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alp227

(32,030 posts)
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 02:23 PM Jun 2013

Senator: IRS to pay $70M in employee bonuses

Source: AP

The Internal Revenue Service is about to pay $70 million in employee bonuses despite an Obama administration directive to cancel discretionary bonuses because of automatic spending cuts enacted this year, according to a GOP senator.

Sen. Chuck Grassley of Iowa says his office has learned that the IRS is executing an agreement with the employees' union on Wednesday to pay the bonuses. Grassley says the bonuses should be canceled under an April directive from the White House budget office.

The directive was written by Danny Werfel, a former budget official who has since been appointed acting IRS commissioner.

"The IRS always claims to be short on resources," Grassley said. "But it appears to have $70 million for union bonuses. And it appears to be making an extra effort to give the bonuses despite opportunities to renegotiate with the union and federal instruction to cease discretionary bonuses during sequestration."

Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/gop-senator-irs-pay-70m-employee-bonuses

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Senator: IRS to pay $70M in employee bonuses (Original Post) alp227 Jun 2013 OP
If these are bounties for the "capture" of tax cheats, then leave them alone. McCamy Taylor Jun 2013 #1
This is just as bad as CEO's getting millions in bonuses for screwing the people over... HeroInAHalfShell Jun 2013 #2
Bullshit. The IRS has 90,000 employees and this is due to a collective bargaining agreement. phleshdef Jun 2013 #8
so every employee gets a 77K bonus? HeroInAHalfShell Jun 2013 #9
77k? Shouldnt that be roughly $777 per employee? cstanleytech Jun 2013 #14
oops.. my bad. thats what happens when I do 5 things at once.. HeroInAHalfShell Jun 2013 #16
You don't do math very well, do you? Assuming $70 million split evenly among 90,000 employees . . hatrack Jun 2013 #18
thanks for being the second person to point that out captain obvious. HeroInAHalfShell Jun 2013 #20
Good thing YOU don't work for the IRS. These employees are hard working people. I recall when the politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2013 #26
I think everyone deserves a bonus if its written in your CONTRACT. HeroInAHalfShell Jun 2013 #27
+1 TexasTowelie Jun 2013 #28
the important lesson is that if you screw them, the best ones can go work for the private sector CreekDog Jun 2013 #30
Not even remotely theoretically close. hatrack Jun 2013 #13
Fuck you, chuck. onehandle Jun 2013 #3
Chuck just wants to give that money to millionaires so they'll louis-t Jun 2013 #4
Sorry bud, that's a contract. MrSlayer Jun 2013 #5
Well isn't the argument for huge CEO bonuses that it is in their contract? HeroInAHalfShell Jun 2013 #10
If it's part of the collective bargaining agreement, I'm not closeupready Jun 2013 #6
you're fine with CEO's getting bonuses when its in their contract, right? HeroInAHalfShell Jun 2013 #12
What part of "collective bargaining agreement" was unclear? closeupready Jun 2013 #15
what part of "it says it in the contract" was unclear with CEO bonuses? HeroInAHalfShell Jun 2013 #17
Oh, I see. I'm not playing games with 58 post members closeupready Jun 2013 #21
what a waste of a response. whats the point of telling me im going on your ignore list? HeroInAHalfShell Jun 2013 #23
More union bashing from Grassley. Mass Jun 2013 #7
And from our new friend, with 59 posts . . . hatrack Jun 2013 #19
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner, folks! closeupready Jun 2013 #22
hahaha omg. HeroInAHalfShell Jun 2013 #25
I have a name you know.... HeroInAHalfShell Jun 2013 #24
You have several: "Look at ME Look at ME!!" is one. Another is "Ignore", another is "goodbye" hatrack Jun 2013 #31
Goodbye. N/t HeroInAHalfShell Jun 2013 #32
If it is in their contract to get these bonuses then I am fine with CEO's getting bonuses HeroInAHalfShell Jun 2013 #11
The difference is that the IRS employees perform a service that is of benefit to all Americans TexasTowelie Jun 2013 #29

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
1. If these are bounties for the "capture" of tax cheats, then leave them alone.
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 02:26 PM
Jun 2013

If not, then yeah, maybe they should cut back.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
8. Bullshit. The IRS has 90,000 employees and this is due to a collective bargaining agreement.
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 03:00 PM
Jun 2013

Take your anti-public worker BS elsewhere.

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
18. You don't do math very well, do you? Assuming $70 million split evenly among 90,000 employees . .
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 03:19 PM
Jun 2013

That works out to less than $800/employee.

But hey, thanks for playing.

 

HeroInAHalfShell

(330 posts)
20. thanks for being the second person to point that out captain obvious.
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 03:20 PM
Jun 2013

did you read where I said my bad?


thanks for your concern. not.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
26. Good thing YOU don't work for the IRS. These employees are hard working people. I recall when the
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 03:26 PM
Jun 2013

Wall St. execs blew up the nation's economy and still wanted their millions in bonuses and they were a helluva lot more than an average $777 per person. Couple that with the fact that federal workers have not received a pay increase in more than 3 years, I think they deserve it. Cut the union bull crap until you've walked a mile in these people's shoes.

 

HeroInAHalfShell

(330 posts)
27. I think everyone deserves a bonus if its written in your CONTRACT.
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 03:28 PM
Jun 2013

You don't think the IRS has hurt hard working Americans? I wouldn't call all these employees hard working..


So you think these people deserve it but no one else?

TexasTowelie

(112,243 posts)
28. +1
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 03:38 PM
Jun 2013

I have a friend from college that started working for the IRS after graduation. Public servants work hard to serve the public and considering that he brings in $16 for every dollar of his salary, I won't begrudge him getting a bonus since there haven't been pay raises in a few years. They have expenses and bills to pay just like every other American and should not be treated as second-class citizens.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
30. the important lesson is that if you screw them, the best ones can go work for the private sector
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 04:27 PM
Jun 2013

and use all their knowledge to help the private sector legally avoid tax enforcement.

so i urge you, cheap out, make it bad for them, make them miserable.

do your worst!

in the end your efforts will be rewarded in kind and we all will pay more.

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
13. Not even remotely theoretically close.
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 03:17 PM
Jun 2013

Remember 2008? Remember the wrecked economy? Remember the hundreds of thousands of job losses every month?

Remember how officers of Wall Street's big firms voted themselves & their employees more than $20 billion in bonuses for their outstanding work that year, after getting $700 billion in taxpayer support for their bad bets?

And now you're going to get all bent out of shape over roughly 1/300th of the same amount going to employees of one of the few remaining government agencies capable of any enforcement on the same crooks & their tax dodging tactics?

Whatthefuckever.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
3. Fuck you, chuck.
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 02:33 PM
Jun 2013

Your ilk hates unions. Hates the IRS. Hates non-millionaires.

Don't be so transparent, asshole.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
5. Sorry bud, that's a contract.
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 02:40 PM
Jun 2013

You have to honor your contracts. All this is, is anti-union bullshit talk. Pay the employees what was promised, asshole.

Spread it over the thousands of workers and it works out to what per person? Not a whole lot. Certainly nowhere near the bloated bonuses the Wall Street thieves got on taxpayer money.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
6. If it's part of the collective bargaining agreement, I'm not
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 02:42 PM
Jun 2013

interested in Grassley's disdain. The two parties agreed, and that's that.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
21. Oh, I see. I'm not playing games with 58 post members
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 03:22 PM
Jun 2013

who come here to DU to disrupt. Off to ignore with you.

 

HeroInAHalfShell

(330 posts)
23. what a waste of a response. whats the point of telling me im going on your ignore list?
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 03:24 PM
Jun 2013

you need to feel good about putting someone on your ignore list, do you feel better now that I know?


w/e ignore me. I wont lose any sleep over it. BYE!!!!

 

HeroInAHalfShell

(330 posts)
11. If it is in their contract to get these bonuses then I am fine with CEO's getting bonuses
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 03:15 PM
Jun 2013

that were written in their contracts.


TexasTowelie

(112,243 posts)
29. The difference is that the IRS employees perform a service that is of benefit to all Americans
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 03:46 PM
Jun 2013

so that we can have a government that provides for our national defense, infrastructure and meet the social contracts made with our citizens. The CEOs perform a service that enriches only themselves and a few shareholders while screwing the employees within their control with inadequate wages, unpaid work (I was a salaried employee so I can testify to that) and declining benefits with no appreciation of the contributions those employees make so that they can profit off of exploited labor.

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