistheone1 Feb 2013 #72
Ahh; definitely glad my news on that one's out of date. (nt) Posteritatis Feb 2013 #75
Live video with spokesperson reports no known hostages. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #73
Looks like he's toast now. UnrepentantLiberal Feb 2013 #77
He is at 7 Oaks ripcord Feb 2013 #67
Per San Bernadino Police spokesperson the second hospitalized officer is expected to survive. avaistheone1 Feb 2013 #76
KTLA say's police confirm it was Dorner and he's dead. skamaria Feb 2013 #80
How did they confirm it was Dormer? RebelOne Feb 2013 #81
Randi Rhodes called it. I'm hoping this is over Coolest Ranger Feb 2013 #84

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
2. Good news. The couple is lucky they weren't killed as it sounds
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:41 PM
Feb 2013

like Dorner is not just desparate but deranged.

 

roxy1234

(117 posts)
20. Because he didnt kill them
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:09 PM
Feb 2013

But I guess if he did he would still be considered deranged. Anyway, killing or not killing, he is still deranged

bitchkitty

(7,349 posts)
82. He's deranged because he
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 09:06 AM
Feb 2013

reported another cop's kicking a suspect in the face, and for his honesty he was kicked off the force and accused of lying about the cop.

I'm not taking his side, but that was the reason stated in his manifesto - this is where it stems from.

Nika

(546 posts)
3. Let us hope this man indeed has been caught.
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:42 PM
Feb 2013

He is a load of death waiting to happen as long as he is free.

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
16. There was an earlier post that said he was captured
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:00 PM
Feb 2013

Not surprised there is conflicting information.

Siwsan

(26,276 posts)
9. CNN is reporting that he is 'pinned down'
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:48 PM
Feb 2013

And that they don't know in what sense - on the ground? In a house? In an area? It's all pretty much spotty reporting, right now.

I think if he was in actual custody, that would be quickly confirmed.

Common Sense Party

(14,139 posts)
19. The live local feed is showing a cabin where they say he is holed up
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:09 PM
Feb 2013

Took two women hostage? Shot at and wounded a couple officers...

Siwsan

(26,276 posts)
22. I'm watching on CNN
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:14 PM
Feb 2013

The mayor of Big Bear was saying there are likely no buildings where he is. But, I'm hearing and reading that same report about the hostages.

A former FBI assistant director just defined 'pinned down'. He said no matter where Dorner is, pinned down means he's no longer running and he's contained.

Common Sense Party

(14,139 posts)
26. The local feed says that they're in the middle of a firefight with a suspect
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:19 PM
Feb 2013

at the Big Bear cabin right now, have been for about 30 minutes.

But they just have a helicopter shot; can't tell anything.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
12. I'm watching CNN - they say he's still not captured.
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:52 PM
Feb 2013

And the live shot they've shown from the helicopter show cops crouched behind their cars.

I think the AP sent this out too soon...

blueclown

(1,869 posts)
27. Who's the criminal in this scenario?
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:20 PM
Feb 2013

Not much rational thought or actions are expected from Dorner, as he is a fugitive.

Now can we say the same about the LAPD? Targeting a 5'2 woman as resembling Dorner?

blueclown

(1,869 posts)
33. It was a rhetorical question.
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:29 PM
Feb 2013

I would expect a lack of judgment from a fugitive. I do not expect a police organization such as the LAPD to pretend they are playing Call of Duty and take shots at a 5'2 woman that somehow resembles Dorner.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
78. ohh
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 09:41 PM
Feb 2013

dorner such an evil, evil man. That idiot walking around with a weapon strapped to his idiot body in the JCP store in a crowded mall with a magazine with live rounds in it is more dangerous in my book. I'm sorry Dorner really didn't have a chance to give his side. But I knew he would NOT be taken alive. He was, even in custody, much more dangerous to that beck and other corrupt LAPD officials. They wanted him dead. So all you afraid of the crazy black man with a brain and a gun, I have seen what all of you really are about and it is sad. Dorner, RIP.

George II

(67,782 posts)
57. WTF? The police in the area just requested that the news reporters not show aerial coverage....
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:11 PM
Feb 2013

....of the house, and they're not giving details of what they're planning since he could be watching on television.

How long will it be before you start complaining about suppressing free speech and freedom of the press?

I just wonder sometimes about people on this site.

alp227

(32,037 posts)
74. Well there goes the state of the union split screen
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 08:57 PM
Feb 2013

Younger people like me won't have an OJ car chase/NBA Finals moment to see on live tv. But if media blackout helps justice, so be it. TV coverage may enable Dorner to do worse things.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
24. @BreakingNews: San Bernardino Sheriff's Department confirms suspect barricaded in cabin; SWAT on sce
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:17 PM
Feb 2013

@BreakingNews: San Bernardino Sheriff's Department confirms suspect barricaded in cabin; SWAT on scene - statement via @NBCNews; more: http://t.co/YtfHkS3P

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
62. Which SWAT?
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:50 PM
Feb 2013

I am having trouble trying to track the jurisdiction.
If he is in San Bernadino County, the LAPD have no jurisdiction, right?

Mr.Bill

(24,305 posts)
37. They will probably say
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:39 PM
Feb 2013

if those hostages would have had a gun they would have killed him. Because the NRA way is the good guy always wins the gunfight and the mere ownership of a gun guarantees your safety 100%

Botany

(70,524 posts)
31. Please to all law enforcement involved in this mess 3 things ....
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:26 PM
Feb 2013

.... Stay safe, keep the public safe and when you get a chance make sure to
put lots of holes into him.

Common Sense Party

(14,139 posts)
34. I don't know that I'd agree with your 3rd request.
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:37 PM
Feb 2013

I'd prefer they take him alive so he can have his day in court.

But I don't think he's being rational and I expect he'll go out in a hail of bullets.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
69. Agreed. If he's killed, it'll just fuel more rumors. He needs to go on trial. Let the court and jury
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 08:48 PM
Feb 2013
decide if he did as alleged, etc.

However, after today's event, the term 'alleged' doesn't seem as plausible as it did a few days ago. Many in the public and at DU believe he is a hero and an oppressed whistleblower.

I read the manifesto posted here and it doesn't encourge me regarding his status as a whistleblower or champion of the downtrodden. He said he would kill civilians to clear his name. But some folks may claim that's not from him, nothing will change their minds.

I'd really like this to end without any more bloodshed, not civilians, officers or even Dorner. Terrible tragedy for all.

Botany

(70,524 posts)
65. oh please!
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 08:32 PM
Feb 2013

the man killed a 27 year old woman just to show he is nasty ......
this piece of crap is not worth putting 1/100,000 of a chance
of hurting somebody else ..... I hope by now he is DOA.


Brigid

(17,621 posts)
35. SWAT team coming into the area now.
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:39 PM
Feb 2013

With bunker buster equipment. No live pictures on CNN per law enforcement request.

Common Sense Party

(14,139 posts)
40. I saw the little armored Mini-CAT come in being pulled behind an RV.
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:40 PM
Feb 2013

Dorner probably saw it on TV as well.

Common Sense Party

(14,139 posts)
44. No, I'm watching the nbclosangeles feed.
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:47 PM
Feb 2013

Yeah, they were showing an aerial helicopter shot of the cabin, then they pulled away and said law enforcement asked them to pull out so that they wouldn't provide info to Dorner.

So the only thing they have to show is the roadblock on the highway. As soon as they switch to the road, the RV drives by with the armored mini-CAT.

Common Sense Party

(14,139 posts)
36. Right now they're checking every vehicle--at gunpoint--that is driving by on Hwy 38.
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:39 PM
Feb 2013

Strange, as supposedly other deputies are exchanging gunfire with the suspect at a cabin. I don't know how he's in two places at one time.

Catherine Vincent

(34,491 posts)
38. I think he's probably already shot dead
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:40 PM
Feb 2013

They're just waiting to gather all PR reports before they let the media know, imo.

Response to kpete (Original post)

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
48. Gunbattle in the woods - final movie action scene in progress
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:51 PM
Feb 2013

guess he was just another amateur crazed killer - fucked up the boat escape to Mexico, fucked up the escape by truck in the mountains

Now he'll go out in a blaze of bullets - just like the cops wanted.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
58. The area around Big Bear is vast and wild - you could hide an army in some of the
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:14 PM
Feb 2013

forests and canyons. Some of the mountains are over 10,000 feet (12 peaks over 10,000 feet high in those mountains). Years ago my girlfriend and I spent the winter in a remote cabin studying for the California February Bar exam and that area can seem desolate.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
60. Are you watching, 2nd Amendment Tyranny Fighters?
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:45 PM
Feb 2013

because this it what fighting "Tyranny" looks like in modern America. it looks like a standoff where, despite your arsenal & skills, you get killed.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
63. Don't encourage them.
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 08:12 PM
Feb 2013

This fucker is 4:0 so far. If half of one percent of the population of the US did the same thing, we'd run out of cops in 4 hours.
Just don't encourage them please.

Response to maxsolomon (Reply #60)

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
83. Yeah so much for taking on the government.
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 09:08 AM
Feb 2013

No matter how well armed you are you will eventually be out manned and out gunned.

If Saddam Hussein couldn't hold them off I don't know how these yokels think they can.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
64. @CBSLA: #BREAKING: Cabin where #Dorner is believed to be barricaded is fully engulfed in flames
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 08:22 PM
Feb 2013

@CBSNews: RT @CBSLA: #BREAKING: Cabin where #Dorner is believed to be barricaded is fully engulfed in flames. http://t.co/i702TwrU

Response to Posteritatis (Reply #68)

 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
72. No, there are no hostages. San Bernadino Police spokesperson just said there are not currently any
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 08:55 PM
Feb 2013

hostages.

ripcord

(5,438 posts)
67. He is at 7 Oaks
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 08:37 PM
Feb 2013

It is quite a ways down the mountain from Big Bear, it isn't even a community, just a couple of cabins.

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