Authorities: Santa Monica gunman killed at least 6 before being shot to death by police
Source: Washington Post
SANTA MONICA, Calif. A gunman with an assault-style rifle killed at least six people in Santa Monica on Friday before police shot him to death in a gunfight in the Santa Monica College library, authorities said.
Santa Monica Police Chief Jacqueline Seabrooks told reporters the rampage began at a house in the coastal city before the gunman, dressed all in black, made his way to Santa Monica College..
Seabrooks said he killed two people in the house, which caught fire, two more people as he moved several blocks toward the campus, and then two more on campus.
He entered the library and fired on other people but didnt hit them, Seabrooks said.
Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/gunman-shoots-at-vehicles-near-southern-california-college/2013/06/07/3952abbe-cfab-11e2-8573-3baeea6a2647_story.html?hpid=z1
Gotta love those assault rifles. They have contributed so much to our society.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,169 posts)The Gungeon really hates it when weapons are improperly identified.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Deep13
(39,154 posts)Is it just a target-rich environment?
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)JI7
(89,279 posts)either currently or before so there is some familiarity.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)@GregMitch: Shocker: now SEVEN dead in Santa Monica shootings, and rising fears of 2nd gunman (may be in custody). http://t.co/xXldg65oeE
dbackjon
(6,578 posts)Why didn't they allow him to peacefully surrender?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)wtmusic
(39,166 posts)bluedigger
(17,087 posts)Probably didn't have anything to do with the President - just some nutter off the rails.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)yet another "responsible gun owner" suddenly becoming irresponsible.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,156 posts)89.9 FM in SoCal is based there. One employee encountered the shooter thinking he was a swat team member owing to his jack boots, black clothes and assault weapon in his arms while strolling casually through the corridors. They had a casual exchange. Chilling. Somebody else working for the station encountered him too. He let them all go without incident.
All this going on while Obama flew in and out of that area to gather funds and meet with the president of China in Palm Springs. He must think he's Joe Btfsplk with the rain cloud hanging round his head.
All Drama Obama! (my POTUS )
Kablooie
(18,641 posts)California has some of the most restrictive gun control laws and still this kind of thing happens.
I'll bet you'll hear them crow about how useless gun laws are.
Cha
(297,799 posts)Another day another damn assualt rifle killing random people just trying to live their lives.
davepc
(3,936 posts)Strongest assault weapons ban in the nation.
JI7
(89,279 posts)NBachers
(17,149 posts)SunSeeker
(51,745 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)it was not retroactive. I bet this rifle would have been perfectly legal even with a national AWB - California has some of the strictest gun laws in America.
By closing the gun show loophole I am assuming you really mean universal background checks - which is definitely something we need.
SunSeeker
(51,745 posts)We could then do gun buybacks like Australia did.
hack89
(39,171 posts)per year? Rifles are not the killers. Are you going to buy back every handgun in America?
SunSeeker
(51,745 posts)And yes, spending a few billion on that would be extremely worth it. We spent trillions to prevent the 3,000 deaths of 9/11.
hack89
(39,171 posts)can I choose to keep my guns if I want? Or is this really confiscation you are talking about?
SunSeeker
(51,745 posts)I have no problems with shotguns, hunting rifles, and revolvers. Civilians have no legitimate need for ARs or large magazines.
hack89
(39,171 posts)pretty ambitious agenda.
I know I will keep my guns - it has never been a concern.
SunSeeker
(51,745 posts)Semiautomatics that can take 30 round mags, like the gun the Tuscon killer used, should be illegal for civilian possession. I am fine with semiautomatics that have a fixed mag of no more than 10 rounds.
I know you keeping your guns has never been your concern. That is why the gunners' hair on fire assertions that the "gun grabbers" are about to take everyone's guns is so disingenuous and cynical.
hack89
(39,171 posts)have you forgotten Va Tech?
But since your ultimate desire is to ban guns, why are you surprised that gun owners are not willing to give an inch? Perhaps if controllers explicitly give up on their desires to ban guns then gun owners will be willing to work with you on other gun control issues.
SunSeeker
(51,745 posts)And no, I don't want to ban all guns. I don't know anyone who does. That is just another gunner shibboleth that even you don't believe. I just want to do what Australia did. Because it works.
Paladin
(28,277 posts)Trust me, you won't get anywhere with the individual you're talking to.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,050 posts)then come here to gloat about how ineffective it was.
hack89
(39,171 posts)not once in the decade she has been pushing it. She is perfectly fine with the present number of rifles in circulation. The old AWB wasn't retroactive either.
SunSeeker
(51,745 posts)Gungeoneers always bring Feinstein up. Apparently it is an obsession. Neither she nor any other reasonable person "is fine" with the number of ARs on the street.
hack89
(39,171 posts)Last edited Sat Jun 8, 2013, 01:02 PM - Edit history (1)
does she lack the courage to say what she really feels? Has she made the political calculation that hers is not a main stream view? Is she merely going through the motions to placate a noisy constituency?
The fact of the matter is that going back to 1994 no one has propose gun control legislation that would really ban assault weapons. Hell, Feinstein's legislation specifically legalizes non-military style semiautomatic rifles that are just as lethal as the rifles they want to ban - they just have wooden furniture instead of plastic and steel.
SunSeeker
(51,745 posts)yardwork
(61,715 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)if it is so.important then she needs to propose a complete ban and fight for it, don't you agree?
I personally think she is merely placating an important constituency.
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TheCowsCameHome
(40,169 posts)Idiot.
KareBear
(192 posts)Perhaps he missed the sign?
One_Life_To_Give
(6,036 posts)Interestingly it frequently is a male who appears to lash out like this. Like they are seeking revenge against their perceived oppressors?
olddots
(10,237 posts)I'm sure there are snappy graphs and charts but the question is important ,is it about input or genes ,brain chemistry or so many variables but this is a male dominated behavior pattern that's thousands of years old.
happyslug
(14,779 posts)Anther is split personality, 90% are female. It is much rarer in males (Through NOT unheard of). Furthermore the multiple personality people, an even RARER situation are almost all female (most people with split personalities, only have two personalities, but if they add a third, fourth, firth and even more personalities will then appear. In cases of Multiple personalities it seems to be a coping skill).
I bring up split personalities for it seems to be how some women handle stressful situations in the lives. Males tend to act out physically. It is a difference between the sexes. Men tend to opt for violence, women tend to internalize when facing stress.
Judi Lynn
(160,647 posts)Gunman in California killing spree had prior brush with law
Reuters
By Dana Feldman | Reuters 22 minutes ago.
By Dana Feldman
SANTA MONICA, California (Reuters) - The gunman who killed four people in a shooting rampage in Santa Monica before he was slain by police at a community college in the California seaside town was once a student there and had a brush with the law several years ago as a teenager, police said on Saturday.
Santa Monica Police Chief Jacqueline Seabrooks also revealed that several students at the college survived Friday's shootings by hiding in an interior room of the library and piling up heavy objects against the door as the gunman fired through the walls at them.
Seabrooks detailed how the gunman, after killing two people identified by a law enforcement source as his father and brother and apparently setting their house on fire, went on to carjack a woman's automobile, ordering her at gunpoint to drive him from place to place as he fired at other individuals.
That woman escaped unharmed, police said.
But two other people died - one of them a college employee shot while driving a sport utility vehicle in a school parking lot, and the other a woman gunned down outside the library at Santa Monica College.
More:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/gunman-california-killing-spree-had-prior-brush-law-013658407.html#rM6iTwc
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)They keep morticians and casket companies in business.
Blandocyte
(1,231 posts)Mr. and Ms. America, turn them in. Let's make all guns in civilian hands illegal. Deal with the political fallout. No one has the guts for that, tho.