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ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:48 AM Feb 2013

John Kerry in Paris

Source: Xinhua, english.news.cn

John Kerry in Paris, Mali operation high on agenda


France's President Francois Hollande (1st R) meets with visiting U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry (2nd R) at the Elysee Presidential Palace in Paris, France, Feb. 27, 2013.

PARIS, Feb. 27 (Xinhua) -- The newly appointed U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Paris on Wednesday for talks with French officials, with Paris-led military operation in Mali expected to top his agenda.

Early in the morning, French President Francois Hollande met the U.S. top diplomat to "talk about the whole range of bilateral and transatlantic relations and the major international issues," the foreign ministry said.

Kerry will have lunch with his French counterpart Laurent Fabius to discuss Paris military operation in Mali "on which (Paris and Washington) are cooperating very closely."

France wants more U.S. and European help, including the U.S. aerial refueling capability for French planes, analysts said. However, the United States was long reluctant to decide any military action in the West African country.



Read more: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2013-02/27/c_132196744.htm



Didn't realize Hollande was so petit. Maybe he can find an old pair of Sarko's elevator shoes?
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I think Kerry is too tall to be Secretary of state! RedstDem Feb 2013 #1
And did you know Kerry speaks FRENCH!! it's an OUTRAGE! CTyankee Feb 2013 #13
apparently they gave him a few French names ucrdem Mar 2013 #19
Imagine that? George Bush couldn't even speak English. David Zephyr Mar 2013 #21
I stole that line from a Steve Martin routine and used it to kid my granddaughter who was CTyankee Mar 2013 #25
LOL! I think his height is perfect, though. Some of that is his gorgeous hair, though. Sigh... freshwest Mar 2013 #22
Didn't realize Hollande was so petit. But John Kerry is also 6'4" Botany Feb 2013 #2
+1,000 freshwest Mar 2013 #23
Secretary Kerry is so knowledgeable bucolic_frolic Feb 2013 #3
Can't hurt that he's fluent in French either. ucrdem Feb 2013 #5
+1 politicasista Feb 2013 #11
Thanks politicasista! ucrdem Mar 2013 #15
De nada politicasista Mar 2013 #20
I look forward to his time as Secretary of State lunatica Feb 2013 #4
He speaks 4 languages, Teresa speaks 5. In earlier days Teresa acted as interpreter for UN. blm Feb 2013 #9
John Kerry's French connection: ucrdem Mar 2013 #18
I like Kerry's tie. Looks sharp. TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #6
You had to go all the way to china to find this story? Renew Deal Feb 2013 #7
France24 had a story with a video ucrdem Mar 2013 #16
Wonder if he saw Mitt on his bicycle with a basket of flowers SummerSnow Feb 2013 #8
Hollande is short, but Kerry is tall. Beacool Feb 2013 #10
interesting story comparing Clinton and Kerry . . . ucrdem Mar 2013 #17
I guess that it will depend on what Obama allows him to do. Beacool Mar 2013 #24
I got tickled reading CRK7376 Feb 2013 #12
Times have sure changed, haven't they? ucrdem Mar 2013 #14
 

RedstDem

(1,239 posts)
1. I think Kerry is too tall to be Secretary of state!
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:54 AM
Feb 2013

he'll be accused by right wingers of bowing to foreign heads of state in 3..2..1..

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
13. And did you know Kerry speaks FRENCH!! it's an OUTRAGE!
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 05:46 PM
Feb 2013

Damn French have a different word for everything...

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
19. apparently they gave him a few French names
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 10:01 PM
Mar 2013

back in the bad old days:

right-wing pundits, radio and TV hosts at the time often mockingly referred to Kerry as “Monsieur Kerry”, “Jean Chéri”, or “Jean-François Kerry”.


And now it's our turn to come up with les noms drôles ...

David Zephyr

(22,785 posts)
21. Imagine that? George Bush couldn't even speak English.
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 11:15 PM
Mar 2013

The French do have a word for everything. How do they do it?

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
25. I stole that line from a Steve Martin routine and used it to kid my granddaughter who was
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 07:26 AM
Mar 2013

complaining about her French vocabulary lessons...

Botany

(70,510 posts)
2. Didn't realize Hollande was so petit. But John Kerry is also 6'4"
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:56 AM
Feb 2013

America missed out in not having him or Al Gore as President instead of that unelected
turd that was bush. BTW in Vietnam Kerry was a awarded 3 purple hearts, a bronze star,
a silver star, and did not lose one man in some of the most hazardous duty in the war.

It is so nice to see him as Sec. of State to keep up the standards set by Hillary Clinton!

bucolic_frolic

(43,173 posts)
3. Secretary Kerry is so knowledgeable
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:59 AM
Feb 2013

He was a solid if somewhat boring presidential candidate, but I think
he will be a marvelous Secretary of State.

For any who have read David McCullough's "John Adams", he may even
fit that mold, always looking at the long term best interests of the nation.

Did I ever say? Some in Congress don't measure up to that standard.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
5. Can't hurt that he's fluent in French either.
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 10:17 AM
Feb 2013

In fact they're probably speaking français in that photo which might explain Hollande's big smile. Hollande admitted to being a little self-conscious about his English skills when he visited the White House last spring and I'm sure SoS Kerry enjoys exercising his French! Found this interesting tidbit:

During the 2004 presidential primaries, Senator John Kerry, a fluent French speaker, dropped a remark to an inquiring journalist for French television. Life on the campaign trail, he said, was “affreux” — that is, “awful” or “dreadful.” Not “terrible,” the obvious word, but “affreux,” a more subtle choice. For the French, selecting the precise word is the equivalent of a firm handshake or a level look in the eyes in the United States. With two simple syllables, Senator Kerry had passed a crucial French character test. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/29/books/29grim.html?_r=0


And I fully agree that he'll be a marvelous Secretary of State.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
15. Thanks politicasista!
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 09:08 PM
Mar 2013

Beautiful tongue and well worth the effort (French that is), and I imagine there are lots of college french teachers where you live who would love to have you in their class. Bonne chance!

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
4. I look forward to his time as Secretary of State
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 10:11 AM
Feb 2013

I think he will be a wonderful Head Diplomat. And he has the added advantage that he speaks many languages and can communicate directly, with misunderstandings due to language barriers kept at a minimum.

blm

(113,063 posts)
9. He speaks 4 languages, Teresa speaks 5. In earlier days Teresa acted as interpreter for UN.
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 11:35 AM
Feb 2013

She is an incredibly gifted intellect who was wrongheadedly attacked by a corporate media eager to stay on the good side of Bush and Rove.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
18. John Kerry's French connection:
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 09:50 PM
Mar 2013
'Monsieur' John Kerry and the French connection - By Jon FROSCH - Latest update: 27/02/2013


Secretary of state nominee John Kerry has strong ties to France, a fact that hindered his 2004 presidential bid. FRANCE 24 takes a closer look at how this “French connection” has been perceived on both sides of the Atlantic.


Reacting to President Barack Obama’s recent nomination of John Kerry as the next US secretary of state, French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius praised his future counterpart’s “personal commitment to Franco-American friendship”.

The comment was a reference to a poorly-kept “secret” that dogged the former Democratic presidential candidate during his bid to unseat then-incumbent George W. Bush in 2004: Kerry has a French connection.

John Kerry was attacked for his French connections during 2004 presidential campaign

The Massachusetts senator attended a Swiss boarding school as a child, learning to speak fluent French –which reportedly worked wonders in courting his wife, Teresa Heinz, whose parents were Portuguese.

He spent summers at his maternal grandparents’ luxurious home in Saint-Briac-sur-Mer, a village in the north-western coastal region of Brittany. And he counts Brice Lalonde, a former French green party leader and an environment minister in the early 1990s, as one of his first cousins (Lalonde did not respond to an interview request for this article).


Kerry’s ties to France are indeed part of the reason that “reactions to his nomination have been extremely positive on both the right and left in France,” according to Nicole Bacharan, a specialist in French-American relations and national fellow at Stanford’s public policy think tank, the Hoover Institution.

“He’s obviously very competent and very knowledgeable about foreign policy,” Bacharan said. “But of course the French like him especially because he knows France well and speaks good French.”

Kerry’s strong relationship with France will likely be an advantage in his future as America's top diplomat, particularly in Europe. “When you’re secretary of state, it’s a good thing to be perceived as worldly and sophisticated,” Bacharan noted.

‘Jean Chéri’

But the politician’s “Frenchness” has not always been an advantage. While running for president in 2004, Kerry was ridiculed by Republicans for his closeness to the country seen as having spurned the US by refusing to participate in the Iraq war –though Kerry himself initially voted in favour of the war.

Donald Evans, a commerce secretary under Bush, quipped that Kerry was “of a different political stripe and looks French”, and then-House majority leader Tom DeLay kicked off several speeches to constituents by saying: “Hi. Or, as John Kerry might say, ‘Bonjour’”.

Meanwhile, right-wing pundits, radio and TV hosts at the time often mockingly referred to Kerry as “Monsieur Kerry”, “Jean Chéri”, or “Jean-François Kerry”.


Mindful that any perceived affection for a nation considered a fair-weather ally could be a major liability, Kerry, for the duration of his campaign, largely avoided any reference to his past in France or his attachment to the country, its language, or culture. It was reported that he stopped conversing with French correspondents in French, something he had done with much-noted pleasure for many months.

Though French-American relations have warmed considerably since 2004, Kerry is likely to keep a relatively low profile when it comes to his Gallic "roots". “I don’t think he’ll flash his French connection other than when he’s in France,” Bacharan predicted. “It’s generally not a good thing for a US politician to flaunt any sort of Frenchness.”

http://www.france24.com/en/20121225-monsieur-john-kerry-french-connection
...................

looks like ‘Jean Chéri’ gets ‘le dernier rire’ . . .

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
16. France24 had a story with a video
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 09:32 PM
Mar 2013

but I can't figure out how to embed their videos. Here's it is with the link I get when I click "share":

Kerry says US seeks faster Syria political transition
Latest update: 27/02/2013


US Secretary of State John Kerry met with French President François Hollande and Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius on Wednesday in Paris. Their talks focused on the crisis in Mali and increasing support for the Syrian opposition.


(...omitting a few paragraphs about French and US support for Syria opposition...)


Kerry, who has deep family ties in France, is in Paris as part of an 11-day trip around Europe and the Middle East that is his first official outing as secretary of state.


http://www.france24.com/en/20130227-kerry-says-us-seeks-faster-syria-political-transition



ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
17. interesting story comparing Clinton and Kerry . . .
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 09:34 PM
Mar 2013

from france24. Short video included at the link:

Can Kerry measure up to 'rock star' Clinton ?
By Jon FROSCH (text) - Latest update: 27/02/2013

There are signs that newly appointed US Secretary of State John Kerry, currently on an 11-day trip through Europe and the Middle East, will take a strikingly different approach to his job than Hillary Clinton. But will Barack Obama let him?


http://www.france24.com/en/20130226-can-kerry-measure-rock-star-clinton


It is a frequently repeated cliché, in Washington and beyond, that newly appointed US Secretary of State John Kerry has big shoes to fill.

But with Kerry currently on the first leg of an 11-day trip around Europe and the Middle East, there are signs that his approach to the job may be markedly different from Hillary Clinton’s widely praised brand of “rock-star diplomacy”.

Whereas Clinton strove to rehabilitate America’s image after eight years under an internationally unpopular President George W. Bush, the new secretary of state is thought to harbour more specific, and perhaps ambitious, objectives.

Whether President Barack Obama, known to be particularly hands-on in shaping foreign policy, will grant him the autonomy to pursue those objectives remains to be seen, political analysts and State Department officials say.

The first hint of the push-pull that may come to define the relationship between Kerry and Obama is the choice of location for Kerry’s first official outing abroad. Though the administration reportedly wanted Kerry to go to Asia, continuing Clinton’s efforts to re-pivot the US foreign policy focus towards China and neighbouring Asian nations, Kerry insisted on an itinerary that reflects his own background and goals. After meetings in London on Monday, Kerry was in Berlin on Tuesday before continuing to France, where he has family ties, Italy, Turkey, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Qatar.

The most anticipated part of Kerry’s European tour will be his visit to Rome, where he is to meet members of the Syrian opposition, along with representatives from other countries that support efforts to topple Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.


He is also expected to hold talks on the face-off with Iran, as well as a new trade agreement with Europe that Obama mentioned in his State of the Union address earlier this month.

Beacool

(30,249 posts)
24. I guess that it will depend on what Obama allows him to do.
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 11:39 PM
Mar 2013

The problem, said the official, who wished to remain anonymous, is that Obama has maintained a firm grip on those areas of foreign policy. “Many of the issues we know [Kerry] to care most about, for example Afghanistan, Pakistan, and the post-Arab-uprising Middle East, have been largely in the preserve of the White House and Department of Defence,” he noted.

Many prominent foreign policy experts doubt that Obama will give Kerry the leeway he may seek. “Obama is the most withholding foreign policy president since Richard Nixon,” wrote Aaron David Miller, former advisor and negotiator for Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, on news site POLITICO this week. “He dominates; he doesn’t delegate.”


CRK7376

(2,199 posts)
12. I got tickled reading
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 05:10 PM
Feb 2013

Drudge today where they reprint a 2004 NYTimes article where the Repubs were bashing Kerry for being too French....Funny, especially since Mitt spent his missionary time in France while Kerry was in Vietnam getting shot at.....Kerry is the perfect guy to follow in Hillary's footsteps. Plus we have another Combat Vet leading the DOD!

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
14. Times have sure changed, haven't they?
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 09:03 PM
Mar 2013

It's a whole new world and it feels great. Such a relief after 8 years of sliding backward at high speed. Kind of makes me wish presidents weren't limited to 2 terms, but then, another 4 years of bush might have finished us off. As it is things are still in bad shape, especially re global warming and the domestic economy, but at least they're on the mend.

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