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Judi Lynn

(160,588 posts)
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 05:35 AM Mar 2013

Abortion debate suppresses pregnant inmate bill in Iowa Senate

Source: Des Moines Register

Abortion debate suppresses pregnant inmate bill in Iowa Senate
The proposal to limit the shackling of expectant mothers is 'basically dead.'
Mar. 22, 2013 11:48 PM,

A legislative proposal to limit the shackling of pregnant inmates is “basically dead” in the Iowa Senate, says Sen. Janet Petersen, the bill’s floor manager.

Petersen, a Des Moines Democrat, says she won’t proceed with Senate File 399 because of an amendment proposed by Sen. Kent Sorenson, a Milo Republican. Sorenson wants to prohibit the use of state money to “perform or facilitate” inmate abortions.

“I would like to make advances on maternal health care for women who are incarcerated,” Petersen said. “But his amendment causes problems getting this legislation passed.”

She acknowledged she doesn’t want to spark a contentious floor debate on the abortion issue. It also appeared Sorenson could have the votes to secure passage of his amendment. Democrats maintain a razor-thin 26-24 margin in the Senate.


Read more: http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20130323/NEWS09/303230044/1002/NEWS01/Abortion-debate-suppresses-pregnant-inmate-bill-Iowa-Senate?nclick_check=1

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Abortion debate suppresses pregnant inmate bill in Iowa Senate (Original Post) Judi Lynn Mar 2013 OP
what a mean and nasty place the u.s. is becoming... KG Mar 2013 #1
Not all of the US only certain parts of the US are already or are becoming that way uselessobot Mar 2013 #2
And yet atreides1 Mar 2013 #9
Well the decent and sane in those states are going to have to take matters uselessobot Mar 2013 #12
This breaks my heart duhneece Mar 2013 #3
We thought transvaginal ultrasounds meant control. . . Faygo Kid Mar 2013 #4
When you are in prison you are under the control of the state bossy22 Mar 2013 #7
Did you read my post? Faygo Kid Mar 2013 #8
I was contacted by the attorney for a pregnant inmate marshall Mar 2013 #5
Those fucking cornfield Christian conservatives are the worst. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #6
Women are miscarrying in jails all the time The Flaming Red Head Mar 2013 #10
This is terrible davidpdx Mar 2013 #11
"Iowa conservatives are nasty" 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2013 #13
 

uselessobot

(43 posts)
2. Not all of the US only certain parts of the US are already or are becoming that way
Reply to KG (Reply #1)
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 07:13 AM
Mar 2013

Unfit places for decent and sane people to live.

atreides1

(16,087 posts)
9. And yet
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 04:09 PM
Mar 2013

Decent and sane people still live in those backward, theocratic, misogynist states...with no hope of changing the make up of those legislatures!

And because of the rigging that those same legislatures did with the last census...those very same backward, misogynists maintain a hold on the US Congress and that will only make things worse for all of us!!!

 

uselessobot

(43 posts)
12. Well the decent and sane in those states are going to have to take matters
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 06:39 PM
Mar 2013

into their own hands now if they really desire change.

duhneece

(4,116 posts)
3. This breaks my heart
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 08:17 AM
Mar 2013

Poor Rep Petersen, who cares for women inmates, but can't push for them not to be shackled when giving birth.

Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
4. We thought transvaginal ultrasounds meant control. . .
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 10:11 AM
Mar 2013

. . . this takes the underlying motivation for taking away women's choices - to control them - to an even higher level. Shackling pregnant women. The ultimate GOP fantasy. Or is it a fantasy? Apparently not.

bossy22

(3,547 posts)
7. When you are in prison you are under the control of the state
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 02:14 PM
Mar 2013

your right to choose is severely limited and some choices will be made without your input. For example, in prison, you have no right o refuse treatment for a condition- but in the outside world you most certainly do.

There are plenty of reasons to argue against limiting inmate abortions but using a "woman's right to choose" is not a good argument.

marshall

(6,665 posts)
5. I was contacted by the attorney for a pregnant inmate
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 11:30 AM
Mar 2013

Several years ago when I was looking to adopt a child, an attorney halfway across the country emailed me. He said if I could cover his client's legal fees she would hand the child over to me. He said he could guarantee she was drug free for seven months of the pregnancy because she was in jail since the first trimester.

I didn't adopt the child, but often wonder what has hapened to mother and child.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
6. Those fucking cornfield Christian conservatives are the worst.
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 01:01 PM
Mar 2013

And there's a lot of them out there. You can drive around the Plains states and farmers have dead fetus billboards in their fields. And they keep trying to pass ever more restrictive abortion laws.

The Flaming Red Head

(1,805 posts)
10. Women are miscarrying in jails all the time
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 02:46 AM
Mar 2013

due to lack of health care. Why don't they give a fuck about the reality of being pregnant in the jails now and girls begging for help and getting none. What I know is anecdotal, but oh Gawd the horror stories. Man just fuck, fuck, fuck. the fucking right wing christian fuckers

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