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Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 01:55 AM Feb 2013

BREAKING: House Republicans Backing Down On Violence Against Women Act

Source: TPM

After nearly a year of resistance that has damaged them politically with women voters, House Republicans have found a clever way to back down on the reauthorization of an expanded Violence Against Women Act, aides confirmed to TPM late Tuesday.

The original plan was for the Republican majority in the House to pass its version of the Violence Against Women Act reauthorization and then go to conference conference committee with the Senate. The Senate has already overwhelmingly passed a more aggressive bill, with protections for LGBT, Native American and undocumented women that have been at the heart of the dispute with House Republicans.

But all that changed Tuesday night. The Rules Committee instead sent the House GOP’s version of the Violence Against Women Act to the floor with a key caveat: if that legislation fails, then the Senate-passed version will get an up-or-down vote.

The big admission implicit in this latest move is that House GOP leaders don’t believe they have the votes to pass their version of the bill but that the Senate version is likely to pass the chamber. So this way they’ll give House conservatives the first bite at the apple as a way of saving face and still resolve an issue that has hurt them politically.

Read more: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/02/house-gop-backs-down-on-violence-against-women-act.php?ref=fpa

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AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
1. So this way... House conservatives the first bite at the.... saving face and still resolve an issue
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 02:04 AM
Feb 2013

Huh.

Is that what they're up to?

Sounds more like yet another symbolic stalling waste of time and money rather than doing anything useful.

DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
3. So, is this an act of sane chicanery...
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 02:20 AM
Feb 2013

...or chicane sanity, on the part of the House Repubs.

Perhaps we'll find out in the cool light of morning. With luck, they'll just surrender and go home.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
5. I don't get why violence against women is different from violence against men.
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 03:08 AM
Feb 2013

I can see why violence against children below a certain age would be punished more harshly, but, child or adult, I don't get the distinction between males and females.

SunSeeker

(51,563 posts)
7. Here on Earth, women are significantly more vulnerable.
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 05:11 AM
Feb 2013

They are generally smaller and weaker than men and have less financial resources. And many men have a nasty habit of raping, beating and/or killing women. I hope you enjoy visiting our planet.

SpartanDem

(4,533 posts)
9. Here is on earth we also believe in equal protection under the law
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 05:36 AM
Feb 2013

which actually the bill does provide. There was nothing wrong with the question.

SunSeeker

(51,563 posts)
10. Then why is there was no ERA?
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:03 AM
Feb 2013

To me the poster's question implied women did not need this protection, that all violence was the same. Hence my response. Women are by far the more frequent victim of domestic violence, and men are much more frequently the perpetrator rather than the victim in these situations. Yes, men suffer from domestic violence too, albeit in much smaller numbers. Thank you for pointing out that VAWA also protects men, equally.

SpartanDem

(4,533 posts)
8. Men are very explicitly covered under the act
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 05:32 AM
Feb 2013

The bill's name is a bit of a misnomer.

Nothing in this title shall be construed to prohibit male victims of domestic violence, dating violence, sexual assault, and stalking from receiving benefits and services under this title."

a2liberal

(1,524 posts)
14. In fact what I heard was
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:28 AM
Feb 2013

and I may be wrong on this, I haven't researched, but I thought I read somewhere that only the better Senate version has that clause... another reason to push for it.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
16. It's not really about punishing anyone more harshly - to my knowledge, this isn't like a hate-crime
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 04:05 AM
Feb 2013

bill. It's simply recognizing that male-on-female violence - which is more common and, on average, more deadly than the reverse - is a distinct social problem worthy of attention.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
11. Thank you for awakening my curiosity; I had to go read up on The Hassert Rule
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:15 AM
Feb 2013

Very interesting story. Particularly surprising that only Republicans have applied it, and that it is considered a polarizing influence that leads to a breakdown of the legislative process.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
15. SHAME on the House Republicans for playing games with the lives of people like Maggie, Memphis,
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:38 AM
Feb 2013

Kayden, and, yes, even Shane.

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