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TomClash

(11,344 posts)
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:28 PM Feb 2013

Assemblyman Defends Wearing Blackface to Party

Source: NY Times

A prominent Brooklyn assemblyman defended himself on Monday after attracting attention for wearing blackface to a party he hosted this weekend to celebrate the Jewish holiday of Purim.

The assemblyman, Dov Hikind, a Democrat who has been a longtime power broker in the Orthodox Jewish community, wore an Afro wig, orange jersey, sunglasses and brown makeup or face paint as part of a costume that Mr. Hikind said represented a “black basketball player.”

“I was just, I think, I was trying to emulate, you know, maybe some of these basketball players,” Mr. Hikind told The New York Observer. “Someone gave me a uniform, someone gave me the hair of the actual, you know, sort of a black basketball player.”

He added, “The fun for me is when people come in and don’t recognize me.”

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/26/nyregion/hikind-defends-wearing-blackface-to-purim-party.html?hp



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Assemblyman Defends Wearing Blackface to Party (Original Post) TomClash Feb 2013 OP
Oh FFS! JustAnotherGen Feb 2013 #1
Racist twit! Just feeds all kinds of hate, WTG! Behind the Aegis Feb 2013 #2
And if someone was mocking a gay jew . . . TomClash Feb 2013 #31
What was said that would indicate I would feel any different? Behind the Aegis Feb 2013 #33
I read your post as sarcasm TomClash Feb 2013 #35
It is indeed "your bad." Behind the Aegis Feb 2013 #36
There is TomClash Feb 2013 #37
See there, we have something in common. I find myself in the same position with yours. Behind the Aegis Feb 2013 #38
Wait a second midwest irish Feb 2013 #49
I made no comment about "them being gay" TomClash Feb 2013 #52
Ok. midwest irish Feb 2013 #53
I'm going to chime in and agree, that was rude of you. Quantess Feb 2013 #50
He was rolling his eyes at Hikind, not at the idea that what Hikind did was offensive. Ken Burch Feb 2013 #40
Thank you. You are correct. Behind the Aegis Feb 2013 #42
Yes I admitted that TomClash Feb 2013 #48
This quote: marmar Feb 2013 #3
So this means, if anybody give Hikind a costume, he'll put it on? Ken Burch Feb 2013 #45
What a moron Andy Stanton Feb 2013 #4
Someday, trying to look like a black man won't be such a terrible thing. nt valerief Feb 2013 #5
This isn't as simple as "trying to look like a black man". Ken Burch Feb 2013 #46
What's a pais? Sorry, I don't get it. nt valerief Feb 2013 #56
The long locks of hair worn in front of the ears by Hasidic men Ken Burch Feb 2013 #60
Ahhhh! And I thought you were going for someone Russian with the fur hats. Ha! Thanks. nt valerief Feb 2013 #61
That's just a stupid thing for him to have done. MADem Feb 2013 #6
He's a Democrat who endorsed Bush, McCain, Romney,... JHB Feb 2013 #9
He's a Democrat like a hog is a kitten! I think his ass needs to be challenged. ASAP. nt MADem Feb 2013 #12
He has been there for decades. They love him in the district and will never loose. hrmjustin Feb 2013 #18
You never know...I'd like to see someone try, anyway! nt MADem Feb 2013 #19
Looks a lot like Boehner's pallor. truthisfreedom Feb 2013 #7
I used to cater seder services at a local synagogue and believe me, I tend to believe at Purim .... marble falls Feb 2013 #8
Then maybe he should make a real apology... JHB Feb 2013 #10
^^^^^THIS^^^^^ n/t HangOnKids Feb 2013 #13
The man's been in New York and Democratic politics for decades. Ken Burch Feb 2013 #41
The last quote enlightenment Feb 2013 #54
Oh it gets better dsc Feb 2013 #11
what ticks me off RILib Feb 2013 #29
Dov Hikind is a former member of Meir Kahane's stormtroopers, the Jewish Defense League Scootaloo Feb 2013 #14
I have met him because his district is not far from mine and i can tell you he has always been a hrmjustin Feb 2013 #17
Well said TomClash Feb 2013 #30
agreed La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2013 #59
I don't know if he's truly a racist in his daily life aint_no_life_nowhere Feb 2013 #15
I have met Dov on many occasions, and I can tell you he is a jerk. hrmjustin Feb 2013 #16
So I'm sure he won't mind sharp_stick Feb 2013 #20
The Orthodox The Wizard Feb 2013 #21
Here in Brooklyn they are dems on the local level, but nationally they are gop. hrmjustin Feb 2013 #23
His "apology" was purely Republican in its delivery. bullwinkle428 Feb 2013 #58
Since He's Jewish Caeser67 Feb 2013 #22
Not by us, obviously Andy Stanton Feb 2013 #28
Your concern is noted. Please feel free to share more of your concerns, and enjoy your stay. nt msanthrope Feb 2013 #44
I don't recognize him as a Dem, that's for sure. crim son Feb 2013 #24
Skillful delivery of bullshit. JHB Feb 2013 #32
What a tone-deaf dumbass. jsr Feb 2013 #25
what a dense, ignorant, fool stillcool Feb 2013 #26
What era does this dingbat live in? muntrv Feb 2013 #27
Aside from the obvious... PABigDaddyDemocrat Feb 2013 #34
Of course, he did nt MrScorpio Feb 2013 #39
Face. Palm. nm Beartracks Feb 2013 #43
Time to rethink The Big Tent ?? blkmusclmachine Feb 2013 #47
New York assemblyman apologizes for blackface party costume Eugene Feb 2013 #51
Have people just not paid attention the last few hundred years? ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2013 #55
What a dumbass! Maybe next year someone should come dressed adigal Feb 2013 #57

Behind the Aegis

(53,959 posts)
36. It is indeed "your bad."
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:23 PM
Feb 2013

What he did was racist and to claim it was all part of a religious party made it more stinging. Maybe there was a reason you read my post as sarcasm.

 

midwest irish

(155 posts)
49. Wait a second
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 08:33 AM
Feb 2013

Last edited Tue Feb 26, 2013, 10:14 AM - Edit history (1)

So you accuse Aegis of defending Jim Crow racism, then you make a comment about him/her being gay. Then, when you find out there was no defense of racism, you call him/her worthless.

You are seriously being a very rude person.

TomClash

(11,344 posts)
52. I made no comment about "them being gay"
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 10:15 AM
Feb 2013

This is just nonsense. I then posted that I misunderstood his prior post and wrote "my bad."

He routinely opposes anything I post, so I thought he was opposing this one too, thinking his post was sarcastic criticism of the article. I responded by asking whether his defense of Hikind's behavior would apply the target were jewish or gay.

You really have no basis for comment. You just decided to engage in an ad hominum attack for no reason. That's pretty rude.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
50. I'm going to chime in and agree, that was rude of you.
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 08:50 AM
Feb 2013

That did not look like sarcasm at all, to me.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
40. He was rolling his eyes at Hikind, not at the idea that what Hikind did was offensive.
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:53 PM
Feb 2013

Aegis and I don't agree on a lot of things, but it's not fair to imply that he'd defend that asshole.

Behind the Aegis

(53,959 posts)
42. Thank you. You are correct.
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:40 PM
Feb 2013

The had a double meaning, because I knew, well, guessed, what is his (Hikind's) response would be, sadly I was correct.

marmar

(77,081 posts)
3. This quote:
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:38 PM
Feb 2013

“I was just, I think, I was trying to emulate, you know, maybe some of these basketball players,” Mr. Hikind told The New York Observer. “Someone gave me a uniform, someone gave me the hair of the actual, you know, sort of a black basketball player.”


Makes him sound like a braindead horse's ass. (Apologies to legitimate horses' asses)



 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
45. So this means, if anybody give Hikind a costume, he'll put it on?
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 02:37 AM
Feb 2013

That presents some interesting possibilities.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
46. This isn't as simple as "trying to look like a black man".
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 02:39 AM
Feb 2013

Imagine Jesse Jackson putting on pais, a fake beard, a dark overcoat and one of those big fur hats, while carrying around big sacks of money-THAT would be the equivalent of what Hikind did here.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
6. That's just a stupid thing for him to have done.
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:43 PM
Feb 2013

Like there have never been any racial tensions in Brooklyn.

What a tone deaf twit.

He could have chosen ANY costume...what made him think that shit was a good idea?

And this dude's a Democrat, too.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
9. He's a Democrat who endorsed Bush, McCain, Romney,...
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:54 PM
Feb 2013

There are just three reasons why he's a Democrat: location, location, location.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
18. He has been there for decades. They love him in the district and will never loose.
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 06:22 PM
Feb 2013

He endorses gopers all the time. He was my grandmothers assemblyman and she refused to vote for him. Party loyalty means something to me.

marble falls

(57,102 posts)
8. I used to cater seder services at a local synagogue and believe me, I tend to believe at Purim ....
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:50 PM
Feb 2013

there was no bad intent in that costume. Not wise, maybe but I think he really didn't understand the full impart of the disguise.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
10. Then maybe he should make a real apology...
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:57 PM
Feb 2013

...not the "sorry if anyone was offended" non-apology he actually gave.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
41. The man's been in New York and Democratic politics for decades.
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:55 PM
Feb 2013

how could he NOT get it that this was a bad thing?

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
54. The last quote
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 10:50 AM
Feb 2013

from the article gives the lie to this being a simple error in judgement. It is a passive-aggressive statement that indicates the assemblyman is fully aware of how offensive his costume might prove to be - and a nasty unwillingness to take responsibility for his actions.




edited to correct spelling

dsc

(52,162 posts)
11. Oh it gets better
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:58 PM
Feb 2013

trust me.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/brooklyn_pol_dov_hikind_wears_blackface_SA7xtS8mV5ejlCYLeWJv0K

“This is political correctness to the absurd. There is not a prejudiced bone in my body.”

Hikind played the PC card for his own benefit, less than two weeks after calling out oddball fashion designer John Galliano and his Hasid-like attire.

“Who is he mocking?” Hikind fumed at Galliano earlier this month. “If it was just anyone else, I wouldn’t know what to say. But considering who this guy is, considering his background and what he’s said in the past, let him explain it to all of us: Are you mocking us?”

end quote

Yep that's right just a few weeks ago he publicly shamed a person for pretty much doing the same thing, only the guy actually didn't he was wearing a fellow designers clothes.

 

RILib

(862 posts)
29. what ticks me off
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 08:29 PM
Feb 2013

about the Galliano situation is that apparently he was being harassed for being gay, and he retaliated with anti-Semitic remarks, but the original harassers got off completely.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
14. Dov Hikind is a former member of Meir Kahane's stormtroopers, the Jewish Defense League
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 06:14 PM
Feb 2013

And called for police profiling of Muslims in New York

Anyone who's surprised by him staggering around in blackface must be unfamiliar with the guy.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
17. I have met him because his district is not far from mine and i can tell you he has always been a
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 06:19 PM
Feb 2013

creep. He always endorses Republicans for national office. He makes me sick because he crosses party lines too much.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
16. I have met Dov on many occasions, and I can tell you he is a jerk.
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 06:18 PM
Feb 2013

Last week he called a designer a schmuck for dressing up as a hasidic Jew and said he was mocking their community and then he pulls this crap. Dov has always been a creep.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
20. So I'm sure he won't mind
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 06:25 PM
Feb 2013

when I go to his Purim party next year dressed up in an SS officers uniform will he.

Fucking fundie nutjob.

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
21. The Orthodox
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 06:26 PM
Feb 2013

are predominantly Republican. They believe in no separation of Church and State and a male dominated culture where women are second class subservient house keepers.

crim son

(27,464 posts)
24. I don't recognize him as a Dem, that's for sure.
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 07:14 PM
Feb 2013

Having said that it seems he is genuinely ignorant of what it means to wear blackface. How is that possible?

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
26. what a dense, ignorant, fool
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 07:34 PM
Feb 2013

It isn't that hard to be respectful to your fellow man, especially if you're getting paid to represent them.

34. Aside from the obvious...
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:18 PM
Feb 2013

...is it impossible to do this anymore...for any reason?

Is there any circumstance where a non-black person may don costume and make-up to look like an African-American without subscribing to negative racist themes and creating this kind of furor?

I am not advocating for any particular side of any potential argument. I am just wondering where the line is...or if there is even a line.

edit=spelling

Eugene

(61,900 posts)
51. New York assemblyman apologizes for blackface party costume
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 09:55 AM
Feb 2013

Source: Reuters

New York assemblyman apologizes for blackface party costume

Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:28am EST

(Reuters) - A state assemblyman apologized on Monday for donning blackface and wearing an Afro wig at a party celebrating the Jewish holiday of Purim, a costume that drew criticism from fellow lawmakers and the Anti-Defamation League bias monitoring group.

Democratic Assemblyman Dov Hikind of New York City, who had earlier defended the costume on his blog, said he did not mean to offend anyone with the outfit, which also included black sunglasses and an orange jersey.

"It was not meant to offend anybody, it was not meant to hurt anybody. I'm sorry that anyone was," Hikind said in an impromptu news conference, a video of which was posted on the New York Post website.

The costume, which he wore at a party at his home on Sunday, had drawn criticism from the Anti Defamation League, which said that he had "showed terrible judgment," according to the New York Times.

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Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/26/us-usa-newyork-assymblyman-idUSBRE91P04Q20130226

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
55. Have people just not paid attention the last few hundred years?
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 11:42 AM
Feb 2013

What on Earth could compel someone to think that this was a good idea? Literally every time someone does this they get shit for it, for good reason.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
57. What a dumbass! Maybe next year someone should come dressed
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:57 PM
Feb 2013

As a Hasidic Jew, when they are not. Fun! No one would recognize me if i did it and wore a long black coat, hair with side curls and a hat! And I am a woman, to make it even more fun! (Snark)

Dope.

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