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Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
Sun Feb 17, 2013, 10:17 PM Feb 2013

Danica Patrick first woman to win pole for Daytona 500

Source: NPR

Racer Danica Patrick today won the pole position for next week's Daytona 500. She is the first woman to achieve the highest starting position for NASCAR's biggest race. She did so with a speed of over 196 mph.

Read more: NPR

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Danica Patrick first woman to win pole for Daytona 500 (Original Post) Eleanors38 Feb 2013 OP
nice job! frylock Feb 2013 #1
K&R BumRushDaShow Feb 2013 #2
I wish she'd stop doing those trashy.... Capt.Rocky300 Feb 2013 #3
And her current pole position just rendered mute that whole sexist argument. cliffordu Feb 2013 #6
No it doesn't........ Capt.Rocky300 Feb 2013 #7
Fabulous. Whatever floats your boat. cliffordu Feb 2013 #13
And that is a large part of what's wrong with this country, pal. Capt.Rocky300 Feb 2013 #16
Then go change it. cliffordu Feb 2013 #19
I'm trying to change it. And, as for the pictures............. Capt.Rocky300 Feb 2013 #40
Just for the record.... theHandpuppet Feb 2013 #38
Go Daddy CEO Hunts And Kills Endangered Elephants. onehandle Feb 2013 #4
Do you have any evidence of that? Sgent Feb 2013 #5
Are you kidding. Search for godaddy and elephant. onehandle Feb 2013 #9
I know he has hunted elephants Sgent Feb 2013 #24
Just because it's legal doesn't make it moral. n/t bitchkitty Feb 2013 #27
I take 2 deer/yr. Good food, good experience, good conservation. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #31
Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #33
There was a time on DU when... Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #34
Maybe you should grab your guns and go to Africa then. n/t bitchkitty Feb 2013 #36
I would if I could afford it. Even hunting "plains" animals is $500+ a day. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #41
You are correct, they require entirely different firearms to hunt snooper2 Feb 2013 #37
I hear precisely the same about canned hunts... LanternWaste Feb 2013 #43
Describe the canned hunt you were on, since I have not been on one. nt Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #44
Harvick Takes Shot At Patrick-Stenhouse Headlines Purveyor Feb 2013 #8
all of the men drivers have poles, time she got one. olddad56 Feb 2013 #10
"strap on"? lol Purveyor Feb 2013 #12
And that my darlings is what happens littlemissmartypants Feb 2013 #11
The guys should have watched Danica's performance jmowreader Feb 2013 #14
A 'tight' car won't hold to the bottom. House of Roberts Feb 2013 #17
I watched them yesterday Mnpaul Feb 2013 #21
I don't prefer it for watching the race. House of Roberts Feb 2013 #22
Indycar is one thing Mnpaul Feb 2013 #23
OK let's tally up. House of Roberts Feb 2013 #26
Jeff Gordon tore up a lot of cars his first year. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #51
Speaking of fast women... SCVDem Feb 2013 #15
Watched NHRA races in Gainesville since late 60s, and women raced then as well. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #32
So no inbred redneck NASCAR references? Earth_First Feb 2013 #18
a DU first! frylock Feb 2013 #20
Go Danika,best of luck jambo101 Feb 2013 #25
MSNBC this AM had this story as part of Entertainment News in the bottom scroll line chelsea0011 Feb 2013 #28
Milka Duno was on the outside pole for the ARCA race on Saturday ... Myrina Feb 2013 #29
She has a long way to go to catch Shirley M. nt Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #35
Yep, and there are several ladies in Nationwide/Trucks/ARCA ... Myrina Feb 2013 #39
Well done to her Franker65 Feb 2013 #30
Woman-hating NASCAR fans are already downplaying this Hugabear Feb 2013 #42
Best way to shut those people up is to win davidn3600 Feb 2013 #46
Yes, because if she only finishes in the Top 10, then she's a failure Hugabear Feb 2013 #47
But she doesnt finish in the top 10 routinely davidn3600 Feb 2013 #48
If she only averages 10th place, HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #52
Well, I see a lotta hate in this post. nt Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #53
I hope she wins. truthisfreedom Feb 2013 #45
Pretty good, 8th place itsrobert Feb 2013 #49
Yes, considering over 25 cars were on the winning lap. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #50

Capt.Rocky300

(1,005 posts)
3. I wish she'd stop doing those trashy....
Sun Feb 17, 2013, 10:41 PM
Feb 2013

go daddy ads. In my opinion, it doesn't help her image and overshadows her skill as a professional race car driver.

Capt.Rocky300

(1,005 posts)
7. No it doesn't........
Sun Feb 17, 2013, 11:46 PM
Feb 2013

My point is, the ads make her look less than professional. In my opinion, it violates a certain decorum she doesn't need to violate. Her accomplishments as a driver stand on their own but the suggestive nature of a girl on girl scene with a female cop does not endure her to me. I don't recall Dario Franchetti needing to do suggestive ads. And if he did, I'd consider that unprofessional as well. Call me old fashioned but there are limits to what I consider professional boundaries.

cliffordu

(30,994 posts)
13. Fabulous. Whatever floats your boat.
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 12:40 AM
Feb 2013

Call her and ask her what she makes for doing the shoots and then as her what THOSE shoots do for the sport.

This is America, pal, everything is for sale.

cliffordu

(30,994 posts)
19. Then go change it.
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:19 AM
Feb 2013

I'd sell nude pictures of me for a thousand each if there was anyone in the universe who'd want to see them.



Except for NYC_SKP, of course.

Capt.Rocky300

(1,005 posts)
40. I'm trying to change it. And, as for the pictures.............
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 09:01 PM
Feb 2013

no thanks, I can't even stand to see myself naked.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
5. Do you have any evidence of that?
Sun Feb 17, 2013, 11:21 PM
Feb 2013

African bush elephants are considered vulnerable -- which easily allows for limited hunting.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
9. Are you kidding. Search for godaddy and elephant.
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 12:10 AM
Feb 2013

It'll come up all over the Internet, including here.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
24. I know he has hunted elephants
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 04:08 AM
Feb 2013

but I've never seen it alleged that he took an endangered species. Not all elephant species are endangered, and limited hunting is allowed.

Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #31)

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
34. There was a time on DU when...
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 12:57 PM
Feb 2013

Punky comments like your's could be successfully alerted; thanks for stinking up the atmosphere.

Please note that some elephants in some areas of Africa are not endangered, and in fact pose dangers to the ecosystem(s) due to localized over-population. Sound familiar?

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
41. I would if I could afford it. Even hunting "plains" animals is $500+ a day.
Tue Feb 19, 2013, 01:29 PM
Feb 2013


Plus air fare & "trophy fees." I'll stick with my Hill Country deer and axis exotics.
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
43. I hear precisely the same about canned hunts...
Tue Feb 19, 2013, 03:16 PM
Feb 2013

"Good food, good experience, good conservation..."

I hear precisely the same about canned hunts... but then again, I do realize that we as humans often rationalize a distinction without a difference

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
8. Harvick Takes Shot At Patrick-Stenhouse Headlines
Sun Feb 17, 2013, 11:46 PM
Feb 2013

Kevin Harvick wasted little time taking a shot at the media Saturday night.

Just minutes after winning the Sprint Unlimited exhibition race, Harvick ripped reporters for making such a big deal out of Danica Patrick's budding romance with fellow Sprint Cup rookie Ricky Stenhouse Jr.

"I think the biggest thing is how are we going to get Danica and Ricky on the front page tomorrow?" Harvick quipped. "I missed all you guys (at Media Day) because you were all busy being TMZ the other day. Now, you all have to talk to me and I can be a complete (jerk)."

No doubt, Patrick and Stenhouse shared the spotlight at Media Day and surely will garner plenty of attention during Speedweeks.

To be fair, though, both have been open and eager to talk about their dating life.

But not everyone believes their relationship should dominate headlines.

MORE...

http://missoulian.com/sports/motor-sports/harvick-takes-shot-at-patrick-stenhouse-headlines/article_1bbb2398-2094-59cb-8884-ddde66452ed9.html

IMO, Nascar 'engineered' this one just to provide some drama and perhaps fill a few more vacant seats that they have been unable to fill the last few years.

littlemissmartypants

(22,680 posts)
11. And that my darlings is what happens
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 12:17 AM
Feb 2013

when you lose weight (divorce) and don't have to call "daddy" it is just vroooooooom vrooooooooom, GO!
DANICA! I will be watching that race. I have admired her for a while. I am sure she will do well.
Thanks for posting .

Love, Peace and Shelter. lmsp

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
14. The guys should have watched Danica's performance
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:08 AM
Feb 2013

She glued the thing to the bottom of the racetrack all the way around. Most drivers go wide in the turns, but Danica didn't.

This also makes me think she likes an understeering, or "tight" racecar; a "loose" or oversteering racecar won't do what she did.

What this pole really gains her, besides an instant trip to next year's Sprint Unlimited race for pole winners from this season (formerly the Budweiser Shootout, and before that the Busch Clash), is first choice of pit stall - which has won plenty of races.

House of Roberts

(5,174 posts)
17. A 'tight' car won't hold to the bottom.
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:47 AM
Feb 2013

It 'pushes' away from the bottom because it won't turn into the corner.

Watching her in car camera and listening to her during races last year, her main problem is when she loses the front downforce closely following another car. She doesn't like the car moving toward the wall. She runs better low even when the faster drivers are running high. That was with the Nationwide car, mostly.

The new Gen Six car makes 'bump drafting' difficult, and less effective, which will help her Thursday and Sunday. Don't forget she drives in Saturday's Nationwide race too. That's 950 miles in four days, which she did most of last year.

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
21. I watched them yesterday
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:47 AM
Feb 2013

Fox's new gyrocam is something else. It remains straight up and down regardless of car position. You really get to see the steep angle of the banking. What remains to be seen is how Danica does when the rest of the cars are on the track. Going fast with one car on the track is relatively easy compared to doing it in a pack of cars doing 190+.

gyrocam in Earnhardt's car at Daytona

House of Roberts

(5,174 posts)
22. I don't prefer it for watching the race.
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 03:05 AM
Feb 2013

It's OK as a novelty to perceive the angle properly, but I hope it isn't meant for the full race in-car video. I don't like the idea of tilting my head for three hours.

She hasn't seemed skittish about racing in the pack so far. If you go back and look at the Indycar races at Texas, they were running 220 side-by-side and nose-to-tail. Texas was one of her best tracks in Indycar. She had a second and a third there.

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
23. Indycar is one thing
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 03:29 AM
Feb 2013

Nascar is a whole different story

Danica has a problem with crashes in Nascar
2012 Daytona 500
2012 Subway 250
2012 Daytona qualifying race
2012 Phoenix
2012 Indy 250
2012 Casino 400
2012 Bristol
2012 Watkins Glen
2012 Richmond

Qualifying speed means nothing if you can't finish the race

House of Roberts

(5,174 posts)
26. OK let's tally up.
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 04:18 AM
Feb 2013

33 Nationwide races - Rookie season
10 Cup races - Pre-rookie season

Total of 43 races with 10 wrecks of which only three were her fault *, and even there exists some grey area.

Daytona Gatorade Duel - Almirola came down into her on the last lap. Feb. 24

Daytona 500 wreck in front of her on lap 2. Caused by Jimmy Johnson. Feb. 27

Subway 250 she was hit from behind checking up for trouble ahead of her. July 6

Those were all restrictor plate races.

*Indy 250 She hit Reed Sorenson from behind and he bounced off the wall into her. He may have brake checked her. July 28

Watkins Glen was not her fault, taken out by Ryan Truex's stupid first lap move. Aug 12

Bristol Regan Smith moved up into her. Aug 25

*Richmond was her fault, she said. Pinched Brad Sweet against outside wall. Sept 7

*Casino 400 was probably her fault. She was retaliating against Landon Cassil and they both spun, but she hit the wall. Oct 21

Phoenix was Jeff Burton's doing, next to last lap. Nov. 11

She didn't do that bad, all things considered.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
51. Jeff Gordon tore up a lot of cars his first year.
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:40 PM
Feb 2013

Its kind of expected from rookies. In IndyCar, Danica was known for taking care of her car, she didn't wreck very often. I would expect the same of her in NASCAR, once she gets more experience.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
15. Speaking of fast women...
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:08 AM
Feb 2013

Courtney Force just won the NHRA Funny Car Winternationals championship.

This is her second win and she is in her second year.

There are lots of women in drag racing and they don't play like TMZ.

chelsea0011

(10,115 posts)
28. MSNBC this AM had this story as part of Entertainment News in the bottom scroll line
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 08:19 AM
Feb 2013

Not Sports where it belongs.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
29. Milka Duno was on the outside pole for the ARCA race on Saturday ...
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 10:37 AM
Feb 2013

.... so, whatever.

I'm going to watch with baited breath whether or not Ms. Patrick is going to choke when the green flag drops and cause another of her many accidents - probably taking out half the field. Only this time she won't have someone else to blame it on (although she'll probably try - oddly enough, whenever she crashes [which is very often] its always the other driver's fault).

I'm a female who grew up with & loves auto racing and think it's far past time women were in the sport, in a serious way. However, I could do without Danica Patrick. All hat & no cattle, as it were.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
39. Yep, and there are several ladies in Nationwide/Trucks/ARCA ...
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:00 PM
Feb 2013

... who have and are 'paying their dues' - working their way up the ladder the traditional way.

It sorta burns my ass that Patrick, who hasn't done much other than crash and be a snarky celebrity, got a free pass into the pinnacle of the sport basically because of her looks.

Franker65

(299 posts)
30. Well done to her
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 10:45 AM
Feb 2013

I have to admit I find Nascar a bit boring but I'll watch this one with a bit more interest.

Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
42. Woman-hating NASCAR fans are already downplaying this
Tue Feb 19, 2013, 01:40 PM
Feb 2013

All you have to do is read the comments section for any article about Danica winning the pole position. Filled with comments such as "it's no big deal, nobody cares who gets the pole position" or "lots of nobodies have done that".

Yes, there IS still a large segment of NASCAR fans that are still sexist and bigoted. You'll see plenty of Confederate flags on proud display surrounding many NASCAR events, especially here in the South. For many of them, a woman's place is fetching them another beer. They absolutely cannot stand the notion that a woman - especially a very attractive one - is encroaching on a "man's" sport.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
46. Best way to shut those people up is to win
Tue Feb 19, 2013, 05:14 PM
Feb 2013

She doesn't win.

It's the same grief that Anna Kournikova got. A popular athlete that did lots of modeling shots and marketing her looks, but she never won a major WTA tournament.

Vast majority of the criticism will go away if Danica wins.

Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
47. Yes, because if she only finishes in the Top 10, then she's a failure
Tue Feb 19, 2013, 05:38 PM
Feb 2013

I suppose a woman can only be accepted if she comes in first place. Meanwhile, male drivers are given much more leeway, and are accepted as "good" if they routinely place in the Top 10 or so.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
48. But she doesnt finish in the top 10 routinely
Tue Feb 19, 2013, 06:58 PM
Feb 2013

Male drivers with her stats are not getting any more respect than she is.

Now she does have added pressure mainly because of the media. She's usually the only woman on the track. So the media (and society) ends up putting a spotlight on her. Every time she is out there, everyone's eyes are watching her. And that is what annoys some people. But that's the media doing that.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
52. If she only averages 10th place,
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:51 PM
Feb 2013

She'll be near the top of the point standings. Its a long season....every driver is going to have some wrecks, a blown motor or two, and a few bad days. She probably won't remain top ten in points, or make The Chase. But if she finishes in the top 20 in points, that would be a very strong rookie season.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
50. Yes, considering over 25 cars were on the winning lap.
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:46 AM
Feb 2013

NASCAR's hard-core will better analyze the final laps where Patrick got caught in traffic and fell back from 4th to 8th. Seemed related to who and when broke away from the upper groove to create a "new" train of drafting cars.

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