Three More Suspects Taken Into Custody In Marathon Bombing

[MADem]

Source: WCVB Channel 5 Boston

Three more people have been taken into custody in connection with the Marathon bombing case, according to Boston police.

The three people, said to be college students by sources, will be taken to federal court in Boston, NewsCenter 5 has learned. The identities of the trio was not immediately known.

The individuals are from the New Bedford area and have been held in a county jail for more than a week on immigration violations.

The three people are believed to have helped the Tsarnaev brothers after the bombings.



Read more: http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/metro/police-3-more-arrested-in-marathon-bombings/-/11971628/19968182/-/7cgqpbz/-/index.html#ixzz2S3bsXDuc

Read more: http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/metro/police-3-more-arrested-in-marathon-bombings/-/11971628/19968182/-/7cgqpbz/-/index.html?utm_source=hootsuite&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=wcvb http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013/05/01/three-additional-people-taken-into-custody-boston-marathon-bombings/dhLzU1e5vfbuhxyjWlBOSP/story.html

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This is all they are saying--that three more "people" have been taken into custody. What their role was is still unclear; they were taken into custody by Boston Police so they are still in the Commonwealth.

This sounds like "Jahar's" little potsmoking buddies--I've added the material that WCVB has put up thus far. They keep changing the headline; I'm sure they will add more as they learn more to this link.

TV is saying two are from Kazakhstan and are being held by FBI on immigration violations; the third is a US citizen.

[Botany]

1. F.U. Lindsey Graham

Obama with the head of the FBI, (phone) his chief of staff, and his head of counter terrorism
2 hours after the bombing.

[titanicdave]

3. Simply Fantastic

your post hits the nail on the head and I also love the F U Lindsey Graham......great post

[Botany]

7. Lindsey really has me on my last nerve

Last edited Wed May 1, 2013, 10:37 PM - Edit history (1)

Lindsey's "If I was in charge I would run the investigation and the prosecution
in a military court." rough quote

No Graham you are not a member of the DoJ, the Boston PD, or the
Court System in Massachusetts so you have zero say in the matter.

[freshwest]

27. Boston and PBO are doing quite well without that idiot's help. Lindsay's first solution would be to

'Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran' or something similarly useless to profit his masters while ruining any attempt to recover from the last neo-con war orgy, from which he'd get a hefty bonus.

What a scoundrel.

[MADem]

9. +1,000 and great pic, too... nt

[OKNancy]

2. now it says "college students"

Three college students have been arrested in connection with the Boston Marathon bombings, a Boston police source said this morning.

The Boston police official Twitter account said that three additional “suspects” had been taken into custody.

The source said the three had been arrested by federal authorities.

Police said in the tweet that further details would follow.

[DonViejo]

4. FBI Silent On Report Of New Arrests In Marathon Bombing Case

ERIC LACH 11:16 AM EDT, WEDNESDAY MAY 1, 2013

The FBI's Boston office declined to comment on the Boston Police Department's announcement on Wednesday that three additional suspects had been taken into custody in the Boston Marathon bombing case.

"At this point, we're not really in a position to make any comment," Allison Mahan, a spokesperson in the FBI's Boston office, told TPM.

Mahan referred TPM to the Boston Police Department.

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http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/fbi-silent-on-report-of-new-arrests-in

[freshwest]

28. Live Boston coverage says indictments to be unsealed and read this afternoon.

[chillfactor]

5. now Breaking News on MSNBC n/t

[Yo_Mama]

6. These are those arrested on immigration charges on the Friday before Tsarnaev was killed.

Or so I just heard. It's just that custody is being transferred and they are supposed to be charged with aiding after the fact?

I'm sure by the end of the week we'll know more, so no need to go crazy now.

http://livewire.wcvb.com/Event/117th_Running_of_Boston_Marathon

[MADem]

12. The ones with the silver BMW sports car.

Gotta wonder how college kids can afford such a fine ride....!

I think you're right--it's that same lot.

[Moostache]

26. REALLY?!?!? You HAVE to wonder?

Sorry if this is sounding like a personal attack, its not meant to be just aimed at the poster, but more in general at the sad state of media "reporting" and the culture in general...

Used BMWs are cheap as hell in some places...now if it is a top-of-the-line, new model with tricked out rims and custom paint and sound system in the hands of 20-something students, it MIGHT be suspicious (but certainly not 100% CERTAINLY) or maybe one of them just has overly rich parents that compensate for not being with their children by giving them expensive toys (I knew many people like that in college and high school)...but to make an ominous sounding "gotta wonder..." type reply is just feeding the media fear monster and reinforcing the idea that we must be eternally afraid of boogeymen that require us to give up more and more freedoms.

The police and law enforcement are trying to do their jobs and ceaseless media and internet driven hype and speculation make that more difficult and also poison the potential jury pool for those inconvenient trials that should be held in courts and not in papers and message boards...

Once again, all apologies for the impression of a personal attack, just venting frustration and begging your indulgence.

[MADem]

42. These kids were flunking out of UMASS Dartmouth, living off campus in a cheap cardboard apartment.

The cheapest one I was able to find was a 2002 for 6K with 180K miles. I think this car is newer than that. Most of the older vehicles were 10K and up. And it went up and up the newer the cars were....

Keep in mind that tuition at UMASS Dartmouth is around 10K. For that money, a person could get a nearly new economy car.

They were also hanging out with the Campus Pot Dealer....so there's that.

And if they had rich parents, UMASS Dartmouth is not a "likely" school. It is a "likely" school for recent immigrants, though.

There are tons of schools in the Boston area that cater to foreign students that would do a MUCH better job at integrating new arrivals and providing them with an optimal college experience, should money be no object. Living in an economically deprived area of New Bedford isn't the way to get your "American College Experience," so I don't buy the rich parent angle. And at least one of the kids was from Cambridge, too.


It does sound like a personal attack, but I'll take you at your word.

I think it's important for you to not worry about the police trying to do their jobs, or jury pools, or even "internet driven hype." This is a DISCUSSION board--the purpose here isn't to STFU and not say anything out of "fear" that someone will be unduly influenced, the idea here is to DISCUSS the news and issues of the day.

That said, I doubt this will ever get to a jury, unless "Jahar" has a death wish. He has a good legal team and their job is to cut a deal to spare his LIFE.

IMO, YMMV.

[OKNancy]

8. CNN: making false statements and obstructing justice

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/01/us/boston-attack/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Three additional suspects in the Boston Marathon bombing have been taken into custody, Boston police said Wednesday.
A Department of Homeland security source with first-hand knowledge of the investigation, said two of them are students from New Bedford, Massachusetts. They have been arrested on charges of making false statements to investigators and conspiracy to obstruct justice.
A third student had been arrested who is a U.S. citizen, the source said.
Boston police added via Twitter, "Please be advised there is no threat to the public."

[muriel_volestrangler]

11. I wasn't sure if you meant the students, or CNN, were making false statements

and obstructing justice ...

[MADem]

13. CNN does have a track record, after all.....

[OKNancy]

17. LOL - I did hesitate using CNN as a source n/t

[Kadie]

22. ROFL!

Could be both.

[pinto]

29. LOL

[louis-t]

34. I was wondering if they were saying "no danger" from

the students or from CNN.

[TheFutureWillCome]

35. lol

yea I thought the same thing.

[hrmjustin]

39. Welcome to DU my friend!

[TheFutureWillCome]

53. thank you

[tblue]

18. CNN. Is that their new motto?

I think it should be.

[glinda]

25. Now there is an idea. Use "Obstruction of Justice" with Faux and other Media Outlets.

[freshwest]

30. +1

[DonViejo]

10. Roommates of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Arrested in Boston Bombing Case

NBC's Pete Williams reports that the three suspects were all roommates of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, and may have removed items from their dorm suite after the bombing. They were under surveillance by the FBI for several day, and any crimes that may be charged with likely took place after the bombing, making them accessories after the fact.

Earlier today, two men that previously been connected to Tsarnaev appeared in court on a visa violation hearing. The men, Azamat Tazhayakov and Dias Kadyrbayev, both originally from Kazakhstan, were arrested more than a week ago on the visa charge and appeared at the hearing via video conference. It's been reported, but not confirmed, that those two men might have been among today's arrests. The third roommate was arrested this morning, per Pete Williams.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/05/more-boston-marathon-bombing-suspects/64770/

[FarCenter]

14. Maybe going through the Dartmouth, MA landfill paid off

FBI Continues Search Of Dartmouth Landfill

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/04/25/fbi-continues-search-of-new-bedford-landfill/

[freshwest]

32. Ugh, the landfill. That's a job. Watching on live coverage now.

White House briefing now, not directly involved, talking about the morning after pill. WCVB is hoping they will comment on this news.

[MADem]

15. They "took items" from Jahar's dorm room, apparently.

That's what Susan Wornick/WCVB is saying right now, anyway.

Accessories after the fact, perhaps?

They maybe were the ones who got rid of the laptop for him...? Ah--they're saying "a backpack full of fireworks" right now....

They're showing the Moakley Courthouse in South Boston on the TV right now -- a helo shot (that thing is quite impressive from a distance). I guess they expect them to turn up there for arraignment or something...

They have a person providing narrative color who is speculating that these guys may be dunces who were conned to do this with a false excuse, not that they were willful accessories after the fact.

The police are reiterating that there is NO threat to the public.

[maddezmom]

31. She walking back the fireworks/ backpacks right now, saying none of her sources would confirm

What they have found at the landfill. guess we will know this afternoon.

[MADem]

45. They just read the charges--they're being accused of removing fireworks and the laptop.

The Kazakh students face charges of making false statements to investigators and conspiracy to obstruct justice, according to a federal law enforcement source with firsthand knowledge of the investigation.

All three are accused of removing items from Tsarnaev's dorm room at the University of Massachusetts-Dartmouth after the bombings, a law enforcement official who has been briefed about the arrests said.

Law enforcement officials believe they helped destroy evidence that might further implicate Dzhokhar Tsarnaev in the bombing by disposing of fireworks and his laptop, a U.S. government official said.

Two U.S. government officials said the charges involve illegal actions after the bombing. One official said Dzhokhar Tsarnaev contacted the three after FBI agents released photographs of Tsarnaev and his older brother Tamerlan and asked them to dispose of the items. The suspects said they did not know the significance of what they were doing, the official told CNN.



Read more: http://www.wcvb.com/news/national/3-more-detained-in-Boston-attack/-/9848944/19968392/-/uw0rkuz/-/index.html#ixzz2S49eyfBk

[maddezmom]

48. Thanks

I am out and about and trying to follow on DU and in the car on Sirius radio.

[Myrina]

44. If they were 'conned' into taking stuff from his room ...

... who conned them? Dzhokar's been either unconscious, drugged or being questioned since he was caught. Big Bro is dead. So who hipped them to the fact that there might be stuff in that room that was better off gone?

[freshwest]

49. Been listening to live coverage, says this is from text messages, and they got involved after the

bombing, not before.

His friends had seen Jahar's picture on the news and were upset that he was considered a suspect. They decided to go into his dorm room where they found the laptop and empty boxes of fireworks which they made the explosives with, inside a laptop.

The texts are in the indictment. Wireless communications are not private, which some people don't know. They decided to toss the backpack with Jahar's laptop and the boxes into a dumpster.

Newsperson, reading from the indictment, says the FBI found the backpack in the landfill with the laptop and boxes. And now they've put it all together.

All of this sounds like material accomplices hiding the crime. No one says on the news yet that they had prior knowledge, but not turning it over to the authorities may have cost that MIT policeman his life, so this is very serious.

[MADem]

50. You are assuming that they were conned AFTER he was caught.

When "Jahar" and his brother decided to load up the green car with bombs and then hijack the Mercedes to go "party" in NYC, he wasn't unconscious.

How long does it take to make a phone call between trips from the apartment to the car to load up those IEDs?

Jahar left Dartmouth to return to Cambridge--maybe he "forgot" his laptop and fireworks because he was too stoned?

I can be sober as a judge and forget my reusable grocery bags when I go to the store, or my cellphone when I go out...it happens. You put everything RIGHT BY the door, so you won't forget it, and then waltz out to the car and are halfway down the highway to your destination

I don't know if these guys are accessories BEFORE the fact, but the charging authorities are certain that they are accessories AFTER the fact...for starters, anyway.

Time will reveal all, I'm sure!

[Myrina]

52. Well, yes. Why would someone take the stuff from the room BEFORE Dzhokar was 'news'?

[MADem]

54. Perhaps he expected to be "news" after he went to NYC?

Or maybe he and his brother didn't intend to return to Massachusetts, but instead were going to "Bonnie and Clyde" it across America, jacking cars and buying pressure cookers and fireworks?

When you don't come back to school, they're gonna search your room. Why have evidence there that points to you, if you can avoid it?

He'd be a "missing person," not necessarily a "bomber"--but that's ONLY assuming that no one recognized him.

And he KNEW by then that the "authorities" had his picture, and that it was only a matter of time before he was, indeed, news.

The first pictures of the bomber (which were on the air BEFORE those two started running) were blurry--but they were certainly clear enough to get those two moving, weren't they?

[Myrina]

58. I'm not here to argue with you.

Your stance on this issue is pretty obvious, given your screen name & your other posts on the subject.
Hope you find some peace somewhere down the road.
Buh bye.

[MADem]

62. I am simply not ruling anything out, while you, apparently, are.

You can see the coverage on the WCVB website...if you're interested.

Or you can trash the thread. Whatever.

[brooklynite]

16. WaPo: They disposed of material at a landfill after the bombing at Tsarnaev's request

[Wernothelpless]

19. Look at the video, AGAIN

There's a young woman following the two brothers and she's wearing a yellow jacket and a backpack that matches the older brother ...

Just sayin' ....

[freshwest]

23. Thanks, hadn't seen this one.

[maddezmom]

24. Wonder if she is any other vids or pics.

CNN is saying the woman taken into custody maybe the younger bros girlfriend since she lived at the same addy as the 2 others.

[jberryhill]

36. She doesn't seem to come from the same direction

The Tsarnaevs round the corner on the sidewalk. In the last sequence, she seems to be coming in from a different direction by crossing the street.

[muriel_volestrangler]

38. "Just sayin'" that only 2 backpacks exploded, and she's not directly behind them

So you're basically "just castin' suspicion" AGAIN on anyone carryin' a backpack in the area (the pattern on the back of her pack does NOT match that on the first brother's).

[Wernothelpless]

65. These they arrested

are charged with trying to destroy another backpack full of explosives ...

And under these recent circumstances in Bosont if I were the FBI and, of course, I'm not ... I'd at least be talking to her ... maybe this is why they haven't done anything until now? ... Maybe they let them think they believed they acted alone and then waited for them to start destroying evidence ....

I had guessed that when they told their entire story to "Danny" as they carjacked his SUV that others had to be involved ... these two were not the kind of guys to keep their mouths shut ... quite the opposite ... they could NOT have kept this secret ... deluded, bold, and arrogant ... but not secretive ...

[alcibiades_mystery]

43. Is that Sunil Tripathi in drag???

[MADem]

55. I know you're snarking, but they found that poor kid's remains.

That was a bit of overreach, trying to fit his face onto "Jahar's"--they didn't look at all alike, and the height difference was insurmountable.

[alcibiades_mystery]

56. I'm not snarking

I'm registering my disgust for Internet Detectives accusing people of terrorism and murder.

I'm well aware that they found the remains of poor Mr. Tripathi.

[MADem]

63. Well, I meant snarking to imply "registering of disgust."

Snarking generally isn't cheerleading. It often involves pointed barbs and sarcasm.

You can't stop people from speculating. I don't mind speculation, myself, so long as it takes a few facts into consideration and remains grounded in both reality and possibility.

No one cheerleading that missing-student-as-bomber theory could explain the height difference or the fact that the two looked nothing alike--even in a blurry pic.

[treestar]

60. In the third shot, she comes from a different place than they do

They are coming around the corner, she starts out in the street.

[freshwest]

20. Thanks, watching the live coverage from the Boston station at the link now.

[RobinA]

21. Probably the Guys

who helped them knock over the 7-11.

More drama that will probably add up to nothing in this case.

[Moostache]

33. Not to downplay the events in Boston, but what about West, TX?

14 people killed.
100's injured.
Entire sections of the town leveled.

And yet, you do not see anywhere NEAR the coverage of the Boston Bomber Bros and co.

WAKE UP PEOPLE!

Let's do some rudimentary analysis here...

Case One. Horrific public bombing with foreigners and terrorism angle. Media obsessed with coverage and "Breaking News" every other day to keep the "story" going and giving it legs...

Case Two. Corporate malfeasance and lax enforcement of government regulations on capitalism (almost a "well, boys-will-be-boys" type attitude towards safety and rules). End result is a horrific explosion that killed 14 people and maimed many more...yet, the only news is there will be a single senator holding hearings? No media breaking news. No reporters breathlessly casing down leads.

Now, I ask everyone, which case is being used to manipulate the public and which case is being manipulated to hide from the public? We don't need an Alex Jones conspiracy theory here to see exactly who is controlling the government and the media to protect one of their own at the expense of the rest of us.

I am not asking for people to ignore Boston, just some proportionality in coverage and some outrage at the corporations and not just saving up the venom for the "evil doers"...

[MADem]

37. Are you suggesting that West, TX was a terrorist attack, or an horrific accident by a greedy and

careless corporation that flouted the law and didn't give a shit about their neighbors?

Five people were killed in Seattle, too: http://rt.com/usa/seatle-shooting-five-killed-212/


A shooting is not a fertilizer plant fire/explosion, and neither of the two are terrorist attacks.


Do you want to make a "point" about West, TX? You're free to start a thread on it. I don't think anyone disagrees that it was a tragedy for which greedy corporate pigs need to be held responsible, but that has nothing to do with Chechen terrorism. And what more is there to be revealed about West, TX? We know what caused it and we know who did it.

We can't say with certainty why the Tsarnaev's did what they did, and we don't know if there are others involved. It's still a developing story. THAT's why it's covered, still.

[Moostache]

41. Not really the point I was trying to make...

The coverage is so overtly over-board on Boston versus anything else.

The industrial "accidents" are relegated to obscurity and the sensational "Terrorism" is screamed at the top of the media lungs. There is a point where "news" becomes propaganda to serve a pre-determined agenda and the coverage of Boston crossed that line already and is circling back for a second crossing...

I just see it differently, but commenting on the media coverage of one incident versus another is not really something that requires its own thread or must be segregated from the discussion.

And "Chechen terrorism"?
Really?
This is now state sponsored terrorism from Chechnya?

Wow. Maybe I need to pay closer attention to the overtly pro-law enforcement, terrorists-are-everywhere coverage of this and stop dismissing it as mind control of the masses...silly me.

[Myrina]

46. ^^ Moostache, for the win ^^

Thank you.

[MADem]

61. Moostache can start his own OP, rather than derail this one. I'd say that was a real "winner,"

but not in the way you mean.

Anytime someone says "Don't talk about THIS, talk about THAT," I have to wonder why it's so hard to hold two ideas in one's head at the same time. And I have to wonder why the TRASH THREAD option isn't exercised.

[MADem]

59. Well, accidents are just that--accidents. People like you need to keep screaming for more

regulation, instead of complaining that an ongoing story with elements that are being developed even as we speak shouldn't be covered. It's not an Either/Or proposition, you know--it's a What do people want to hear about? Where's the "news angle?" What has happened to advance the story? element that causes a news agency to choose to cover one story over another.

What's the "news" out of TX? Or should we keep repeating "Big explosion....terrible thing, happened last month...lots of buildings destroyed....many people are still dead and wounded..."

What has CHANGED? That is what is reported.

Something has CHANGED in this story--three people have been arrested. That happened TODAY.

News stories are covered based on expressed interest. Go fire up a crowd and get people to express interest--don't yell at people for following a story about my hometown--which is, like it or not, a story I am interested in because it affects me and my family members. Many others feel the same way I do, either because they know people from MA, used to live here or go to school here, etc.

You CAN trash the thread if it bugs you--works better than playing Mister Scold. Maybe you should do that, rather than derail it.

Now you're complaining that this is "state sponsored terrorism from Chechnya?" I haven't heard any journalists reporting news about this development on any of the three network news stations, or the cables, saying that. REALLY. Pundits making commentary about this event are no different from pundits taking guesses about what lit off that explosion in TX....for all we know it could have been a fat guy with a cigar that caused that mess, or spontaneous combustion, or a "terrist" with a cigarette....see? Anyone can "speculate."

You're the only one shopping the "terrorists are everywhere" angle in this thread. The focus has been on the simple fact that three arrests were made. Right now what we know is that "Jahar" has a few pals who were accessories after the fact. Two are Kazakhs, not Chechyans, and their immigration status is out of order.

There will no doubt be more information as this ONGOING STORY develops.

When you have "new" news about West, TX, you can start a thread about it too, you know, rather than criticize others for discussing a news story that just broke today. I won't derail your thread with gripes that you're not talking about a story of interest to me, though. That would be rude.

[LanternWaste]

64. What (precisely) is the pre-determined agenda that the Boston coverage is attempting?

What (precisely) is the pre-determined agenda that the Boston coverage is attempting? I imagine you'll supply us with some objective and peer-reviewed analysis validated your premise, yes?

Otherwise, it's merely editorial which, by definition, is also part and parcel of Propaganda.




"silly me..." Indeed.

[Moostache]

68. If you have been offended, it was not my intent.

The pre-determined agenda is to get people to be more accepting of militarized police forces and paramilitary operations that are keeping us "safe" from terrorists (NDAA, Patriot Act, Warrant-less Wire Tapping*, etc. - all of which have either their genesis or their renewals based in part on the idea that we are all in so much imminent peril that due process is not necessary and the Bill of Rights is a mere inconvenience to be overlooked) while totally ignoring the very real dangers of unregulated (or poorly regulated) businesses - which will willingly gamble with the lives of the people around them if it means an extra $10.

Granted, from my vantage point here in fly-over country, terrorism is a much more remote possibility than dying in a corporate malfeasance episode, so I freely admit that bias.

* http://news.antiwar.com/2012/12/31/president-obama-reauthorizes-warrantless-wiretapping-law/
* http://www.aclu.org/blog/tag/ndaa

Here's a link to another person trying to say (probably more succinctly and better than I) what my point in replying to a Boston Bombing thread was in the first place...we shall just have to all agree to disagree from there:

http://www.alternet.org/have-we-lost-our-minds-why-boston-bombing-got-so-much-more-attention-west-texas-explosion
[link:On the other hand, I also wonder if we have lost our minds to the media and allowed them to shape our perception of reality and dictate our reactions to certain events through subliminal conditioning. |
"On the other hand, I also wonder if we have lost our minds to the media and allowed them to shape our perception of reality and dictate our reactions to certain events through subliminal conditioning."

[cbdo2007]

57. How many threads have you started on the West, Tx thing?

Why are you posting in this one if you are so against giving the Boston Bombings so much coverage....even moreso, why did you click on it to begin with, just to complain??

If you have some interesting info on the West, Tx thing, go ahead and post it. No one is here stopping you or anyone else from starting new threads on it.

[MADem]

67. I agree with you, there!

No limit on OPs, so long as they aren't spammy....and there's always HIDE THREAD if folks don't like the topic...!!!

[newmember]

40. before this is over it will come out he was trained by Radical Muslim extremists

They may have used them as pawns but this will be linked to an over seas terror group

[Myrina]

47. Does Chechnya have oil?

I suspect you're right, sadly.

[MADem]

51. They have a pipeline, too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baku%E2%80%93Novorossiysk_pipeline

[Electric Monk]

66. kick