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OhioChick

(23,218 posts)
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 10:33 AM Jun 2013

IBM employee axe cuts away 1,300 staff

Source: ZDNET

June 13, 2013 -- 09:31 GMT

Following reports that IBM planned to axe U.S. employees, employee group Alliance@IBM says at least 1,300 have been issued a pink slip.

International Business Machines Corp. has fired a minimum of 1,300 employees in a round of U.S. job cuts, according to Bloomberg. Employee group Alliance@IBM says that at least 222 people in marketing have been given their marching orders, as well as 165 in semiconductor research.

Lee Conrad, a coordinator for Alliance@IBM, said that "just about every division at every location is being impacted." On the IBM Employee's Union website, a number of axed employees have chimed in, expressing disappointment in the layoffs and annoyance that "While they are firing in U.S., they are hiring in India."

One poster from Austin said, "More than 30 percent cut in (GBPSAS) Global Business Partner Systems/Application Services (Austin). Her Director was told to go to commercial account. 35 percent cut in IBM Systems & Technology Group, Enterprise Systems & Technology Development eServer CEC Bringup and Integration (Austin). 40 percent cut in GFW IBM (Austin)."

Read more: http://www.zdnet.com/ibm-employee-axe-cuts-away-1300-staff-7000016785/

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IBM employee axe cuts away 1,300 staff (Original Post) OhioChick Jun 2013 OP
And who wants to bet the ages of everyone fired will be from 54-64? reformist2 Jun 2013 #1
No, IBM ended pensions in 1999. Only those who got out before sinkingfeeling Jun 2013 #4
Ah, the 401K, the "pension" that's really just a savings account. reformist2 Jun 2013 #5
You're welcome. I retired (with a pension) in 2003. But the corporation sinkingfeeling Jun 2013 #6
they do contribute 10% of your salary DesertFlower Jun 2013 #17
Only if you're still employed by them on Dec. 31 of each year. sinkingfeeling Jun 2013 #20
it went into my husband's paycheck DesertFlower Jun 2013 #21
Used to, not now. sgsmith Jun 2013 #22
when we found out my husband was terminal in 4/12 DesertFlower Jun 2013 #24
IBM changed the plan...you now have to be employed until Dec. 15 to get the match antigop Jun 2013 #23
"While they are firing in U.S., they are hiring in India." DainBramaged Jun 2013 #2
Welcome to IBM in Bhopal Botany Jun 2013 #9
222 people in marketing. Sales rep/'sales calls' jobs go extinct. Sunlei Jun 2013 #3
my husband was with IBM for almost 43 years until DesertFlower Jun 2013 #7
they're laying off because of a desperate shortage of workers markiv Jun 2013 #8
+1 Baitball Blogger Jun 2013 #10
+1000. nt antigop Jun 2013 #13
I am certain that will be the headline tomorrow. n/t ChromeFoundry Jun 2013 #15
If you go to IBM India website... SummerSnow Jun 2013 #11
"outsourcing will continue"....DLC/Third Way Hillary said so. antigop Jun 2013 #12
This was the reason I supported O, for all the good that has done. n/t davidwparker Jun 2013 #14
Here come the H-1B's n/t aggiesal Jun 2013 #16
And how much is the CEO of IBM making this quarter? Initech Jun 2013 #18
I've known several people in Tucson zeeland Jun 2013 #19
Ex-CEO Palmisano --- retirement package antigop Jun 2013 #25

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
1. And who wants to bet the ages of everyone fired will be from 54-64?
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 10:37 AM
Jun 2013

I hear IBM offers nice pensions, that is, if you can make it to retirement...

sinkingfeeling

(51,460 posts)
4. No, IBM ended pensions in 1999. Only those who got out before
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 10:42 AM
Jun 2013

the 'conversion to defined-contribution (401K) plans' have pensions.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
5. Ah, the 401K, the "pension" that's really just a savings account.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 10:46 AM
Jun 2013

I actually didn't know that. So thanks for the correction!

sinkingfeeling

(51,460 posts)
6. You're welcome. I retired (with a pension) in 2003. But the corporation
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 10:48 AM
Jun 2013

made changes to the calculations in 1991 and 1994 that reduced what I get by about 20% of what I was promised.

DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
21. it went into my husband's paycheck
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:43 PM
Jun 2013

twice a month. really made it grow inasmuch as we were putting the max of $21,000 a year in.

 

sgsmith

(398 posts)
22. Used to, not now.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 05:00 PM
Jun 2013

In 2012, IBM decided to change how they paid out matching 401(k) funds. Used to be, an employees account would be credited per pay period (ie twice a month). Now, they've changed to an end of year employment status (Dec. 14) for an end of year (Dec. 31) matching payment. If you've left IBM for any reason other than retirement before Dec 15, the company will not pay any matching 401(k) money.

So, if you're a part of the RA, bye-bye 2013 401(k) money. If they sold your work division to another company, bye-bye 401(k). I'm not sure, but if you were on leave of absence on Dec 14, bye-bye 401(k). Probably the same for other short term disability programs like maternity leave.

IBM really put the knife to their current employees with the 401(K) match decision.

DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
24. when we found out my husband was terminal in 4/12
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 05:47 PM
Jun 2013

we got him retired. one of the reasons was if he died before he was retired i would get 50% of his pension. you could only make the decision for your spouse to get more when you retired. because he had a brain tumor it all had to be done with my power of attorney. i also got his full 401k. his last paycheck was 4/30/12.

antigop

(12,778 posts)
23. IBM changed the plan...you now have to be employed until Dec. 15 to get the match
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 05:01 PM
Jun 2013
http://www.forbes.com/sites/edwardsiedle/2012/12/18/ibm-leader-in-gutting-401ks/

Recently IBM, often considered a trendsetter for employee benefits, notified workers that starting next year it is changing the timing of the IBM match and automatic contribution from semi-monthly to an annual lump-sum contribution at the end of the year. IBM noted that “the percentage of the IBM match and automatic contribution workers receive – which makes IBM’s 401(k) plans among the best in the industry – is not changing.”


http://business.time.com/2012/12/13/why-your-401k-match-will-get-cut/

Beginning next year, IBM will delay 401(k) matching contributions until Dec. 31. On that date, it will deposit a lump sum in the account of those who were in the plan and working at the company as of Dec. 15. Workers leaving the company before that date will get no match, including any workers who may have been fired, say, on Dec. 14. The one exception is for those who formally retire. They will get a full match.


DainBramaged

(39,191 posts)
2. "While they are firing in U.S., they are hiring in India."
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 10:41 AM
Jun 2013

Of course, why pay a living wage here when you can pay peanuts there

DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
7. my husband was with IBM for almost 43 years until
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 10:57 AM
Jun 2013

he passed last year. the bean counters were trying to get rid of him for years, but couldn't because he had a special skill. every time they tried management spoke up and said "we need this guy". we saw the changes in IBM over the years -- the benefits changed -- raises became almost non-existent unless you were a top performer and even then it was only 1 or 1/4%. fortunately because of his years of service he was under the old pension plan, which i am now collecting.

 

markiv

(1,489 posts)
8. they're laying off because of a desperate shortage of workers
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 10:57 AM
Jun 2013

that's why we must increase h-1b visas

antigop

(12,778 posts)
12. "outsourcing will continue"....DLC/Third Way Hillary said so.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 11:38 AM
Jun 2013
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/07/AR2007090702780.html

When Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton flew to New Delhi to meet with Indian business leaders in 2005, she offered a blunt assessment of the loss of American jobs across the Pacific. "There is no way to legislate against reality," she declared. "Outsourcing will continue. . . . We are not against all outsourcing; we are not in favor of putting up fences."


So which outsourcing IS she against? And who is "we"? The DLC/Third Way/Corporate Dems?

zeeland

(247 posts)
19. I've known several people in Tucson
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 03:41 PM
Jun 2013

and Mn. that worked for IBM going back to the 70's. Each one of them lived in constant fear of losing
their jobs. I don't know what the culture is there, but it's no way to live.

antigop

(12,778 posts)
25. Ex-CEO Palmisano --- retirement package
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 11:23 AM
Jun 2013
http://www.cnbc.com/id/100565278

Samuel Palmisano retired in December as the chairman of IBM, but that's not stopping the company from paying more than $1 million to set him up with a new office and company cars.

In an IBM proxy statement dated March 11, the company said it spent $1,033,138 for "personal use of Company autos, retirement items, office payments and administrative support, including space renovation" for the former CEO.

Office space renovation? Yep.

Turns out, IBM treats former executives extremely well. Company spokesman Edward Barbini said the funds were spent to "establish an office for a former CEO off of the IBM campus." He would not say where the office is located or why it cost about a million dollars to staff and renovate. "I have nothing further to say on it," Barbini said.
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