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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 05:03 AM Jun 2013

Military plans would put women in most combat jobs

Source: Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Military leaders are ready to begin tearing down the remaining walls that have prevented women from holding thousands of combat and special operations jobs near the front lines.

Under details of the plans obtained by The Associated Press, women could start training as Army Rangers by mid-2015 and as Navy SEALs a year later.

The military services have mapped out a schedule that also will include reviewing and possibly changing the physical and mental standards that men and women will have to meet in order to quality for certain infantry, armor, commando and other front-line positions across the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines. Under the plans to be introduced Tuesday, there would be one common standard for men and women for each job.

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel reviewed the plans and has ordered the services to move ahead.

Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_WOMEN_IN_COMBAT?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-06-18-03-21-57

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Military plans would put women in most combat jobs (Original Post) dipsydoodle Jun 2013 OP
The transition is going to be made... Pelican Jun 2013 #1
If they can meet the standard, let 'em in. If they can't or can't in sufficient numbers Ex Lurker Jun 2013 #3
The standards will change... Pelican Jun 2013 #7
Great news for women Franker65 Jun 2013 #2
So when will women have to register for Selective Service? (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #4
just making sure you served Skittles Jun 2013 #14
This thread would be burning up in General Discussion Ex Lurker Jun 2013 #5
Cross post it if you wish. dipsydoodle Jun 2013 #6
i say replace our entire military with women if they can recruit them galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #8
I don't mind....... avogadro Jun 2013 #9
Aren't you so cute. "you go girl"? uppityperson Jun 2013 #10
Hey uppity....... avogadro Jun 2013 #12
And those wimmens need protecting since they are fragile flowers. Gotcha. As I said. uppityperson Jun 2013 #13
More fodder for the cannon... Earth_First Jun 2013 #11
 

Pelican

(1,156 posts)
1. The transition is going to be made...
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 05:14 AM
Jun 2013

It will be a more difficult one than racial integration or the end of DADT.

The best and smoothest way to make this go forward will be to keep the same standards in place and allow women to participate if they can meet them.

Ex Lurker

(3,815 posts)
3. If they can meet the standard, let 'em in. If they can't or can't in sufficient numbers
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 07:35 AM
Jun 2013

to reach numerical goals...that's where it will get interesting. Will standards be lowered, or will pressure be exerted to pass candidates who shouldn't be passed? We'll see. When the training (speaking of SOF) is beyond the capability of the vast majority of males, I'm not sure it's realistic to expect many females to make it. There are probably some who can. That number is probably exceedingly rare.

 

Pelican

(1,156 posts)
7. The standards will change...
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 09:21 AM
Jun 2013

... and likely be lower but also include as many wazoo new exercises so that it is difficult to compare.

In the end though it is very difficult to get past the pushup, run and ruck.

Franker65

(299 posts)
2. Great news for women
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 06:09 AM
Jun 2013

Some women really want a serious career in the infrantry. Entry to the special forces will give them something great to aspire to. Good news.

 

galileoreloaded

(2,571 posts)
8. i say replace our entire military with women if they can recruit them
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 09:53 AM
Jun 2013

im tired of the subjugation of men to militaristic purposes.

avogadro

(24 posts)
9. I don't mind.......
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 11:13 AM
Jun 2013

if they allow women to serve in combat, as long as they don't lower the physical standards which are already in place. If she is ok with taking a dump in a coffee can while hunkered down in a foxhole, in front of other soldiers, more power to her. You go girl!

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
10. Aren't you so cute. "you go girl"?
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 11:54 AM
Jun 2013

Lowering physical standards which include excreting in front of others and finishing with "you go girl"?

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
11. More fodder for the cannon...
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 12:01 PM
Jun 2013

Unfortunately for these women our warlords take this as a strategic advantage to blostering combat-ready troops rather than genuine regard for the advancement of women in general.

I long for the day when we draw down our combat-ready troops period. Regardless of gender.

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