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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:15 PM Jun 2013

Mob in Bolivian town buries alive suspected rapist

Source: Reuters

(Reuters) - A mob in a Bolivian town buried alive a teenager alongside the body of a woman they suspected he had raped and murdered, Bolivian media reported on Friday.

The local prosecutor told reporters that he would start criminal proceedings against two people in the town of Colquechaca suspected of instigating the vigilante justice, which is not uncommon in the majority indigenous Andean country.

Townspeople wielding sticks and stones resisted police efforts to recover the body of 17-year-old Santos Ramos, who was thought to have raped and killed Leandra Arias, 35, leading Bolivian daily newspaper La Razon reported.

Read more: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/06/07/uk-bolivia-mob-idUKBRE9561B520130607

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Mob in Bolivian town buries alive suspected rapist (Original Post) dipsydoodle Jun 2013 OP
As long as they got the right guy.... dixiegrrrrl Jun 2013 #1
no, vigilante justice is wrong Skittles Jun 2013 #2
Yes. Vigilante justice, lynching for that matter, is always hunky-dory if "they got the right guy"… Journeyman Jun 2013 #3
Think that through. You're OK with THAT? Are you sure? 2ndAmForComputers Jun 2013 #9
Emotionally it feels good 'if' the right guy, but intellectually/logically it doesn't. Justice RKP5637 Jun 2013 #13
You "get" it.... dixiegrrrrl Jun 2013 #15
We always think alike!!! RKP5637 Jun 2013 #16
Jesus jumped-up Christ on a pogo stick, Codeine Jun 2013 #22
wtf? Marrah_G Jun 2013 #23
"it’ll be over for me in a little while, but they’ll have to go on rememberin’" rug Jun 2013 #4
That's deep. Thanks, rug. freshwest Jun 2013 #11
+++ 1,000 +++, n/t RKP5637 Jun 2013 #14
You're absolutely right. And I'm a little ashamed of an earlier post I made about this case. nomorenomore08 Jun 2013 #21
Viva la Bolivarian Revolution!! dbackjon Jun 2013 #5
The vigilanteeism of these people is the fault of the government? rpannier Jun 2013 #6
Everything is roses in Bolivia now that the capitalist dogs have been kicked to the curb dbackjon Jun 2013 #7
Confused. There aren't vigilantes in Capitalist countries? Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #8
Maybe you should provide a link to one of those posts you've read. Judi Lynn Jun 2013 #10
I think carla Jun 2013 #12
ummm well azurnoir Jun 2013 #17
I agree that some people are way too idealistic about this stuff. nomorenomore08 Jun 2013 #20
Key word: "Suspected". JoeyT Jun 2013 #18
BOoooLIVIA underpants Jun 2013 #19

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
1. As long as they got the right guy....
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:49 PM
Jun 2013

The news story I read said they tied him up and placed him in the grave, then the coffin was put in grave and everything buried.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
2. no, vigilante justice is wrong
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:14 PM
Jun 2013

what if wasn't him? Everyone deserves a trial with evidence presented.

2ndAmForComputers

(3,527 posts)
9. Think that through. You're OK with THAT? Are you sure?
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 12:01 AM
Jun 2013

Fuck. I wouldn't want that done to Josef fucking Mengele.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
13. Emotionally it feels good 'if' the right guy, but intellectually/logically it doesn't. Justice
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 08:54 AM
Jun 2013

always needs to be served in a lawful manner, but I sure understand your reply. I'm so fed up with people that do sh** like this like this guy and similar.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
22. Jesus jumped-up Christ on a pogo stick,
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 08:53 PM
Jun 2013

there is NO situation in which burying a human being alive represents anything like justice. Fuck that.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
4. "it’ll be over for me in a little while, but they’ll have to go on rememberin’"
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:23 PM
Jun 2013


My dear wife, Mr. Davies will tell you what’s happening here tonight. He’s a good man and he’s done everything he can for me. I suppose there are some other good men here too, only they don’t seem to realize what they’re doing. They’re the ones I feel sorry for, because it’ll be over for me in a little while, but they’ll have to go on rememberin’ for the rest of their lives. A man just naturally can’t take the law into his own hands and hang people without hurtin’ everybody in the world, ’cause then he’s just not breakin’ one law, but all laws. Law is a lot more than words you put in a book, or judges or lawyers or sheriffs you hire to carry it out. It’s everything people ever have found out about justice and what’s right and wrong. It’s the very conscience of humanity. There can’t be any such thing as civilization unless people have a conscience, because if people touch God anywhere, where is it except through their conscience? And what is anybody’s conscience except a little piece of the conscience of all men that ever lived? I guess that’s all I’ve got to say except, kiss the babies for me and God bless you. Your husband, Donald.
 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
5. Viva la Bolivarian Revolution!!
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:41 PM
Jun 2013

Under the glorious leadership of the Bolivarian Republic, the peaceful villagers throughout Bolivia are more enlightened than anywhere else

rpannier

(24,330 posts)
6. The vigilanteeism of these people is the fault of the government?
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:54 PM
Jun 2013

If I read your post correctly, I am baffled by the lack of logic

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
7. Everything is roses in Bolivia now that the capitalist dogs have been kicked to the curb
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:16 PM
Jun 2013

And least that is what I gather reading stories here on DU.

I must be mistaken

Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
10. Maybe you should provide a link to one of those posts you've read.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 02:15 AM
Jun 2013

Otherwise someone might think you're a little windy.

I've been reading here for years and have never seen one, yet.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
17. ummm well
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 02:29 PM
Jun 2013

Police and judicial workers are scarce in rural areas of Bolivia where residents often take justice into their own hands, making killings and lynchings not uncommon.

In 2009 President Evo Morales approved a law extending institutional recognition of "indigenous justice".

But as The Economist points out, "Community justice can sometime resemble legalised lynching, featuring stoning, strangulation or burning with petrol. The police do not keep separate records of these acts."

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/06/07/santos-ramos-bolivian-murder-suspect-buried-alive-grave-victim_n_3401013.html



nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
20. I agree that some people are way too idealistic about this stuff.
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 07:11 PM
Jun 2013

Still, your post sounds like a bit of a strawman.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
18. Key word: "Suspected".
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 12:26 AM
Jun 2013

The victim was deceased, so she didn't accuse him. Somehow I doubt a lynch mob bothered with a DNA test. There was probably as much due process as a witch trial involved.

If it turns out they were wrong, are they going to bring in a D9 and shove the whole town into a mass grave?

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