California serial killer Richard Ramirez dies
Source: ABC News
California corrections officials say convicted serial killer Richard Ramirez, known as the Night Stalker, has died.
San Quentin State Prison spokesman Lt. Sam Robinson says Ramirez died Friday morning. He had recently been taken from death row to a hospital.
Ramirez was convicted of 13 murders that terrorized Southern California in 1984 and '85, and sentenced to death.
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And so the infamous Night Stalker meets his end. I remember quite vividly how freaked out he had Southern California; a season of fear. One of the serial killers I remember from my youth, along with the Hillside Strangler(s). It made growing up in Los Angeles a unique, if morbid, experience.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)the crowd caught him during the attempted carjacking and beat him within an inch of his life when they realized he was the Night Stalker.
Berlin Expat
(950 posts)crowd had had their way, they would've either beat him to death or strung him up right there on the spot.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)"Save me, God...."
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)beaten within an inch of his life. He was treated by a fireman and released at the scene to the police. They did, however, RELENTLESSLY chase him...it went on for more than an hour, with more people joining as he cut through their yards, etc...
stevil
(1,537 posts)We stopped leaving windows open overnight during his spree.
SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)zonkers
(5,865 posts)the town gripped in fear. it was weird. What a state of fear we were all in. Reminded me of NY and Son of Sam which i lived through. My gf never wanted to spend a moment alone. No one did. I bet there was a spike in babies conceived during his reign of terror.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)of his departure from the building.
CountAllVotes
(20,876 posts)I remember this guy only too well. He was spotted up near Lake Tahoe, CA and had killed some people in SF at that time. As for myself, I was on my honeymoon (if that is what you care to call it -- some "honeymoon" with a killer on the loose!).
It was really scarey and no one knew where he was.
A fellow citizen spotted him in LA and he was arrested and convicted.
The article says he was 53 years old at death.
What a horrible evil criminal this man was.
I have no regrets that he is gone now; saving the taxpayers a lot of money supporting this POS.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)Ramirez was born in El Paso, Texas, the youngest of Julian and Mercedes Ramirez's five children.[8] His father, a policeman who later became a laborer on the Santa Fe railroad,[9] was abusive and believed in corporal punishment.[10]
As a child, Ramirez sustained two serious head injuries: one which occurred when a dresser fell on top of him and the second when he was knocked out by a swing. He also suffered from frequent epileptic seizures which he eventually grew out of.[11]
As a child, Ramirez was influenced by his cousin, Mike, a Special Forces veteran who boasted of his gruesome exploits during the Vietnam War and showed him Polaroid pictures of his victims.[12] These included pictures of Mike raping a Vietnamese woman. The last picture of that series showed Mike posing with the woman's severed head.[13] Ramirez was present the night Mike shot and killed his wife, and her blood spattered on Ramirez's face.[citation needed] Ramirez was 13 years old at the time. After the murder, his behavior changed dramatically; he dropped out of school, began using drugs, and adopted odd sleeping habits.[14]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Ramirez
Bizarre upbringing...
treestar
(82,383 posts)Age 53, so I wonder what happened.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/07/richard-ramirez-dead_n_3403785.html
I imagine we'll learn more as the story unfolds...
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)poor med care are not factors. It may have worked in this case, and for the better.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)He would kill the husband then rape the wive on top of the husbands body. THEN he would write on the walls with their blood. Good fucking riddance scumbag.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)I can see how that would influence his behavior later in life. but I suppose it's just a lot easier to hope that he rots in hell rather than attempt to understand what makes these people tick.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Just the most "efficient."
Beacool
(30,250 posts)His cousin was a psychopath.
mokawanis
(4,442 posts)By the time of the trial, Ramirez had fans who were writing him letters and paying him visits.[28] Beginning in 1985, freelance magazine editor Doreen Lioy[29] wrote him nearly 75 letters during his incarceration.[30] In 1988 he proposed to her, and on October 3, 1996, they were married in California's San Quentin State Prison.[31] Before Ramirez's death, Lioy stated that she would commit suicide when Ramirez was executed.
What makes someone want to marry a monster like Ramirez?
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)A perfect storm of "ingredients" if you will...
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)An animal who was lucky he wasn't killed by the crowd who caught his nasty ass!
The world is improved slightly by his passing.
I hope it was painful.
Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)truebrit71
(20,805 posts)...shame he didn't suffer longer....
I lived through his reign of terror...you could almost hear the entire region breathe a collective sigh of relief when he was arrested...I remember sleeping with my window open that night for the first time in months..
kimbutgar
(21,163 posts)A friend of mine was one of those victims who was murdered in San Francisco and the case remains unsolved. But his girlfriend who was with him was certain he was the one who murdered her. It was in Richard Ramierez style. RIP Eddie your killer is dead I hope you're kicking his ass down to hell.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)What the hell was his diet like since the 80s?
Oh wait,...institutional,...including wax beans....
That stuff is worse than hospital food or airline food.
Probably better than school lunches though.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Liver failure at 53 is not exactly natural. Especially for someone who has been imprisoned and thereby supposedly not allowed alcohol or drugs for most of his adult life.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)He had used drugs in his early life; he probably got it then.
Tess49
(1,580 posts)REP
(21,691 posts)Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)that living in a yellow house was one of the common denominators of his victims.
Our friends had a yellow house at the time, and were nervous about it.
For the record: I'd have been nervous about living in a yellow house too, but only because I hate the color.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)When I started to recover enough from my mental illness to have lucid periods, it was reading accounts of Ramirez's crimes that inspired me to study Forensic Psychology.
Berlin Expat
(950 posts)formally studied Forensic Psychology, but over the years, I've read several case studies of serial killers, both American and international. Andrei Chikatilo, the "Rostov Ripper" is a fascinating and disturbing case, as is the "Moors Murderers", Ian Brady and Myra Hindley.
Some of the most fascinating cases are the ones where the killer(s) were never apprehended; the Zodiac Killer, the Mad Butcher of Kingsbury Run, the Original Night Stalker, (a.k.a. the East Area Rapist), the West Mesa Bone Collector, the Long Island Serial Killer (potentially), and yes, the Boston Strangler; there is DNA evidence that DeSalvo may not have been the perp - despite his confession - and he was never indicted. Of course, last but not least, Jack the Ripper; a case that will provoke discussion whenever it's brought up.
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)Like anyone who has an interest in crime, I have an opinion but so much time has passed and so many of the original documents have been lost or destroyed over the years that it will never be solved now.
I'm familiar with the DeSalvo controversy. I tend to think that he wasn't the Strangler on the grounds that he was also committing a string of rapes at the time and while both are crimes, the specific details are very different. The rapes used minimal force against the victim and DeSalvo talked to the victims throughout, almost trying to create a relationship with them in his head, what we call a control-reassurance rapist. The Strangler murders, on the other hand, were straightforward rage killings of immediate personal brutality. While it's not unheard of for a control-reassurance rapist to escalate to murder, it is unheard of for one man to present two such different profiles at the same time.
MillennialDem
(2,367 posts)about him during or possibly after the fact.
That and Challenger and Chernobyl are my first memories of world/local events.
mikeysnot
(4,757 posts)CA taxpayers are saved 50,000....