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muriel_volestrangler

(101,320 posts)
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 07:30 AM Feb 2013

Three dead in Swiss factory shooting

Last edited Wed Feb 27, 2013, 03:39 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: BBC

Three people have been killed and seven injured during a shooting at a factory near the Swiss city of Lucerne, police have said.

The killer, a 42-year-old man who had worked at the factory for 10 years, is among the dead.

Shooting broke out in the canteen at the Kronospan wood processing plant in the town of Menznau at around 09:00 (08:00 GMT).

A prosecution spokesperson said the shooting took place over a few minutes.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21601323



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Three dead in Swiss factory shooting (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 OP
But. But, the swiss all have guns, how was this possible? Throckmorton Feb 2013 #1
Exactly! liberal N proud Feb 2013 #2
You may be ignoring the fact dipsydoodle Feb 2013 #3
And being clever, the Swiss never go to war... JoeBlowToo Feb 2013 #4
Since Switzerland is such a hard target to attack, even the Nazis said oh leave them be. Threedifferentones Feb 2013 #5
The mountainous terrain and the fact that damn near everyone is armed Chorophyll Feb 2013 #13
Sent all would be invaders packing since Alexander though. nt One_Life_To_Give Feb 2013 #15
And it has kept them an advanced nation in terms of personal wealth, education, equality CTyankee Feb 2013 #17
Is that why our troops are there One_Life_To_Give Feb 2013 #18
Sad, isn't it? CTyankee Feb 2013 #21
Seriously? I think not. nt Chorophyll Feb 2013 #19
Afghanistan: Most invaded, yet unconquerable One_Life_To_Give Feb 2013 #20
and having the friendly Swiss banks handling your accounts is another minor consideration... CTyankee Feb 2013 #16
The response dipsydoodle Feb 2013 #6
Oh, you mean like all those false comparisons between Sandy Hook and Switzerland? Throckmorton Feb 2013 #10
They are false comparisons. dipsydoodle Feb 2013 #12
Yes, you seem confused RedstDem Feb 2013 #7
lmao iamthebandfanman Feb 2013 #8
I didnt read it that way RedstDem Feb 2013 #9
This from the article. kelliekat44 Feb 2013 #14
If only the guns had guns! valerief Feb 2013 #11

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
3. You may be ignoring the fact
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 07:44 AM
Feb 2013

that following compulsory military service they keep their guns at home. As such Switzerland has always held the record of being second only to the Russians for the speed at which they can mobilize their army.

The US has no such comparison.

Threedifferentones

(1,070 posts)
5. Since Switzerland is such a hard target to attack, even the Nazis said oh leave them be.
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:01 AM
Feb 2013

Certainly the mountainous terrain might be the biggest reason why, but the Swiss readiness to mobilize quickly for defense is probably another.

Chorophyll

(5,179 posts)
13. The mountainous terrain and the fact that damn near everyone is armed
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 12:02 PM
Feb 2013

has not kept invaders out of Afghanistan.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
17. And it has kept them an advanced nation in terms of personal wealth, education, equality
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 12:25 PM
Feb 2013

for women, excellent health care....oh, wait...

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
21. Sad, isn't it?
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 05:04 PM
Feb 2013

The presence of so many guns is the BIG problem there. Chris Hayes had a wonderful segment on his show a few weeks ago and this was the major reason cited for the serious problems in Afghanistan. It was good to hear the voices of people from that region who knew what they were talking about, discussing gun violence that has further wrecked that country. If you can find that segment on his show's website, I recommend it to you. Very enlightening.

Throckmorton

(3,579 posts)
10. Oh, you mean like all those false comparisons between Sandy Hook and Switzerland?
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:32 AM
Feb 2013

Like how the swiss are all armed and things like this don't happen there because everyone is armed?

"Must have the precious"

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
12. They are false comparisons.
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 10:04 AM
Feb 2013

As I pointed out most of Switzerland's guns are in effect state owned. All countries have got their own home grown loonies : its just that the US seems to have a disproportionate number compounded by the ease of private gun ownership.

 

RedstDem

(1,239 posts)
7. Yes, you seem confused
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:04 AM
Feb 2013

they go to work just like everybody else, they don't tote weapons around with them, like a buncha Klansman hillbillies. they don't have crazy NRA douche bags spewing venom.

just because their gun laws differ from ours, and not in a way you approve, you believe your free to mock their tragedies.

ffs grow up.

rest in peace to the Swiss victims of American style gun play

iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
8. lmao
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:18 AM
Feb 2013

they need to grow up ?z
sure sounded like if anyone or anything was being mocked, it was the united states (specifically those who point to the swiss)... not the swiss or the tragedy itself.

kinda stretching on that one, dontcha think?




 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
14. This from the article.
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 12:13 PM
Feb 2013

"Switzerland has one of the highest rates of gun ownership in the world, with an estimated 2.3 million firearms owned by the country's eight million people, but such gun attacks are relatively rare.

All healthy Swiss men aged between 18 and 34 are obliged to do military service and all are issued with assault rifles or pistols which they are supposed to keep at home."

If only they had more guns.

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