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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 11:00 AM Feb 2013

GOP Electoral Vote Scheme Still Alive And Kicking In Pennsylvania

Source: TPM

BENJY SARLIN FEBRUARY 18, 2013, 5:46 AM

After debuting with great fanfare, an RNC-backed scheme to rig the electoral college in blue states to favor Republican presidential candidates is looking mostly dead. But, to quote the Princess Bride, “there’s a big difference between mostly dead and all dead.” Enter Pennsylvania, where an electoral vote bill is more than slightly alive.

State Senate president Dominic Pileggi (R) is pushing a plan to change Pennsylvania’s current winner-take-all allocation of the state’s 20 electoral votes to a system that apportions them proportionally by each candidate’s share of the statewide vote. Had it gone into effect before the 2012 election, President Obama would have won just 12 electoral votes to Mitt Romney’s 8. According to a memo Pileggi wrote debuting his new plan, the revamped system “much more accurately reflects the will of the voters in our state.”

Pileggi’s bill is slightly less far-reaching a power grab than bills proposed in states like Virginia that would have divided electoral votes by congressional district, which thanks to gerrymandering strongly favors Republicans even in states Obama won handily. This is by design: Pileggi pitched a congressional district split along the lines of the Virginia bill in 2011 only to face near-unanimous opposition from Republican members of Congress in the state who feared Democrats would pour millions of dollars into winning their individual districts. While Pileggi has shifted on the issue, a pair of Pennsylvania state representatives have also introduced a congressional split version since the election.

But the biggest difference that sets Pennsylvania apart is that each of the top leaders necessary to pass a bill have expressed support for changing its electoral college. Gov. Tom Corbett (R) strongly backed Pileggi’s 2011 effort. So did state House Majority Leader Mike Turzai (R), best known nationally for bragging that voter ID restrictions opposed by civil rights groups would help Romney win the state in 2012. By contrast, similar electoral vote bills elsewhere hit a wall this year after Republican statehouse leaders, key lawmakers, or governors indicated their opposition.

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chuckstevens

(1,201 posts)
1. There's No Need to Fear...
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 11:51 AM
Feb 2013

ERIC HOLDER is Hear! (More like Shoeshine boy!) If it were me, I would be getting my "indignant Bobby Kennedy Justice Department" on and have the Feds climbing all over the Corbet administration to the point that they would be shitting themselves. Be RUTHLESS Dammit! I'm sure there is a lot of dirt, especially with the Penn State scandal. Unfortunately, Eric Holder reminds me of Howard Sprauge from the Andy Griffith Show: Mr. Milk-toast himself!

PS: I don't know why I''m stuck on 1960's reference this morning, but thy just seem to fit. My apologies to the younger DUers.

brooklynite

(94,581 posts)
3. What can Holder do?
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 11:57 AM
Feb 2013

The US Constitution allows States to allocate Electoral votes any way they want to.

modrepub

(3,495 posts)
2. Sure I want fair representation in PA
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 11:56 AM
Feb 2013

1). Abolish the electoral college so the popular vote determines the president. This will also include US territorial votes.

2). The PA congressional delegation should roughly reflect the number of votes cast; no more getting 13 out of 18 congressional seats without receiving at least 50% of the vote.


I'm waiting....

AleksS

(1,665 posts)
4. NUMBER 2 For the win!
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 12:44 PM
Feb 2013

" The PA congressional delegation should roughly reflect the number of votes cast; no more getting 13 out of 18 congressional seats without receiving at least 50% of the vote. "

THIS!

Doesn't the cognitive dissonance make his head hurt when he says the words "reflect the will of the voters of the state" when he's been instrumental in making darn sure the state houses reflect nothing at all like the will of the people of the state?

progree

(10,908 posts)
7. If they had this in place in 2012, Romney would be Prez and we'd have Camelot II with Queen Anne
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 05:27 PM
Feb 2013

If they had this system in Pennsylvania and 6 other blue states (as far as the presidential election) that the Republicans control (the governorship and both legislature houses)



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http://www.freespeech.org/text/rigging-democracy

According to the above article, had such a plan (each congressional district's winner gets that electoral vote and the 2 senatorial electoral votes go to the winner of the most congressional districts) been enacted in 2012 in all seven swing states now under Republican control (the 6 states in the graphic above plus North Carolina), Mitt Romney’s 126-vote defeat in the Electoral College would have been transformed into a 16-vote victory.

(FWIW, North Carolina went for Romney and thus gave him all its electoral votes ... had North Carolina stayed winner-take-all, while the 6 states on the graphic above went to allocation by congressional district, then the electoral margin victory for Mitt Romney would be more than 16 votes).

RedCloud

(9,230 posts)
9. This shit only happens in blue states with red state gov monopoly
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 09:05 PM
Feb 2013

Proof positive rape-publicans cannot be trusted with power.

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