Britain pressed to rethink aid after India snubs
British Prime Minister David Cameron is facing growing calls to cut huge aid handouts to India after a series of perceived snubs.
Britain was stunned this month when New Delhi announced a big contract to buy French warplanes instead of the UK-backed Eurofighter Typhoon, despite intense efforts by the British government to boost trade.
Angry lawmakers then stepped up pressure on Cameron to axe the more than £1-billion ($1.6-billion, 1.2-billion euro) aid budget for India after reports that the Indian finance minister described the handouts as "a peanut".
Cameron -- who led a huge business delegation to India soon after taking office in 2010 -- has pledged to press New Delhi to reverse its decision on the warplanes.
More: http://news.yahoo.com/britain-rethinks-aid-india-snubs-041107269.html
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)LONDON Prime Minister David Cameron is facing growing calls to cut huge aid handouts to India after a series of perceived snubs.
Britain was stunned this month when New Delhi announced a big contract to buy French warplanes instead of the UK-backed Eurofighter Typhoon, despite intense efforts by the British government to boost trade.
Angry lawmakers then stepped up pressure on Cameron to axe the more than £1-billion aid budget for India after reports that the Indian finance minister described the handouts as "a peanut".
Cameron -- who led a huge business delegation to India soon after taking office in 2010 -- has pledged to press New Delhi to reverse its decision on the warplanes.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iDQMrtNU5tjT0jw1WcRN8G03NbXQ?docId=CNG.b7b84d73ae0e2b3179e9deb594bd393e.261
Reposted with original AFP link because I found the Yahoo one erratic.
Original mention of subject here :
If India doesn't want our aid, stop it now, Cameron told after country labels £280m-a-year donations as 'peanuts'
David Cameron was under intense pressure last night to slash the £1billion in aid Britain gives to India after the country said it no longer wanted the money.
India's finance minister Pranab Mukherjee said the booming country should 'voluntarily' give up the £280million a year it receives from Britain.
He told the Indian parliament: 'We do not require the aid. It is a peanut in our total development spending.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2096628/British-foreign-aid-India-tells-Britain-dont-need-peanuts-offer-us.html#ixzz1m9n9nd1t
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)post ref. to this issue before was because at the time more or less just the the Mail was carrying it. Daily Mail links piss some off here despite the fact that in December they even managed to overtake the NYT in online readership : http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2012/jan/25/dailymail-internet
There are oddities with that aid to India but it does at least serve a good cause.
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)...on second look this is almost more analysis. But, meh, 3 people have already found it to be of interest and twittered it. Still interesting story in that this whole scrum basically seems to be over weapons sales. India has not just Pakistan as a security threat, but China too: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/indiahome/indianews/article-2092841/China-plays-bully-Arunachal-Beijing-tells-Delhi-work-Eastern-sector-formula.html
I may have ragged on some Daily Mail coverage in the distant past myself over I/P coverage.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)LBN.
I just mentioned the initial kerfuffle for completeness. In passing , aside from those mainly in the south east who buy the Guardian for its political leaning, political leaning is about the least reason which sells newspapers here. When the Sun for example , whose leanings change a bit like the weather, changes it make sfa difference to their circulation.
Riftaxe
(2,693 posts)Considering India's economic output, i hardly think this will be even a hiccup on the monetary horizon.
Sure they could milk the UK for more, but a dwarf paying a Giant just to exist, really is just silly in the end.
Not glossing over the facts that India is a cesspit (if you are one of the lucky few, human rights are a distant dream for most indians and those in their occupied territories) if you happen to be stuck there to live, but on a global level, i think i nailed it on the head.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)like the Indians took the money the British taxpayers gave them to buy British weapons and used it to by French weapons instead.
Vehl
(1,915 posts)Indian Company Tata is the largest Industrial Employer in England, employing 45000 people. They also own jaguar, Land RoverTetley and Corus. Furthermore they were the only major Company to expand and hire more people while other British Companies were shrinking their workforce in the past decade.The fact that they continually get ranked annually as one of the top 5 companies to work in England does not hurt either.
Thats a lot of gloom and, an unlikely hero can be found in an Indian brand name Tata.
Tata, which has spent $15 billion buying Tetley, Corus and Jaguar Land Rover, has not only bucked the trend, but contrary to fears in the UK, has stayed focused in the UK and retained the original names and brands and has grown and added numbers to the workforce it inherited through these acquisitions...Hell the Indian food-industry in Britain itself has more revenue than all of British Steel companies combined.
Tata UK is now the countrys biggest manufacturer, with almost 40,000 workers just ahead of British Aerospace. Bring in Tatas service industries, such as consultancy, and the payroll tops 45,000. Its presence in Britain is part of a growing trend. Britain is second only to America as a destination for investment by emerging-market firms, many of them from India, says The Economist.
http://www.firstpost.com/business/thank-tata-brand-india-takes-on-more-shine-in-uk-84141.html
The British MP's who complained show their ugly colonial face. India "Should" buy the Eurofighter cos they paid what? a measly 200ish million per year as aid?(around 2 bil over ten years) seriously?? This is a joke. India has paid nearly 3 Billion in Aid in the past decade to Afghanistan alone!.
In 2011 India wanted Britain to stop its aid, and apparently the British leaders asked them to keep on receiving aid because stopping it would entail "loss of face" after selling "foreign aid" to their public. Maybe the British MP's should also be informed that it was the British who robbed India blind during their centuries of colonial rule...reducing a country that had about 25% of the world's GDP before they arrived, to a measly 2% by the time they left.
notice how the Indian GDP share takes a nosedive coinciding with the formation of the British Colonial rule.
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Time for the old MP's to wake up and smell the Chai, and remember that this is not the British Raj anymore.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)At least get your facts right.
Vehl
(1,915 posts)Re read my post.
Indian Company Tata is the largest Industrial Employer in England, employing 45000 people. They also own jaguar, Land RoverTetley and Corus. Furthermore they were the only major Company to expand and hire more people while other British Companies were shrinking their workforce in the past decade.The fact that they continually get ranked annually as one of the top 5 companies to work in England does not hurt either.
If you look at the linked article, it clearly means that the British companies have been cutting back,while Tata is the only company to expand hiring. My only "fault" seems to be conflating two sentences into one (in the 3rd sentence). But anyone who looked at the link would not have been confused.
anyways...how does this invalidate the point I was making in the first place? Indian companies form one of the biggest investment sources/industrial bases of Britain...the 200 mil per year the Brits give are "peanuts" as the finance minister correctly put. On the other hand it speaks volumes about the "generosity" of the British MP's by calling into question the rationale behind their aid program. Aid is not supposed to be a backdoor bribe...as the British MP's seem to imply.
Apart from TATA
Foreign direct investment in London has jumped to £52bn from £38bn two years ago, with India now the second biggest source, a survey has said.
India accounted for 16% of all new foreign investment into the capital between 2003 and 2007, according to direct investment agency, Think London.
The US remained top, with 31% of new overseas investment in the capital.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6599693.stm
India invests 16% of 52Billion£ (68Billion $) in Britain(in 2007..now its probably even higher) and Brtish MP rants about 200 million in Aid. Fantastic
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)"Furthermore they were the only major Company to expand and hire more people while other British Companies were shrinking their workforce in the past decade."
Vehl
(1,915 posts)As I explained in the previous post (in edits)
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)When India exploded nuclear devices in 1998 in order to serve as a deterrent to China, Britain and the US spearheaded a massive campaign to impose tough sanctions on India. Only France and Russia vetoed the sanctions in the UNSC. It is payback time. India rejected the American fighter jets and the Eurofighter infavor of Rafale -- the largest arms deal inked in this century so far.
£240 million in so called "aid" is not even peanuts, it is smaller than sesames.
It is high time the Western countries realized India's concerns and stopped supporting Pakistan and cow-towing to China. It is a different world now.